2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Idk i look at it this way. These two teams have had this going on for awhile so the officials and league are already on alert. So the players involved had to know this going into the game. It’s about the 3rd incident. I’d suspend Lattimore, Evans, Mayes (threw a punch) and even fournette for shoving Lattimore which escalated a retaliation and Evans to come flying in. my issue is this since Lattimore isn’t getting suspend, I easily see he’s going to stir the pot again next meeting cause his punishment was a slap on the wrist. And you are gonna have something like this again. If you suspend those involved now it’s more likely to stop cause players don’t want to lose game checks 

No doubt. There’s always going to be players that stir the pot with words and antics (same with the blog). It’s always going to be part of their game and the opposing team needs to keep their composure 

10 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I get your point but Evans was the one who came off the sideline and really escalated the situation. They want to set the precedent that the player(s) who do this will receive the harshest punishment. Think they got it right. 

Now if you think Lattimore should have been suspended a game and Evans 2 games. That I could get behind 

Like you said, they have to set a precedent. It's why they came down on Ridley so hard for placing bets. They make an example out of these guys so no one else does it again. The fact that Evans came off the sideline is why he got suspended. 

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

He's in for a shock when we're down multiple scores and he really hears the place 'on fire'

It takes a genius to punch somebody in the face when he's wearing a helmet.

13 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Wait.  So we’re defending the guy who hired a coach whom he doesn’t trust to do his job or blaming that coach that he hired?   
 

 

Are we discussing doug? Doug was ok his first year and great his second year. In 2016 when we had suspensions and injuries i thought developing wentz was the most important thing he had to do and he did that. I thought doug didn’t do a great job as his tenure moved along especially most of 2019 and 2020. By the end of 2020 i thought he either really just didn’t want to be here and/or his scheme became predictable. Plus wentz has regressed and was awful. And we had the FO and players leaking a ton of stories.

Before the season i said the jags are going to be better than we think. They aren’t going to be a 9-10 win team but they can get to 5-7 wins. That division is not very good. I thought the colts would win it but i thought it was at like 9 wins. I think foles is going to replace Ryan at some point. Also their oline has issues along with their defense had the same issue yesterday that they had last time in Jacksonville. Lawrence started 13-14 in the last game of the 2021 season. He was 12-13 to start this game. Imo the titans have mediocre weapons besides Henry. And a little concerned about Henry accumulation of carries over the years. The Texans are a bad football team that plays hard. I said jokingly yesterday the jags could win that division at 6-11. I think someone gets to 7 or 8 wins. But i wouldn’t be shocked if someone wins it at 8-9 or 7-10 

6 hours ago, Estasi said:

This is true. How are ya? 

Doing good, I'm glad to see you sign up. Were you aware of what happened with the old EMB and that this is a new EMB and everything that went on to make us the new EMB? Also, if you want your old stats back (post count and likes), I'll add them to your account here. 

3 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

No doubt. There’s always going to be players that stir the pot with words and antics (same with the blog). It’s always going to be part of their game and the opposing team needs to keep their composure 

True. However the situations keep escalating. The two biggest culprits that continue to drive this and escalate situations between these teams is Lattimore and Evans. Why i suspend both. These are both repeat offenders and catalysts for the situation continuing to get out of hand 

47 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

 No doubt they won a SB. Duh. Point is, If they don’t trust a Head Coach to do his job, then they’re not doing it right.  You get that…right?  You think that model is replicable?   Honestly.  

 

Come on man.  We all know it was an anomaly.  

Is Tom Brady replicable for Bellicihik?  It worked for us for once.  Howie brought in Schwartz, made Doug keep Stoutland etc.  It was a series of right moves.  I'm very critical of Howie at times but that all worked.  Very little is sustainable over the long term in sports.

15 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Seems like a mixed message from the bookends.

4 minutes ago, justrelax said:

It takes a genius to punch somebody in the face when he's wearing a helmet.

Nobody said football players were smart.

24 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Multiple years is the exact benchmark that needs to be discussed in terms of long term commitment and the salary cap.   Hurts is eligible to be extended after this season.  Is it a good idea to do so?   Right now, I'd say that the team should be in no rush.  

 

The thing that troubled me about the game against Detroit was the frequency with which the game plan called for Hurts to run as a play design.  That indicates to me that the coaches have no interest in really evolving his game past a certain point, and they think that the running piece of his game will always be the go to.   I can't remember Reid calling more than a handful of QB draws (in very specific situations, usually at the goal line) with McNabb in the early years.   McNabb ran as a scrambler, but not as a 'ball carrier'.  To me, the long term risk of asking your QB to do that outweighs the short term gains... unless you have no interest in long term investment in that QB.  In that case, it is all about the now and tomorrow doesn't matter because they plan to find someone else for the future.   (Which is why college QBs run so much, IMO.  The college coach doesn't have to worry about wear and tear on their 20 year old stud QB... because in 2 or 3 years, he's gone anyway, and they will have to find another one.   Maybe that is the trend in the NFL... and given the price of QBs these days... it might not be the craziest idea out there.   Draft a QB, run him for 4 years, do what you can on their rookie deal, and then let them go get huge money elsewhere, and repeat.  Spend the money on the less expensive pieces, relatively, and let them carry him a bit more.  🤷‍♂️ )

I guess Sirianni wasn’t lying in his opening press conference that he’ll run the Wing T if that gives him the best option to win 

8 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Useless hype.   They have a home opener every season.  This is no different.  

Source?

1 minute ago, 315Eagles said:

Nobody said football players were smart.

Almost all of them are college graduates. 

29 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Multiple years is the exact benchmark that needs to be discussed in terms of long term commitment and the salary cap.   Hurts is eligible to be extended after this season.  Is it a good idea to do so?   Right now, I'd say that the team should be in no rush.  

 

I totally agree I'm in no rush to re-sign Hurts and I agree with your other points. That said it seems like there are people here who have angst that if they aren't constantly saying something bad about Hurts that it will lead the Eagles to re-sign him immediately to a huge contract 😂😂

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I guess Sirianni wasn’t lying in his opening press conference that he’ll run the Wing T if that gives him the best option to win 

Source?

No, it's "Link?"...

5 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I totally agree I'm in no rush to re-sign Hurts and I agree with your other points. That said it seems like there are people here who have angst that if they aren't constantly saying something bad about Hurts that it will lead the Eagles to re-sign him immediately to a huge contract 😂😂

I know, the Hurts discussion is exhausting. 

That being said, I don’t see a scenario (right now) where Hurts is re-signed. Either he won’t play well and they’ll move on or he’ll play well enough to want to extend but not enough to warrant $35-$45/mill per year. Couldn’t blame him for expecting that and definitely wouldn’t blame the Eagles for not giving him high end QB $. 

Just my meaningless opinion.

1 hour ago, Texas Eagle said:

We will learn a lot about this years Eagles team tonight. Are we simply a team that makes the playoffs in a weak division or are we in the conversation for top 5 NFC teams? 

Top 5? NFC is kinda weak so maybe but I doubt it. As you say, tonight will be indicative. When they almost lost to the Lions I was pretty doubtful but it turns out the Lions may no longer be the butt of jokes.

Which player will get our irrational rage after Hurts is gone?

1 minute ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

Which player will get our irrational rage after Hurts is gone?

Whoever is starting at QB

4 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

Which player will get our irrational rage after Hurts is gone?

Ian Book

4 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I know, the Hurts discussion is exhausting. 

That being said, I don’t see a scenario (right now) where Hurts is re-signed. Either he won’t play well and they’ll move on or he’ll play well enough to want to extend but not enough to warrant $35-$45/mill per year. Couldn’t blame him for expecting that and definitely wouldn’t blame the Eagles for not giving him high end QB $. 

Just my meaningless opinion.

I have a bad feeling he knows his worth and would accept $25-27 million per year just to remain a starter, somewhere. 

Just now, The Blackfish said:

I have a bad feeling he knows his worth and would accept $25-27 million per year just to remain a starter, somewhere. 

It’s more so the agent who presses more in negotiations. The big hang up right now with some other guys like Lamar is the guaranteed money portion of the contract. Watson blew the roof off with $230 million guaranteed but guys like Murray and Wilson took less because that was an outlier deal. I’m guessing Lamar wants something close to that and Baltimore isn’t budging because they don’t feel they need to make a bone-headed deal like Cleveland did. 

18 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

Almost all of them are college graduates. 

So you'd think they'd know not to punch another person when they have a helmet on.

4 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

Ian Book

Should be easy pickings.

In three games, he played 168 offensive snaps and went 42-of-65 for 315 yards with two touchdowns, two interceptions and two lost fumbles.

8 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I know, the Hurts discussion is exhausting. 

That being said, I don’t see a scenario (right now) where Hurts is re-signed. Either he won’t play well and they’ll move on or he’ll play well enough to want to extend but not enough to warrant $35-$45/mill per year. Couldn’t blame him for expecting that and definitely wouldn’t blame the Eagles for not giving him high end QB $. 

Just my meaningless opinion.

I don't think they'll lock into him for a long time barring a real leap this season that no one here expects. They could give him more money next year in an interim type deal.  So many variables now. I think beyond his play a lot will depend on Howie's confidence in getting another QB.  If it's going to take 3 1's to get the 3rd best QB in this draft then they might look at Hurts more favorably in the short run than say if the Saints have a top 5 pick for us.