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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - Still can't hit for crap

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I used an AI website to come up with a description of Trea Turner, this is hilarious, it is long but worth it

They call it the Trea Turner Decade, and it is spoken of only in hushed, funeral tones down in the 700 Level, where the whiskey flows like the Schuylkill after a storm and the pessimism is the only thing heavier than the humid Pennsylvania air. You sit in your seat—Section 307, Row 15, the same seat your grandfather warmed when Mike Schmidt was a god and not a memory—and you watch the Jumbotron flicker to life. The organ doesn’t play a triumphant charge anymore when the lineup appears. It plays a dirge. A requiem. And then there he is, batting second, playing shortstop, earning roughly thirty-seven thousand dollars per inning whether he produces or not.

Trea Turner. The $300 Million Millstone.

They sold you the dream back in the winter of ‘22, didn’t they? The speed. The bat-to-ball skills. The idea that you were signing a Ferrari when, in fact, you were handcuffing yourself to a rusted-out minivan with a busted transmission and eight years—*eight goddamn years*—remaining on the lease. The front office, those brilliant architects of despair, looked at the analytics, ignored the warning signs, and stapled the franchise to this man like a note pinned to a corpse. And now you’re trapped. You’re all trapped.

The mathematics of his incompetence is staggering. He is the human embodiment of the exclusive OR gate—**he can hit, OR he can field, but never both, and frequently neither.**

When the bat finds his shoulder with that high, tight stance that looks like he’s preparing to swat a fly with a canoe paddle, there is a brief, terrible window where the ball actually leaves the infield. For three glorious weeks in May, he’ll hit .340, spraying line drives into the gap, stealing bases with that deceptive speed that makes him look like he’s running underwater while everyone else is in quicksand. The city stirs. The radio hosts cautiously whisper that maybe he’s turned the corner. And then, as if possessed by a spirit of athletic malevolence, his glove transforms into a slab of granite.

You’ve seen it. The routine ground ball that eats him alive. The transfer from glove to hand that takes longer than a DMV visit. The throw—oh, Christ, the throw—that sails into the dugout or skips past the first baseman like a stone across a pond. He’ll botch three errors in a single inning, each one more creative than the last, a performance art piece titled The Impossibility of Competence. And the crowd—your crowd, the people who once booed Santa Claus and would do it again with relish—lets him have it. The booing doesn’t start as a ripple. It starts as a tsunami. It is a sound like tearing metal, a collective exhalation of pure, refined hatred that could power the city grid for a week.

But wait! He’ll make a diving stop the next night, a truly spectacular play that reminds you, cruelly, of what he’s supposed to be, and you’ll think, Maybe the defense is back. And that’s when the bat dies. He’ll go 0-for-4 with three punchouts, swinging at sliders in the dirt like he’s trying to excavate a grave for his own career. He’ll ground into double plays with the bases loaded and the game on the line, watching the pivot man at second base with the hollow, thousand-yard stare of a man who knows he is mathematically guaranteed $27 million annually until the heat death of the universe.

The clubhouse is a morgue. The young players—your prospects, your hope—walk on eggshells around him because he is the anointed albatross, the guy you can’t bench, can’t trade, and can’t release. DFA Trea Turner? The owner would sooner burn the stadium down for the insurance money. So he plays. Every day. He plays through the slumps, the yips, the throwing errors that have become so routine the official scorer just marks them as "E6—Trea” without looking up from his crossword puzzle. The manager sends him out there because the contract dictates it, because sunk cost fallacy isn’t a fallacy when it’s the size of the GDP of a small island nation.

And the fans—**everyone hates him.** Not the polite, Twitter-appropriate dislike. The real stuff. The vitriol. You see it in the signs held up behind home plate: TREA FOR FREE. TAKE HIM. PLEASE. You hear it in the chants that start in the fourth inning of every home game, rhythmic and biblical in their intensity: Over-rated! (Clap-clap-clapclapclap). You see it in the way the concession workers grimace when he strikes out looking, the way the beer sales spike in the bottom of the first when he’s due up, liquid courage needed to witness the ritual sacrifice of another rally.

The sports radio lines burn red-hot for hours after every game. The hosts don’t even pretend to analyze anymore. They just scream into the void, asking the same question every night: How do we get out of this? The answer is: you don’t. You have eight years left. Eight years of watching a shortstop who moves laterally like he’s wearing ski boots, who throws like he’s trying to hit a piñata blindfolded, who hits like he’s swinging a bag of doorknobs whenever the pressure exceeds a mild breeze. Eight years of watching the division rival Mets or Braves or Nationals (the Nationals, God, the irony) circle the bases on another error, another booted ball, another mental lapse that costs a game in September when the margins are thinner than the patience of the fanbase.

He is the ghost that haunts the infield dirt, the guaranteed money that laughs at the concept of "performance." He will be here when your children graduate high school. He will be here when the rookies of today become the veterans of tomorrow and retire, having known only the era of Trea. He is immovable, unbenchable, unwatchable, and yet—you will watch. You’ll watch because you’re a fan, because you’re trapped in the same prison of loyalty that binds you to this team, this city, this endless, Sisyphean cycle of sports agony.

You’ll sit in Section 307. You’ll drink your overpriced beer. You’ll watch him step into the box, adjust his gloves seventeen times, and pop out to the second baseman on the first pitch. You’ll watch him field a routine grounder, pause as if contemplating the meaning of life, and then launch the ball into the camera well. You’ll watch the scoreboard tick down the years, 8… 7… 6… knowing that there is no escape, no trade, no miracle release.

Only Trea. Only the contract. Only the endless, grinding, beautiful horror of baseball in Philadelphia, where even the fastest man on the field is running in place, and everyone hates him for it.

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1 hour ago, John Blutarski said:

Turner is Fn terrible. Amazing he was NL batting leader last year now hitting 220 almost halfway through the season. As mentioned it’s affecting the whole lineup including Schwarber.

I know the Phillies don’t wanna have a L, L, L a top of the lineup because teams later in the game will go to a left-handed pitcher. However, teams are gonna do that anyways cause Turner can’t hit left-handed or right handed pitching. So that’s gonna happen regardless.

So really you’re just giving Turner all these extra bats cause he’s a top of the lineup even though he doesn’t deserve them and he’s not good enough to warrant them. You’re better off just putting Brandon marsh at two or to lead off and get your three best hitters the most bats. It isn’t just that Harper‘s not hitting home runs, if you look since they made that move, his average has dropped as well.

Should really move that kid up to triple A and let him hit there for next month and a half before the deadline

12 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Should really move that kid up to triple A and let him hit there for next month and a half before the deadline

Yay, another leftie.

1 hour ago, vsptroops said:

Yay, another leftie.

It’s amazing how LH hitters have come to the forefront and can’t find enough good RH OF in the mlb.

Bohm being 2nd for 3b is amazing lol

Nice seeing the bottom of the order basically win this one.... Even though that's where turner should be

2 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Nice seeing the bottom of the order basically win this one.... Even though that's where turner should be

Nice to see Crawford get going. Turner has a wrist contusion so might not see him for a couple days

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Nice to see Crawford get going. Turner has a wrist contusion so might not see him for a couple days

Might be a good thing. Maybe it will give him a mental break

28 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The guy is just a great pitcher and all time great Phils FA signing. I was thinking about this last night when he got into trouble a bit with the walks and locating he managed to get out of it and not completely break down like a lot of pitchers would.

1 hour ago, John Blutarski said:

The guy is just a great pitcher and all time great Phils FA signing. I was thinking about this last night when he got into trouble a bit with the walks and locating he managed to get out of it and not completely break down like a lot of pitchers would.

I really hope he doesn’t retire after 2027 if he’s still pitching this well. Not for us cause we’re selfish and want him to keep pitching for the Phillies. But in general as an athlete, you only get so many years where you can get paid and you’re at your peak. The fact that he would be 37 and still pitching this well he should cash in on that. Add on if he can go to 2029 pitching at this level he’d essentially have 8-9 years of dominance. I think could make the case he eventually would get into the HOF. He’d be one of the top 3 pitchers from the time he got to the Phillies til he retired if he goes to 2029 or 2030.

On 6/15/2026 at 3:15 PM, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Bohm being 2nd for 3b is amazing lol

Fans should not be allowed to vote anymore

Hey they listened to me about just saying F it going 3 LH hitters to start the lineup

Stott is playing reallying well

Is Tyler Phillips losing his mind? I’m not watching the game but see that he’s on the bump. He cracks me up when he goes ballistic

3 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Fans should not be allowed to vote anymore

He's about to move into 1st!

26 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Stott is playing reallying well

It’s easier to appreciate him when you don’t think he’s going to be Chase Utley. We’ve only had one chase in the last 40 years. So it’s not very likely he was ever gonna be that. But if he gives you average to slightly above average hitting for his position and great fielding at his position, that’s fine. The bigger issue has been their outfield besides marsh doesn’t consistently hit, Turner’s been terrible and Alec Bohm finally started being closer to what he’s been over the last couple years

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s easier to appreciate him when you don’t think he’s going to be Chase Utley. We’ve only had one chase in the last 40 years. So it’s not very likely he was ever gonna be that. But if he gives you average to slightly above average hitting for his position and great fielding at his position, that’s fine. The bigger issue has been their outfield besides marsh doesn’t consistently hit, Turner’s been terrible and Alec Bohm finally started being closer to what he’s been over the last couple years

I've always kept my expectations of Stott in check, great defense, good speed and can give you really good at bats when he's on. He's a solid 2nd baseman. People expecting Chase are going to be disappointed and are delusional.

It was interesting a little bit ago after Marsh hit that home run and they were talking about how this is the guy the Phillies traded for and expected him to turn into. I'm not ready to say he is there just yet but, he does this the rest of the season then yeah this would have been one of Dombrowkskis best moves for as much as I hate saying that.

I’m guessing the series against the Mets we play Thursday then have an off day Friday and then play Saturday and Sunday because of the World Cup

Right on cue Stott with a nice play and the call for a gold glove lol.

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I've always kept my expectations of Stott in check, great defense, good speed and can give you really good at bats when he's on. He's a solid 2nd baseman. People expecting Chase are going to be disappointed and are delusional.

It was interesting a little bit ago after Marsh hit that home run and they were talking about how this is the guy the Phillies traded for and expected him to turn into. I'm not ready to say he is there just yet but, he does this the rest of the season then yeah this would have been one of Dombrowkskis best moves for as much as I hate saying that.

that trade looks immensely better now than what it did last May. Ohope hasn’t become anything, but what he became or what he did didn’t become didn’t matter at that point. You were always trading him as an asset because you signed Jt Realmuto the contract the same year you traded him. So he was always getting dealt so you were trying to capitalize on your asset.

I thought that was a bad trade up until this year. it’s a loss on me cause I didn’t think Brandon marsh was ever gonna be able to hit left-handed pitching. So if you traded one of your best assets that you had at that time for a platoon player, at the time of the trade ideally, you wanted a full-time player at centerfield not a platoon player with that type of top 60 prospect. Marsh learning how to hit left-handed pitching this year, makes that trade awesome for the Phillies. Granted you would’ve wished you would’ve done that two or three years ago not one year before he runs out of arbitration.

Just now, Bwestbrook36 said:

Right on cue Stott with a nice play and the call for a gold glove lol.

He should’ve won it last year. I would argue. He is top three at his position fielding It’s unfortunate Turner is slightly below average at shortstop.

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