Robertson was terrible 

LOL

Incredible 

Robertson is ass again but WTF did Thomson leave him in for 41 pitches? The guy is close to social security.

3 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

Robertson is ass again but WTF did Thomson leave him in for 41 pitches? The guy is close to social security.

Robertson is good, but not for 2 innings…

23 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

Robertson is ass again but WTF did Thomson leave him in for 41 pitches? The guy is close to social security.

 

20 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Robertson is good, but not for 2 innings…

The fact that they sent him out for a second inning is beyond stupid. He can’t do it. How many times do you have to see him have the same issue when the second inning is pitching? I like Thomson but this week he has had so many **** managerial decisions that may play the Phillies out of the playoffs.

I talked about in game one against the Diamondbacks they’re stealing bases for no reason at that time. bumgarner had been terrible and you could hit him so no need to even run yourself out of a potential big inning. The use of his bullpen has been horrific this week. Granted it’s not all him because the starters only Bailey falter got to the fifth inning. That’s pathetic.

2 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

You know it , starts now!!

Hate to be that guy but I’m starting to wonder if Harper is a real dope in the clubhouse.  Nats won it all after he left, Phillies played the best they have all season without him, and have been awful since he’s been back.  Really hope that’s not the case…There are many other issues with this team right now but makes you wonder.

8 hours ago, GoEagles5921 said:

Hate to be that guy but I’m starting to wonder if Harper is a real dope in the clubhouse.  Nats won it all after he left, Phillies played the best they have all season without him, and have been awful since he’s been back.  Really hope that’s not the case…There are many other issues with this team right now but makes you wonder.

Tbh I think the bigger issue right now is their starting pitching and bullpen is just absolutely awful. This road trip they had one starter go five innings or more. And it was Bailey Falter. I am not sure the last time I’ve seen 6 games where only one starting pitcher got to the fifth inning. Add on the starting pitchers on this road trip pitched 24 innings and gave up 24 ERs. The average start on this road trip was 4 innings and giving up 4ERs.

There’s multiple things going on with this rotation. I think Suarez is just done at this point. The innings caught up to him. You see around the 4th he just loses controls and can’t get enough velocity to put guys away. syndergaard and gibson are what they are. They are hit or miss depending on the start. Nola has always had issues in September. I don’t think Zack Wheeler is coming back this season. When you start having inflammation of your forearm it usually is stemming from your elbow. Which scares me that he might have more damage than they’re leading on and he might be in the position where they’re going to try to correct it like they did with Dominguez instead of just making him get the surgery from the start. 

I don’t know what the hell happened to the bullpen. knebel got injured and Dominguez got injured then everyone else in the bullpen has decided they forgot how to pitch. This road trip was as bad for them as well. They pitched 26 innings and gave up 20 ERs. Furthermore we are making stupid decisions to use Robertson for two innings. He can’t do it anymore. He’s fine for one. the bullpen really doesn’t have anyone besides Robertson for an inning that you can trust right now. 

I think the offense is gonna be fine. They’re gonna have these games were they are feast and famine because that’s who they are. I’m not so sure the pitching staff is gonna correct itself. 

I would say it’s Harper if the Phillies didn’t have the same issue even before they got Bryce Harper. Seems like it’s just not that great of a core and they can’t avoid injuries. 

the giants series is really where i think you could make the case a collapse is on. Dbacks i can understand losing 2 of 3. They are playing really well since the all star break. They are 25-17. There was no day off when they flew out there. The giants have been atrocious prior to this series. They lost 7 in a row coming into the series and 11 of 13. The team was left for dead and the Phillies just flat out no showed in game one to set the tone for the series 

May should also probably be Ben Simmons. 

 

3 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Tbh I think the bigger issue right now is their starting pitching and bullpen is just absolutely awful. This road trip they had one starter go five innings or more. And it was Bailey Falter. I am not sure the last time I’ve seen 6 games where only one starting pitcher got to the fifth inning. Add on the starting pitchers on this road trip pitched 24 innings and gave up 24 ERs. The average start on this road trip was 4 innings and giving up 4ERs.

There’s multiple things going on with this rotation. I think Suarez is just done at this point. The innings caught up to him. You see around the 4th he just loses controls and can’t get enough velocity to put guys away. syndergaard and gibson are what they are. They are hit or miss depending on the start. Nola has always had issues in September. I don’t think Zack Wheeler is coming back this season. When you start having inflammation of your forearm it usually is stemming from your elbow. Which scares me that he might have more damage than they’re leading on and he might be in the position where they’re going to try to correct it like they did with Dominguez instead of just making him get the surgery from the start. 

I don’t know what the hell happened to the bullpen. knebel got injured and Dominguez got injured then everyone else in the bullpen has decided they forgot how to pitch. This road trip was as bad for them as well. They pitched 26 innings and gave up 20 ERs. Furthermore we are making stupid decisions to use Robertson for two innings. He can’t do it anymore. He’s fine for one. the bullpen really doesn’t have anyone besides Robertson for an inning that you can trust right now. 

I think the offense is gonna be fine. They’re gonna have these games were they are feast and famine because that’s who they are. I’m not so sure the pitching staff is gonna correct itself. 

I would say it’s Harper if the Phillies didn’t have the same issue even before they got Bryce Harper. Seems like it’s just not that great of a core and they can’t avoid injuries. 

the giants series is really where i think you could make the case a collapse is on. Dbacks i can understand losing 2 of 3. They are playing really well since the all star break. They are 25-17. There was no day off when they flew out there. The giants have been atrocious prior to this series. They lost 7 in a row coming into the series and 11 of 13. The team was left for dead and the Phillies just flat out no showed in game one to set the tone for the series 

Yeah the pitching has been bad but they also had plenty of runners on and continually couldn’t get them in.  The offense has been less than spectacular too except 1 game against the Dbacks.  They are bad on all levels right now.

1 hour ago, GoEagles5921 said:

Yeah the pitching has been bad but they also had plenty of runners on and continually couldn’t get them in.  The offense has been less than spectacular too except 1 game against the Dbacks.  They are bad on all levels right now.

Tbh i think their playoff chances depend on the next 9 games vs. marlins and nats. Imo they need to go 6-3 at worse to have a chance at the end. Cause after these 9 they have 7 against atlanta and 2 against Toronto. I imagine with how the pitching is looking and hitting is going that 2-7 over that span isn’t far fetched 

42 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Tbh i think their playoff chances depend on the next 9 games vs. marlins and nats. Imo they need to go 6-3 at worse to have a chance at the end. Cause after these 9 they have 7 against atlanta and 2 against Toronto. I imagine with how the pitching is looking and hitting is going that 2-7 over that span isn’t far fetched 

Hopefully Wheeler and Seranthony are back by that stretch but I have my doubts they can even handle the Nats and Marlins at this point.  The Nats just won 2 in a row against the Mets, and of course we are facing Alcantara again against the Marlins.

10 minutes ago, GoEagles5921 said:

Hopefully Wheeler and Seranthony are back by that stretch but I have my doubts they can even handle the Nats and Marlins at this point.  The Nats just won 2 in a row against the Mets, and of course we are facing Alcantara again against the Marlins.

just bringing it out there would cole hamels be a good pitching coach?

21 minutes ago, GoEagles5921 said:

Hopefully Wheeler and Seranthony are back by that stretch but I have my doubts they can even handle the Nats and Marlins at this point.  The Nats just won 2 in a row against the Mets, and of course we are facing Alcantara again against the Marlins.

I have a feeling wheeler isn’t coming back this year. They gave him 15 days and he still has inflammation of his forearm. I forget what beat writer was on WIP talking about it but he laid out with how the Phillies were talking and their past with dealing with injuries that he believes there’s more going on with wheeler then the Phillies are letting on. He thought this was an injury that potentially linger into the offseason.

Tbh one of the reasons i really wanted them to make a push for another front line starter at the deadline is because i didn’t trust Suarez to hold up all year. he’s never thrown this many innings. Nola has always had struggles in September. Gibson is hit or miss. And eflin couldn’t be trusted even if he came back. Wheeler i thought would be a constant but his injury just makes me solidify my feelings that this offseason they need to get another Ace type pitcher. He’s getting older and not sure you can just rely on him being What he’s been and holding up.   

dominguez i think returns sometime this week which really helps give the Phillies at least their 8th and 9th inning guys. The issue is really finding other guys who can be consistent. Feels like it’s a crapshoot on what the hell you are gonna get from anyone not named Robertson (for an inning) and dominguez when healthy 

I wouldn’t be surprised if we see him before the end of the year 

 

19 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I have a feeling wheeler isn’t coming back this year. They gave him 15 days and he still has inflammation of his forearm. I forget what beat writer was on WIP talking about it but he laid out with how the Phillies were talking and their past with dealing with injuries that he believes there’s more going on with wheeler then the Phillies are letting on. He thought this was an injury that potentially linger into the offseason.

Tbh one of the reasons i really wanted them to make a push for another front line starter at the deadline is because i didn’t trust Suarez to hold up all year. he’s never thrown this many innings. Nola has always had struggles in September. Gibson is hit or miss. And eflin couldn’t be trusted even if he came back. Wheeler i thought would be a constant but his injury just makes me solidify my feelings that this offseason they need to get another Ace type pitcher. He’s getting older and not sure you can just rely on him being What he’s been and holding up.   

dominguez i think returns sometime this week which really helps give the Phillies at least their 8th and 9th inning guys. The issue is really finding other guys who can be consistent. Feels like it’s a crapshoot on what the hell you are gonna get from anyone not named Robertson (for an inning) and dominguez when healthy 

If Wheeler is done for the season then I really hope they don’t make the playoffs.  Wheeler and maybe Nola would give them a slight chance but just Nola?  Absolutely no way they even win a game.

5 minutes ago, GoEagles5921 said:

If Wheeler is done for the season then I really hope they don’t make the playoffs.  Wheeler and maybe Nola would give them a slight chance but just Nola?  Absolutely no way they even win a game.

Not sure you can really count on nola in September. Discounting September 2020 cause they played 60 games, his era in 2021 was 6.19 and in 2019 it was 6.51. 

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not sure you can really count on nola in September. Discounting September 2020 cause they played 60 games, his era in 2021 was 6.19 and in 2019 it was 6.51. 

That’s why i said slight chance with both of them in a playoff series, but with just Nola, forget it.  That’s if they even get there which I doubt.

Also where’s the power from Schwarber, harper and hoskins. Harper has 0 HRs in his last 31 at bats. Schwarber has 3 since start of august (103 AB). Rhys has 2 in his last 90 AB. 

1 hour ago, GoEagles5921 said:

If Wheeler is done for the season then I really hope they don’t make the playoffs.  Wheeler and maybe Nola would give them a slight chance but just Nola?  Absolutely no way they even win a game.

I don't get it. Even if they have no chance of winning (which I don't agree with but that's beside the point), why wouldn't you want them to make the playoffs?

1 hour ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I don't get it. Even if they have no chance of winning (which I don't agree with but that's beside the point), why wouldn't you want them to make the playoffs?

Because who wants to watch them get swept and not even put up a fight?  Totally pointless 

Brewers won.  Lead down to 2

7 hours ago, GoEagles5921 said:

Because who wants to watch them get swept and not even put up a fight?  Totally pointless 

Was that your attitude in ‘07?  They snuck in and got swept. We know what happened the next year. 
 

Not saying they’re winning next season, but it’s dumb to say you don’t want them to get in just because they might get swept.