21 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Some perspective...

All we have is a four-game winning streak. 

There were 20 4+ game winning streaks last season.  (21 if you split the Chiefs 8-game streak in two.)

Bucs, Rams, Cowboys, Packers, and Bills each had two of these win streaks.

 

Still enjoying it.

Didn't know that. That's a little humbling

10 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Meh that offense is bad and Melvin has looked pretty bad. He should be opened but I wouldn't give up a lot for him. 

With Cordarelle Patterson hitting the IR I'd look at Tyler Allegeir if you need a RB. Won't be a year long thing probably but he has looked decent at least. 

Actually already have Allegeir. Took a late flyer on him in this 12-man PPR league as I thought Patterson might see more work as a WR than last year. Wasn't right, but it panned out anyway.

QB: Justin Herbert, Matthew Stafford

RB: Javonte Williams (now IR), Aaron Jones, Miles Sanders, Damien Harris, Tyler Allegeir

WR: Cooper Kupp, Brandin Cooks, Hunter Renfrow, Curtis Samuel, Treylon Burks

TE: Dallas Goedert, Gerald Everett

D/ST: Eagles

K: Jake Elliott

I'm gonna be 3-1 after tonight. Should still be okay even with Williams going down. I'm up 23 points with Kupp still to play versus the Rams D. Watch Kupp get hurt early and the Rams D score 3 TDs. 

Top options in FA: Mark Ingram, Raheem Mostert, Kenny Gainwell, Rex Burkhead, JD McKissic

Step 1: Superbowl

Step 2: Will Anderson

Step 3: 25 Superbowls in a row

34 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I think speed is overrated for a returner.  Brian Mitchell was never a 'fast' guy, but he was smart and he was fearless.  He looked for a seam and went N-S almost every time.  Great punt returners can just be those that are willing to run in the opposite direction as about 12 other dudes.  Mitchell always ran through arm tackles.  

I think there are multiple nuances to that responsibility.  On a KOR, it’s a linear sprint for the first 15 yards.  True speed helps ensure first contact is as far downfield as possible.  

Punt returns…decision making and ball security trump everything else.  Once you’ve got that covered, you want to have the vision (feeds back into decision making) to hit the right seam and the agility to make the first tackler miss.  None of that is pure speed.  Ultimately taking it to the house (ask Brian Mitchell about the NFCCG) does require that elite speed, but that’s just icing on the cake at that point.

So I’d agree it’s overrated…certainly not the first thing you look for.  But most of the truly elite returners have it.

Most top offenses are just unstoppable in big moments now.  On top of that, most elite play making WRs fit the mold of the elite PR’s from 20 years ago.  And these guys aren’t getting risked for injury on PR’s now.  So the talent pool for dangerous PR’s has been funneled to full time WRs.  And some of the top notch offenses are scoring whether they start at your 15 or theirs…in 30 seconds.

If we can just find someone that reliably catches the football and makes the right decision on letting it go (to avoid 20 yard swings in the wrong direction), then that’s good enough.  I’m just not certain Covey is even that guy.  On KOR, I’d honestly be fine with just starting at the 25 every single possession and never bringing one back.

By week 17 if things continue the way they are going theres a very good chance we would have the #1 seed already locked up by then...which means we probably dont play our starters vs the Saints for a full game.

1 minute ago, UndyTaker said:

By week 17 if things continue the way they are going theres a very good chance we would have the #1 seed already locked up by then...which means we probably dont play our starters vs the Saints for a full game.

Can lose to them 2-0 to complete the screwjob lol

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I think there are multiple nuances to that responsibility.  On a KOR, it’s a linear sprint for the first 15 yards.  True speed helps ensure first contact is as far downfield as possible.  

Punt returns…decision making and ball security trump everything else.  Once you’ve got that covered, you want to have the vision (feeds back into decision making) to hit the right seam and the agility to make the first tackler miss.  None of that is pure speed.  Ultimately taking it to the house (ask Brian Mitchell about the NFCCG) does require that elite speed, but that’s just icing on the cake at that point.

So I’d agree it’s overrated…certainly not the first thing you look for.  But most of the truly elite returners have it.

Most top offenses are just unstoppable in big moments now.  On top of that, most elite play making WRs fit the mold of the elite PR’s from 20 years ago.  And these guys aren’t getting risked for injury on PR’s now.  So the talent pool for dangerous PR’s has been funneled to full time WRs.  And some of the top notch offenses are scoring whether they start at your 15 or theirs…in 30 seconds.

If we can just find someone that reliably catches the football and makes the right decision on letting it go (to avoid 20 yard swings in the wrong direction), then that’s good enough.  I’m just not certain Covey is even that guy.  On KOR, I’d honestly be fine with just starting at the 25 every single possession and never bringing one back.

Somebody call Reno 911 🤣 

1 minute ago, St0nedsk8er said:

Somebody call Reno 911 🤣 

No gas left in the tank.

19 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

Just hit me that a 4-0 team as of today has the 3rd overall pick in the draft. And we don't need a QB. Will Anderson come on down!

 

11 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

 

Side note, if Barnett comes back healthy/normal and isnt too dumb that brings nice depth

I was Barnett’s biggest critic when we idiotically drafted him round 1.  Then I tepidly defended him last year when the hate really got turned up.  He makes his share of hustle plays and is pretty well rounded.  The problem is that he has no explosion off the line and isn’t very well built at all for a DL that can’t beat anyone with speed.  That’s only going to be worse now.  

DE’s #3 and #4, in a rotation, tend to be those fastballs that really tear upfield (throughout Eagles history, anyway).  Barnett is useful as insurance, but I wouldn’t be excited about rotating him.  

I think next year’s DE will rotation will feature Sweat, Graham (still), a very high draft pick, and Barnett competing with yet another addition for the 4th spot.  I’d like to see some Milton Williams on the edge, but it seems that’s not in the plans.

Seumalo related?

 

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I was Barnett’s biggest critic when we idiotically drafted him round 1.  Then I tepidly defended him last year when the hate really got turned up.  He makes his share of hustle plays and is pretty well rounded.  The problem is that he has no explosion off the line and isn’t very well built at all for a DL that can’t beat anyone with speed.  That’s only going to be worse now.  

DE’s #3 and #4, in a rotation, tend to be those fastballs that really tear upfield (throughout Eagles history, anyway).  Barnett is useful as insurance, but I wouldn’t be excited about rotating him.  

I think next year’s DE will rotation will feature Sweat, Graham (still), a very high draft pick, and Barnett competing with yet another addition for the 4th spot.  I’d like to see some Milton Williams on the edge, but it seems that’s not in the plans.

The Johnsons seem to fit into your paradigm of a rotational fastball.

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

The Johnsons seem to fit into your paradigm of a rotational fastball.

And that’s how they are being used…and I’m not sure Barnett is going to do any better.  Now, if a starter gets hurt and a backup needs to play 70% of the snaps, then I’d rather have Barnett.

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Although Dumber, and will probably take a dumb penatly, Barnett is better than Milton Williams. IMO. 

Hey man excited to see Kenny P yesterday? 

6 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I don't see a solution.  With Covey, I think we are just going to have to take what we get.  Sure handedness with a 5 yard return, before he gets blasted.   At punter... Siposs needs to work on some coffin corner stuff.  Just hitting it high and letting the gunners get under it isn't working at all.  A low line drive out of bounds at the 10 would be better... 

Sisposs was one of the leaders at punts inside the twenty last year. 

1 hour ago, justrelax said:

He was also a tank. 5’10”, 225. Outweighed Covey by more than 50 pounds.

Agreed.   IIRC... didn't he dislocate Gramatica's arm one time on a return where he just ran through him and Gramatica tried to grab him as he went by?

1 hour ago, Infam said:

Well, speed sure won’t hurt. That said King has the instincts and overview for sure.

Wouldn’t even be opposed to try that. 👍🏻

Maybe we should throw Mailata back there.   

5 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Although Dumber, and will probably take a dumb penatly, Barnett is better than Milton Williams. IMO. 

Of course he is.  I’m intrigued by Milton Williams entirely because of his very, very rare physical specs…specs that peg him as an unusual DT/DE tweener.  To maximize that potential, I think he needs to spend some time at DE.  He hasn’t shown a ton at DT and I’m sure that, right now, injury notwithstanding, Barnett is decisively better.  

18 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

 

Eh I was not on the Hurts thing at all. I was pissed about chasing Wentz out. He's taken a huge step this year. He looks outstanding. It can't be denied. 

1 minute ago, Uscg-green said:

Eh I was not on the Hurts thing at all. I was pissed about chasing Wentz out. He's taken a huge step this year. He looks outstanding. It can't be denied. 

Unloading Wentz was tricky.  He’s in the Josh Allen / Dante Culpepper talent level and physical mold, with one MVP caliber season on his resume to boot.  By the end of 2019, before the 2020 collapse, I had accepted the reality that he was just going to be one of those big arm, bad decision QBs, even if he found a way to stay healthy (which he has).

I'm seeing some stuff saying that Mailata's MRI came back and it's not good news.  Possible significant injury and he'll be out a bit.  Being reported on twitter by Jeff McLean.  

 

44 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

@HazletonEagle did you get to see any of Pacheco's runs last night? His contact balance is next level, very Kamara-like. 

 

Any college RBs this year with great contact balance off the top of your head? 

Impossible. 

Had the game on.  Wasn't watching closely. But I'm aware of Pachecos talents.

I just named 7 top RBs I like in this draft the other day.  But I haven't started breaking down specifics of who does what best.

I know Gibbs is very fast.  Chase Brown and Bijan are well rounded. Charbonnet is big, and well rounded. Tank is a strong runner. Not necessarily a big back build but big in the Buckhalter mold.

Didn't get much deeper than that yet in analysis. Nor have I begun trying to find hidden gems like Pacheco yet.

5 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

Eh I was not on the Hurts thing at all. I was pissed about chasing Wentz out. He's taken a huge step this year. He looks outstanding. It can't be denied. 

Yes but let's see more first.  I want to see consistency the whole year.  Every QB has a bad game or two, it happens.  I want them to contend with and beat the good teams, playoff teams before saying we have our QB.  

5 minutes ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

I'm seeing some stuff saying that Mailata's MRI came back and it's not good news.  Possible significant injury and he'll be out a bit.  Being reported on twitter by Jeff McLean.  

 

That's a fake account then. 

6 minutes ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

I'm seeing some stuff saying that Mailata's MRI came back and it's not good news.  Possible significant injury and he'll be out a bit.  Being reported on twitter by Jeff McLean.  

 

This is what he said. There is nothing out there about the MRI results yet. 

I can't figure out how to embed it, but perhaps just speculation.  

 

Jordan Mailata underwent an MRI on his shoulder this morn. Addition of another PS OL could suggest he’ll be out for a bit. Andre Dillard is still on IR, but he said he should he back "pretty soon.” The initial timetable for his return from a 9/1 broken arm was 4-6 weeks.