July 23, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: It’s brutal not to get the game. Ridiculous Because we don’t have Apple + or whatever the f it is. This. And I'm glad I didn't waste my time anyway.
July 23, 20224 yr 15 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Frankly the angels are in the business of wasting otani and trout’s careers Those guys chose to sign there
July 23, 20224 yr 22 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: Those guys chose to sign there Doesn’t explain why the angels have consistently not been able to build the team around them in that market. I’d sign to be in Orange County too for that money. I don’t think trout or otani are complaining about being there. That still doesn’t excuse the angels for consistently not being good or at least make the postseason with 2 of the best players in the league. They’ve had trout for 12 years. Played 3 postseason games in that time. Had otani and trout for 5 years, they are 51 games below .500. At some point it’s on the angels organizationally who only made the postseason 1 time in 12 years. Just saying the Phillies who’ve missed for 10 straight seasons still have 1 more postseason appearance than the angels in that time besides signing otani and extending trout, the angels organizationally have continued to just make bad moves. If i were the angels I’d trade Mike trout. He’s 32 and you aren’t in position to win. I’d try to max his value at what he is now rather than just let him age and breakdown (already started) and get nothing for him. He’s awesome if you are a contender but the longer you wait the longer he becomes a depreciating asset. The time to do it is now.
July 23, 20224 yr Not including todays game for the month of July phillies record and offense vs. anyone not named marlins and nats 4-6 and 2.9 runs per game (the last 7 games it’s been really bad 2-5 and 2 runs per game) Phillies record and offense vs. marlins and nats 5-1 and 5.7 runs per game.
July 24, 20224 yr 42 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: How anyone can argue that we need pitching of any kind over a hitter is beyond me. They really need both. Last night gibson was bad, they gave up 15 runs and couldn’t hit. Tonight wheeler and bullpen were great (til the 10th— also horrible defense) and we can’t hit. Tomorrow is Bailey falter and eflin is out for an extended period of time. Gibson for the past 2 months has a 5.7 era. They really need a starter and a bat (particularly a centerfielder). That said segura is apparently close to coming back which removes didi from the lineup so that’ll help. Plus if they get back harper mid august that’ll also a help.
July 24, 20224 yr Why didn’t the Phillies intentionally walk morel to load the bases to have a force out at any base?
July 24, 20224 yr The Phillies are back to being the Phillies. Losing games to teams they should beat. The offense has disappeared. The defense is horrible. And the bullpen has turned back into a pumpkin. The cardinals are going to win that last wild card due to how easy their schedule is. Even with the Phillies schedule being easy they just aren’t that good and don’t take care of business.
July 24, 20224 yr 20 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: Pitching has been decent recently, even the BO before this series. This offense has been horrific the past few weeks. If they had any offense they would have won today. Problem is they don’t have enough assets to get both. So if it’s one or the other it needs to be offense. The problem is the only major offensive player that is out there for the position that they need (centerfield) is Benintendi. There’s happ who’s a solid upgrade but the market is going to be competitive for him. We don’t have as good of prospects as a team like the Yankees who’d overpay for him (in on him)or a team that is a better position long term to give a prospect to get benintendi. benintendi the biggest difference maker at centerfield on the market. Unless you’re willing to give up painter, Abel or McGarry then you likely aren’t getting him. Add on benintendi is a FA at year’s end so you essentially have to give him a big deal to keep him. If you do that, it likely takes you out of the trea Turner market next offseason. which they currently have a hole at SS or 2b next year the secondary market you’re basically with guys who are slightly better than what you’re trying to win with now besides happ. I think they can get happ but they likely overpay as the drop off form benintendi to happ to after him is steep. It’s likely what i think they do. Another issue is if gibson pitches like he has the last 2 months, falter is what he is (and even Suarez) and a hole in the rotation where they have to go bullpen games then you’ll begin to overwork your bullpen and they’ll deteriorate. If I’m giving up major prospects in a trade I’m going after an ace type pitcher like Luis Castillo or montas who’ve been great for the Reds and A’s this year. And both controllable for another year. Go after a slight upgrade in CF and hope segura returns soon and harper by mid august is enough.
July 24, 20224 yr 17 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: Well with no offensive help, this team isn’t doing ish. So there’s no reason to make a move. Tbh I’d not make a move until august 1st to reassess where they are. Legitimate they had cubs, Braves and pirates for 10 games. 7 against cubs and pirates. They should’ve been able to go at least 6-4 in this stretch. If they manage to not even go 5-5 i don’t think it’s worth it for them to make a move unless they are making one that also helps in 2023. but this is going well
July 24, 20224 yr 58 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Tbh I’d not make a move until august 1st to reassess where they are. Legitimate they had cubs, Braves and pirates for 10 games. 7 against cubs and pirates. They should’ve been able to go at least 6-4 in this stretch. If they manage to not even go 5-5 i don’t think it’s worth it for them to make a move unless they are making one that also helps in 2023. but this is going well It was a stupid question
July 24, 20224 yr This team is beyond frustrating. Back to zero offense. Castellanos couldn't give two ishes. Somehow he has no power this year to go with his crap OBP and crap attitude. Gibson has become too inconsistent. Eflin has glass knees and isnt that good anyway. Every time Wheeler and Nola pitch the offense takes a night off and wastes too many quality starts. They are about to get swept by the Fn Cubs who were 1-9 in their last 10 and 22 games under .500 before playing the Phils.
July 24, 20224 yr 9 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: Well with no offensive help, this team isn’t doing ish. So there’s no reason to make a move. This. They need to sell
July 24, 20224 yr 3 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: So what? The guy is bombastic and cocky when things are going well (last year) and looks like he doesn’t give a F this year. It’s gonna get worse for him now. Between him, Hoskins and Bohm, I don’t know who is more unlikable. Sign the contract to come to Philly and make all that money, you might wanna toughen up a little. i think this is the biggest example of why pivetta has been saying that there's a big culture problem here and the reason why the phillies are always in this funk. you need players that know how to win and experienced winning and not chasing after money. i mean is it all on joe? no, i think he tried to do all he can and flamed out because the players arent trying or listening. that's the real problem with this team, there's no winners on the roster, if there was winners on this roster, i think joe wouldnt have a problem with them. no manager is going to change this.
July 24, 20224 yr Trash team about to be swept by the lowly Cubs. Good thing Castellanos is mic'd up though...
July 24, 20224 yr if we get swept by the Braves we will be 49-49. I’d actually look to sell at the deadline at that point or if making move do it for 2023. This team is flawed. We have guys who can’t hit consistently. Even schwarber who was great in June has been lackluster in April, May and June. Goes back to what i said at the end of June, he was great in June cause he was walking, getting hits and hitting homers. The other 3 months it’s hit a homer or basically useless. Ditto for Rhys who’s really been what he is either extremely hot or just ice cold. Castellanos has been awful all year. Realmuto while better this month is a shell of what he was 2-3 years ago. Not having segura and harper killed this team. Legitimately bohm is our most consistent hitter right now but bleh power haven’t talked about how falter and gibson in the same rotation and relying on eflin is eventually going to implode.
July 24, 20224 yr 3 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: if we get swept by the Braves we will be 49-49. I’d actually look to sell at the deadline at that point or if making move do it for 2023. This team is flawed. We have guys who can’t hit consistently. Even schwarber who was great in June has been lackluster in April, May and June. Goes back to what i said at the end of June, he was great in June cause he was walking, getting hits and hitting homers. The other 3 months it’s hit a homer or basically useless. Ditto for Rhys who’s really been what he is either extremely hot or just ice cold. Castellanos has been awful all year. Realmuto while better this month is a shell of what he was 2-3 years ago. Not having segura and harper killed this team. Legitimately bohm is our most consistent hitter right now but bleh power haven’t talked about how falter and gibson in the same rotation and relying on eflin is eventually going to implode. Agreed. They should’ve sold last year too, but instead they trade prospects for mediocre players hoping to get the last wild card spot. The Phillies will never be relevant until they build up the farm and have actual homegrown talent. Bryce’s prime is most likely going to be wasted.
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