Fantasy Football has it's place. Lots of people enjoy/participate. 

Also some bucks to be won and braggin rights...

Always a draw for the Fans in general. Stats, etc..

Just commenting on that telecast, so empty and generic.

They could do so much better... just need to try a little bit.

32 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The only thing worse than playing fantasy football is listening to people talk about fantasy football.

 

30 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I think what bothers me most about fantasy football is that over time -- and I'm talking decades -- people's perceptions about football change. They view the game only through the lens of fantasy football. Their evaluations about how good players are or aren't are based primarily on what kind of fantasy numbers they generate, rather than how good the player actually is.

Maybe so, but plenty of people before fantasy football only judged players on stats because they didn’t have access to watch most games. 

Fantasy football writers are some of the best analysts in the game, and it transcends fantasy football. 

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Maybe so, but plenty of people before fantasy football only judged players on stats because they didn’t have access to watch most games. 

Fantasy football writers are some of the best analysts in the game, and it transcends fantasy football. 

That may be true but not on the NFL show I just caught a bit of.

" Entertainment" ie. Programming, , not Analysis...

Will look to other sources...Thanks .

27 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Maybe so, but plenty of people before fantasy football only judged players on stats because they didn’t have access to watch most games. 

Fantasy football writers are some of the best analysts in the game, and it transcends fantasy football. 

100%. Marrying analytics and film study helps you understand the game and where production comes from.

Fantasy baseball is much better when it comes to applying practical analysis to the real game. The real intense players look at stuff like launch angles, barrel percent, spin rates,  park stats etc, which are things that are actually relevant to real baseball performance.  Fantasy football has some aspect of that sure but I feel like it rarely gets into the same level of applicable analysis. Do the running backs get volume? Do the receivers get targets? Are they getting a good D?  Most of the analysis for fantasy football is really just a variation of those 3 questions. 

But "production" doesn't always equal wins/losses and I think that was the point being made

The analysis of the game of football turns from "what wins football games" to "what generates statistics"

Most of the time they are analogous but as we all know that is not always the case.

 

Edit: and I say this as a fan of fantasy football, but I don't take it too seriously

3 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Sure it is no arguing there but QB is the most important position in professional sports.  The contract that's coming for Hurts is going to be substantial.  Do you want to pay a guy who averages 1 TD pass per game $40 million/year?

I do if he keeps winning. Wouldn’t you?

think I saw the story on this posted. Not sure if we saw the actual interview. Here it is. Funny.

 

32 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Fantasy baseball is much better when it comes to applying practical analysis to the real game. The real intense players look at stuff like launch angles, barrel percent, spin rates,  park stats etc, which are things that are actually relevant to real baseball performance.  Fantasy football has some aspect of that sure but I feel like it rarely gets into the same level of applicable analysis. Do the running backs get volume? Do the receivers get targets? Are they getting a good D?  Most of the analysis for fantasy football is really just a variation of those 3 questions. 

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

think I saw the story on this posted. Not sure if we saw the actual interview. Here it is. Funny.

 

It's cool he can laugh about it.

3 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Sure it is no arguing there but QB is the most important position in professional sports.  The contract that's coming for Hurts is going to be substantial.  Do you want to pay a guy who averages 1 TD pass per game $40 million/year?

I don’t evaluate a player based on what he is paid  … so, "on Sunday I don’t care.”

14 minutes ago, justrelax said:

I do if he keeps winning. Wouldn’t you?

 

9 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

"He keeps winning”?   Surely a pillar would know it’s a team game.  Yeah, he looked great the other night.  But they kept winning second half of last year, in spite of the QB.  You set a low bar.  Thank god you’re not a GM.  

I dont mind that he only threw 1 TD Monday night since he actually was throwing the ball well. 

I mind that he hasnt thrown TDs because he hasnt been able to throw the ball at an adequate level to be an NFL QB.

However, if he can continue to throw it like Monday night, more TDs should come.

 

Lets say they dont. Lets say he continues scoring 2 more rushing TDs than passing TDs (which sounds crazy and unlikely to happen). AND keeps winning games. So say playing that way, and winning that way is sustainable. Now the question becomes- is this sustainable for roster building reasons?

Is that going toe keep WRs happy. Will they be happy getting yards, and a few TDs, and playing on a winning team? Will that be enough to get WRs and TEs to want to come here to play with him?

If not, then you cant committ. Wins or not, you cant covet that style of play more than being able to build a talented roster on offense. If WRs dont want to play with him because he is a TD hog with his keepers then it'll be an issue. At some point we will begin to see negative effects in Wins column. As WRs leave and it is hard to get good ones to come, its going to leave the team worse off.

 

So- this is a wait and see thing. Can he keep up that level of play? Can he throw that well and actually throw more TDs? And if not, are his WRs going to get pissed seeing him keep it near the goal line all the time?

 

2 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I think what bothers me most about fantasy football is that over time -- and I'm talking decades -- people's perceptions about football change. They view the game only through the lens of fantasy football. Their evaluations about how good players are or aren't are based primarily on what kind of fantasy numbers they generate, rather than how good the player actually is.

Yes.

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Hey 

35 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Fantasy baseball is much better when it comes to applying practical analysis to the real game. The real intense players look at stuff like launch angles, barrel percent, spin rates,  park stats etc, which are things that are actually relevant to real baseball performance.  Fantasy football has some aspect of that sure but I feel like it rarely gets into the same level of applicable analysis. Do the running backs get volume? Do the receivers get targets? Are they getting a good D?  Most of the analysis for fantasy football is really just a variation of those 3 questions. 

There’s neutral passing scripts, pass funnel defenses, how defenses fair vs No. 1 or 2 WRs, players that get high-valued targets and defenses that allow those high values targets, where defenses are weak (beyond simply vs run or pass), defensive pressure rate vs OL pressure rate allowed), offensive pace, red zone defense, yards per route run vs man, yards per route run vs zone, defenses that allow the most receiving yards to running backs. It’s applicable to real football.

There’s so much good analysis out there that I think it’s a disservice to boil it all the way down to those three generic questions (even if at the heart of it, that’s true. It gets more into the why).

2 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

It’s no coincidence that the popularity of the NFL sky rocketed once fantasy became mainstream.  

Yeah... the NFL was hurting before that.  It was only the top draw back then... now... its still the top draw.

We are up to 4 players on the EMB draftkings contest. If you are thinking about it, dont be afraid to enter now. You can still edit your lineups leading up to kickoff tomorrow.

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Jump in now so you dont forget tomorrow.

If you arent in before tomorrows kickoff, you wont be able to jump in on Sunday. So GO DO IT!

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1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Did I say it was hurting?  Nope.  But there’s no denying it was elevated during that time.   You have a deep hatred for fantasy football and people talking about it.  What happened?  You’re amongst friends.  This is a sharing place.  We won’t judge.  

A lot of other factors came in at the same time as fantasy.   The betting also became much easier and wide spread.  

 

What happened?  The answer is simple:  I couldn't care less about another person's fantasy team.     I don't care who scores for the Eagles.  I want the Eagles to score.  I don't care who you want to put at your third flex position or whatever.  

An offering for everyone.   Confess... has this ever been you?   

 

This has been me.     MNF... Tom Hutton botched snap on a gimme FG against Dallas.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

An offering for everyone.   Confess... has this ever been you?   

 

This has been me.     MNF... Tom Hutton botched snap on a gimme FG against Dallas.

Me currently watching the Phillies. 

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Fantasy became popular in the early to mid 90’s. Long before betting was as accessible.  I had a bookie in Maryland when I was single in the 2000’s.  Now I just play fantasy for free.   I have a good team.  I’ll PM you my line up.  Let me know what I should do.  Thanks.  

Yeah... I'm aware.   NCAA started to get more money too around the same time as more TV networks came online and started bidding for the rights against one another.  And no one has an NCAA fantasy team.

 

Anyway, moving on.  

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Shared a few days ago.  Why she have to do him like that.  Let the man be.  Damn.  
 

For the likes and to be trending.   And, because she actually cares more about her following than she does the man.  2 months and she's going to do that to him?   I hope he dumped her.  He deserves better.    And he deserves a better team than the Bears.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Seranthony has lost it.  F!!!

Yeah.  But if that’s his team I have nothing but respect for him, for sticking with them.  He’ll have his day.  
 

She’s a dumb B

No doubt.  I have a lot of friends from Cleveland.  They've been through a lot... but stick with the Browns.  It is the way it should be.   

I like fantasy for a few different reasons. Mostly bonding. Either getting together with friends I don’t see often for the draft or for doing it with my pops and having to explain to him every. year. how the draft works on a laptop. 

But I don’t talk about it to people outside the league. That’s just dumb. 

19 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Me currently watching the Phillies. 

If they get out of this inning only giving up 3 it will be a miracle