3 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

Film watchers have been saying all year that Wilson is not seeing open receivers. He's struggling bad right now.

Also, how in the hell are the Broncos on primetime again next week? That's 4 times in the first 6 weeks. Dear lord.

 

Let Russ cook

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Maybe Russ didn’t want to go to him since it was the same concept as the goal line pick in the Super Bowl. PTSD and all that…

4 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Build a running team around running the ball with a RB, and we don't have to worry about how much punishment our QB is taking.  The current style certainly isn't the only option when it comes to running the football.  And there are ways to invest at WR without dropping yet another first round pick (or other super high draft pick) at WR.  JJAW... 2nd round, Reagor... 1st round, Smith... 1st round, Brown... 1st round pick AND $100M contract.  At some point the team needs to spend high draft picks at some other positions.  

I agree that moving away from the running QB strategy is an option. But then we are talking about taking away a big part of what makes Hurts special. If that’s the case, do you want to invest $50M a year or whatever it will cost to give Hurts a new contract?

That’s something we need to figure out, especially if we have a top 5 or 10 pick in the draft this year with an absolutely loaded QB group. Maybe it would be better to draft a rookie, keep that QB1 on a rookie deal, and then move Hurts for a couple first round picks. Crazy, I know, but why try to force a square peg in a round hole when you can get a guy who better fits your system, save tens of millions in cap space, and get a slew of draft capital. It’s an interesting thought excitement on opportunity cost.

But alternatively, if you think Hurts can transition into a more traditional pocket passer, then why take WR off the table? If you get a shot to draft someone you think can be a game changer, why pass that up? BPA should be our strategy, and if we move away from running the QB, then there will be more throwing attempts both by design and because the clock will stop more often resulting in more plays per game.

As far as money goes, a rookie WR would be on his rookie deal during Brown’s contract, and Brown would be gone when we need to give the rookie a second contract.

Yes, we need investment in youth across the board, but we have 2 firsts this year, and most of our mistakes at WR seem to come from trying to find a particular skill set instead of drafting BPA.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Let Russ cook

 

Welp, at least next Thursday night's game between the *checks notes* Bears vs Commanders couldn't possibly get worse right?

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Maybe Russ didn’t want to go to him since it was the same concept as the goal line pick in the Super Bowl. PTSD and all that…

I don’t get the broncos going away from the run on that 4th down and 1. They were averaging 6.5 yards per carry the last two drives. And the colts haven’t stopped the broncos from gaining at least one yard on the ground the entire 4th quarter. Add on Russ has been horrible especially in the red zone. 

4 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Welp, at least next Thursday night's game between the *checks notes* Bears vs Commanders couldn't possibly get worse right?

Don’t worry at least we get a good Monday night game next week…. Broncos vs. chargers 

6 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Welp, at least next Thursday night's game between the *checks notes* Bears vs Commanders couldn't possibly get worse right?

 

That was some bad football. It's a shame it didn't end in a tie. Both teams were that bad. No one deserved to win that one.

IND should be 0-5 and instead they’re 2-2-1?
 

Trailed the Texans 20-3 and got a tie out of it, they were dead against KC at 4th and 20+ until the referee makes one of the most awful taunting calls possible to give them the ball back, then this shambles of a win tonight.

Pretty sure the Giants would beat the Colts easily 

Actually, better for our draft scenario that the Colts won.

I personally don’t like OT in the regular season. Just end the game in a tie

24 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

IND should be 0-5 and instead they’re 2-2-1?
 

Trailed the Texans 20-3 and got a tie out of it, they were dead against KC at 4th and 20+ until the referee makes one of the most awful taunting calls possible to give them the ball back, then this shambles of a win tonight.

Pretty sure the Giants would beat the Colts easily 

I like Frank. I think he had more to do with the Birds SB than Doug. They are living in the football purgatory and this is the basis of most of the back and forth on this board for the past 6 months. Fear that the Birds would wind up there. As an Eagles fan, I feel a lot to be thankful for with Hurts progress as a QB and the overall balance of the team. I would say that our two shutdown CBs have had more of an impact than any other area of improvement this year. Sign Bradberry now. 

 

48 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Actually, better for our draft scenario that the Colts won.

How so

One more thought. Fifth time watching the Jags game. They had one of their best offensive player returning kicks. You have to play to win. Covey is a safety valve. The Birds need to take more risk with returns in terms of personnel. 

11 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

One more thought. Fifth time watching the Jags game. They had one of their best offensive player returning kicks. You have to play to win. Covey is a safety valve. The Birds need to take more risk with returns in terms of personnel. 

You don’t take "more risk” when you’re playing in the remnants of a hurricane. It was fn brutal out there. Playing it cautiously was the obvious choice.

16 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

You don’t take "more risk” when you’re playing in the remnants of a hurricane. It was fn brutal out there. Playing it cautiously was the obvious choice.

Agreed, I meant moving forward. 

54 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

How so

We should want all the bad teams other than NO to share wins amongst themselves.  It increases the chance of the Saints, if they collapse, falling bellow all of them.

Specifically, we are better off if all the other bad teams had 5 wins each instead of half having 3 and the other half having 7.

This my favorite non-eagle in the nfl. Mostly because he was their Devonta Smith consolation prize, but also because his career has been amazingly awful.

 

At least it seemed like Marcus Smith was trying. This is Danny Watkins level

7 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Eagles dodged a bullet with Wilson having no interest in coming here.  

Yeah I had no interest in him…not at his age anyway and certainly not for what they paid to get him

4 hours ago, Next_Up said:

One more thought. Fifth time watching the Jags game. They had one of their best offensive player returning kicks. You have to play to win. Covey is a safety valve. The Birds need to take more risk with returns in terms of personnel. 

Wish I had your free time. 

8 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Short term gains with the frequency they do things now.  I would love to see the number drop dramatically.  And his style of running change dramatically.  He doesn't need to try to run through multiple defenders to be a threat.  

I think the 'future' might be a middle ground between running Hurts at an historic rate and having him try to be a statue.  Number 1... he has to take on less defenders.  Get down, get out of bounds.  Live to play another day.

While we’re talking about the future, I’m just going to throw this out here…

The biggest problem with these college styled running QB systems is how much they put the QB at risk of injury. At the same time, their biggest strength is that they are relatively easy to install and find starting level players at QB that make the offense formidable. 

At some point, a team is going to realize you can save $50M a season AND have better QB depth AND avoid risking high first round picks on QBs if you just spam the QB position with mid round athletic guys. You can get someone like Hurts in the 2nd, Jackson in the late first, Malik Willis in the 3rd, etc. You could have all 3 for less than the price of those blockbuster moves teams have been doing recently, which has yielded mixed results. For every Mahomes or Allen there is a Trubisky or Darnold.

You use less draft capital to find a QB, so the rest of your team is stronger. You get more chances to find a solid QB, so your franchise isn’t likely to be left in ruins from one miss. You’re deeper at the position, so one injury doesn’t derail the season. I see a lot of advantages in this resource allocation switch, and it’s all about leveraging the strengths of a system you’ve already implemented.

I know… it’s a crazy idea to do to the QB position what has happened to the RB position. It goes against nearly a hundred years of NFL thought. But if the system allows for a lower threshold of QB to create a dynamic offense, something that isn’t as ethereal as mastering a complex offense and is instead based on an easily recognizable trait like physical athleticism, isn’t that the ultimate money ball approach?

In a league with a hard cap where teams that have their QB on rookie contracts have a massive advantage, some GM is eventually going to be crazy enough to try it. Go for guys like Hurts, Prescott, Willis. And go for a lot of them. One new QB in rounds 2-5 every year. And with a good coach, solid scouting, suddenly you have a massive advantage over the rest of the NFL.

9 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Imagine if we got Wilson, and signed Allen Robinson.

Some people might be happy because Howie would probably really get fired the way that season would play out.

Maybe.  Personally, I'd rather Howie prove me wrong than Howie prove me right.

The box score of last nights game is a national treasure. The QBs combined for 4 INTs, 10 sacks, and 3 fumbles. Lets ride.