38 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Yes, I know that. And 50-some yards more than any of the running backs. He's the only running threat they have.

They arent winning because of his running. witness the ten tds

are they running rpo specifically to leverage his running? Doubt much if at all. Its not a compensation for a lack of passing. Its broken plays

24 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

I have a feeling Detroit will stick with Goff, but those other 6 teams will for sure look for a new QB high in the draft. Which is why if that Saints pick is as low as we think it could be, it will be prime trade bait for one of those 6 teams. I would be all for trading back to 12 or so, and picking up a 2nd and a 4th/5th in 2023 and another 1st in 2024 

Rather not get cute. Just take a stud unless someone offers a kings ransom

14 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I already mentioned I want the #1 pick because i'm not worried about this team going on the road, but....

#1 this year is probably going to be the best #1 since Luck in my opinion. 

Will Anderson is better than Bosa, Clowney ETC, AND!!! it's a heavy QB draft with a lot of teams needing a QB.

So you can go with Will Anderson, or sell that 1st overall pick for a MONSTER package. (nice)

Will Anderson isn’t going first overall unless both Stroud and Young just collapse this year. He’ll go after the first 2-3 QBs are taken. QBs always take precedent even if not as good as Anderson because QB needy teams are willing to give up far more for their franchise guy than a team would be for a DE. If there’s a QB worth a top 5 pick, he’s probably going first overall (especially with how many bad teams that need QBs we have right now). Only draft I can think of in recent history was with Trubisky that didn’t play out like that.

Whats likely is if we get 1st overall, we can trade it for multiple future firsts, move down to 3 or 4 and still get a crack at Anderson

 

6 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Rather not get cute. Just take a stud unless someone offers a kings ransom

I mean I wouldnt be mad at getting Jalen Carter and Isaiah Foskey in the same draft while also getting a 1st for next year....but then again the possibility of getting Will Anderson and another DE or DT at 32 would be nice too...idk im excited about the possibilities lol.

20 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

They arent winning because of his running. witness the ten tds

are they running rpo specifically to leverage his running? Doubt much if at all. Its not a compensation for a lack of passing. Its broken plays

Basically, they can’t run.

1 hour ago, Wentz_Era said:

She's actually the bread winner of the family.

I don't know but I think $375 million added to Brady's net worth probably would put him a little ahead.  Mostly my post was a joke. 

10 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Someone the other day mentioned the Giants’ throwbacks being the best uniform in football, or something like that. 

Everyone is playing for second place behind these bad boys. 

 

I'm shocked to hear it's been a decade since they've worn those.  It seemed like for a time the Tom Brady Pata were wearing those all the time.  Now that I think about it though that did seem to be during the Gronk and Hernandez days which was a long time ago now. 

14 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

I mean I wouldnt be mad at getting Jalen Carter and Isaiah Foskey in the same draft while also getting a 1st for next year....but then again the possibility of getting Will Anderson and another DE or DT at 32 would be nice too...idk im excited about the possibilities lol.

Murphy from clemson?

28 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

They arent winning because of his running. witness the ten tds

are they running rpo specifically to leverage his running? Doubt much if at all. Its not a compensation for a lack of passing. Its broken plays

Relevant to the discussion. 

35 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

They arent winning because of his running. witness the ten tds

are they running rpo specifically to leverage his running? Doubt much if at all. Its not a compensation for a lack of passing. Its broken plays

I haven't seen a bunch of their games, but I did watch their opener.   He was running a lot by design in that game and I criticized it.   They do run a good number of Read Options with him... far more than they should.  

17 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Basically, they can’t run.

And yet are a top team in the league

10 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Relevant to the discussion. 

Shown to be wrong for decades

betting on the outlier? Horrible strategy

34 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Is this the first year his contract is dump-friendly?

If it is, I think they move on from Goff, if it's not obviously stuck with him for one more year

If this year is proving anything for the Lions it's that they need more help on defense.  Imagine the opportunity to pair Will Anderson with Hutchinson?  Ooooweeee that's a pass rush. 

14 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Relevant to the discussion. 

But is it?  Is the 17 v Detroit an anomaly?  

11 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Relevant to the discussion. 

He used a lot of words, but never really addressed the elephant in the room... long term sustainability of this style due to the punishment Hurts takes.  The 'style of offense' is absolutely sustainable.  Most offenses are sustainable, assuming you have the personnel to execute it, so there's nothing truly revealed in that.   But, the hits that Hurts is accumulating are more frequent and of more intensity than the two guys that he was referencing... Jackson and Murray.  And there's no way to prove that it is actually sustainable. 

The Elephant:  What happens to Hurts' shoulders by mid-season, late-season after all the accumulated shots to his shoulders from putting his head down to try to run over defenders?  How will it affect his throwing motion, if at all, and how will that affect his accuracy, velocity, etc. when it matters more and when the weather is far less conducive to a passing attack?  

The elephant in the room remains unaddressed by that article.  It was a nice article and it had some nice illustrations, but completely glossed over the most important aspect of this whole discussion.

12 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Murphy from clemson?

I think Murphy, Nolan Smith, and Bryan Bresee will all be gone by the time 32 rolls around, but I could see Howie moving up to get one of those guys if they fall far enough. If we could add one of them with Will Anderson that would make the entire draft for me. I want a Dline that puts the fear of god into the rest of the NFCE and NFL for that matter. I hope we double down on DE and DT.

1 minute ago, UndyTaker said:

I think Murphy, Nolan Smith, and Bryan Bresee will all be gone by the time 32 rolls around, but I could see Howie moving up to get one of those guys if they fall far enough. If we could add one of them with Will Anderson that would make the entire draft for me. I want a Dline that puts the fear of god into the rest of the NFCE and NFL for that matter. I hope we double down on DE and DT.

depending on how many QBs get taken, Murphy is a potential top 5 pick right now. 

Couldn’t remember if this was posted. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Couldn’t remember if this was posted. 

Well earned.   He has shut me up.   

Come to think of it this Seattle vs Saints game is even bigger when it comes to the draft because Seattle also has 2 first round picks. If Seattle beats the Saints and that pick is lower than Seattle's then they would be an obvious trade partner. Seattle's pick will most likely be in the top 10 and the Denver pick they own wont be far behind them with the way they are looking....so what about trading the #5 back to the #10 and getting #14 with it.

1 minute ago, UndyTaker said:

Come to think of it this Seattle vs Saints game is even bigger when it comes to the draft because Seattle also has 2 first round picks. If Seattle beats the Saints and that pick is lower than Seattle's then they would be an obvious trade partner. Seattle's pick will most likely be in the top 10 and the Denver pick they own wont be far behind them with the way they are looking....so what about trading the #5 back to the #10 and getting #14 with it.

Let's address this in March.  .  But, we definitely need Seattle to win that game!   Go ugly birds!!!

44 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Relevant to the discussion. 

Good thing I didn't make some stupid bet about this. 

18 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Couldn’t remember if this was posted. 

He was very good all day.  He had the pressure on the Lawrence fumble when he tried to escape the pocket.  He played the run well too.  

30 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Wild of you to think the Lions would make the right decision lol

It's hard to argue that they don't have talent on offense.  I would think the better pick for them would be Jalen Carter vs. an edge rusher.  

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

It's hard to argue that they don't have talent on offense.  I would think the better pick for them would be Jalen Carter vs. an edge rusher.  

Detroit has options with 2 first round picks as well. I think a DT and a CB