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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - Still can't hit for crap

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What pissed me off with the we aren’t touching the lineup is, this lineup construction was only used 6 times in the second half of the season. So basically less than 10 times all year with this lineup. So going into the postseason you made a lineup where guys aren’t comfortable cause you didn’t use this lineup very much. 

on top of this, stott for the year hits .218 in the 5 hole. Meanwhile 6 hole he hits .357 and 7 hole .353. Bohm in the 4 hole is hitting .253. Meanwhile 5 hole he hits .277 and 7 hole .321. And it’s not small sample sizes showing this. So the stupidity and stubbornness of using stott and bohm in situations where they are less productive is ridiculous. Like Phillies want to be an analytics type organization. Well the analytics tell you neither are at their best production wise  where you have them and it’s proven out to be that way during the regular season and now postseason. 

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Well, he already said he's not changing it up. They will need to find another way to win without them pitching to Schwarbs and Harper.  This game may well suck some more life outta me.

12 minutes ago, DiPros said:

Well, he already said he's not changing it up. They will need to find another way to win without them pitching to Schwarbs and Harper.  This game may well suck some more life outta me.

Makes it even dumber he won’t.  realmuto vs. dbacks this year is hitting .326 (14-43) with 3 HRs and 12RBIs in 13 games. The fact the Phillies champion themselves as an analytics organization and analytics screams at them what they are doing isn’t the best lineup. meanwhile the analytics tell you realmuto should bat behind harper for protection and moving stott/bohm into more comfortable spots in the lineup. 

20 minutes ago, DiPros said:

Well, he already said he's not changing it up. They will need to find another way to win without them pitching to Schwarbs and Harper.  This game may well suck some more life outta me.

They both had pitches to hit last game. Harper seems to be Teflon. He gets off the hook for bad performances

20 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Makes it even dumber he won’t.  realmuto vs. dbacks this year is hitting .326 (14-43) with 3 HRs and 12RBIs in 13 games. The fact the Phillies champion themselves as an analytics organization and analytics screams at them what they are doing isn’t the best lineup. meanwhile the analytics tell you realmuto should bat behind harper for protection and moving stott/bohm into more comfortable spots in the lineup. 

I don't disagree with this at all.  Just saying it is what it is, and they're gonna have to find another way to this W.  If they lose, Topper will deserve the blame.

2 hours ago, mr_hunt said:

Delco or NEPA?  Does it even matter? 

 

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

I couldn't even sleep. You know what is coming

 

An NL Pennant, that's what's coming.

3 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

An NL Pennant, that's what's coming.

We have seen this movie so many times. EAGLES listed the stats and they are brutal for us in game 7s. The manager isn't countering their chess moves. The bats are cold. The best players won't see pitches and the team they played yesterday is back to being the team that swept the Dodgers. They are f'ed.

Ranger will pitch well but give up one or two runs. They will look lost as hell vs the kid. He'll put in Big K or Soto and they will get more runs. Harper won't see a good pitch all night.

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

We have seen this movie so many times. EAGLES listed the stats and they are brutal for us in game 7s. The manager isn't countering their chess moves. The bats are cold. The best players won't see pitches and the team they played yesterday is back to being the team that swept the Dodgers. They are f'ed.

 

Phillies win, 7-4

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Phillies win, 7-4

Bless you for your optimism. I tried that yesterday and it's probably my fault they lost. I was calm and thought they are winning this. When I'm optimistic life says spin the wheel again. 

Beat Dallas game 7 World Series then next day eagles beat Dallas 

9 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

We have seen this movie so many times. EAGLES listed the stats and they are brutal for us in game 7s. The manager isn't countering their chess moves. The bats are cold. The best players won't see pitches and the team they played yesterday is back to being the team that swept the Dodgers. They are f'ed.

Ranger will pitch well but give up one or two runs. They will look lost as hell vs the kid. He'll put in Big K or Soto and they will get more runs. Harper won't see a good pitch all night.

Matters worse is that turner and castellanos have reverted back to what castellanos was in 2022 and July and Turner before the ovation. 

castellanos is 0 for his last 19 with 9 Ks 

and Turner is 1 for his last 14. 

I have such a negative outlook about tonight :lol: I really don't even wanna watch.  I felt the same way about Saturday, but I was at a wedding and couldn't watch.  Maybe I should skip this one too 

2011 NLDS vibes. Shutout 1-0

I may be crazy, but I hit Harper 2nd tonight. You want to pitch around both of them, then 2 on, none out. They can both hit lefties well enough.

Schwarber
Harper
Turner
Realmuto
Marsh
Catellanos
Stott
Bohm
Rojas

9 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I have such a negative outlook about tonight :lol: I really don't even wanna watch.  I felt the same way about Saturday, but I was at a wedding and couldn't watch.  Maybe I should skip this one too 

Frankly i really didn’t want to go to game 5 cause i felt like i was going to a funeral with how they were blowing it. Maybe best not to watch that way it won’t be ingrained in your head for the rest of your life lol 

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I may be crazy, but I hit Harper 2nd tonight. You want to pitch around both of them, then 2 on, none out. They can both hit lefties well enough.

Schwarber
Harper
Turner
Realmuto
Marsh
Catellanos
Stott
Bohm
Rojas

They won’t do it due to the top of the lineup being LLRR. Makes for late game situations where dbacks would just go lefty to face schwarber and harper. Then righty for the next 3 of 4. 

Alec Bohm is just 23-101 (.228) in 29 career playoff games with one home run and 24 strikeouts.

25 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Bless you for your optimism. I tried that yesterday and it's probably my fault they lost. I was calm and thought they are winning this. When I'm optimistic life says spin the wheel again. 

 

Optimism is usually not something I'm associated with. I'm just feeling this for some reason. They hit a little slump, but I think the fire is finally reaching their asses. They'll respond tonight. I think Bryce & Co. step it up and the pitching holds up well enough to make it to the W.S.

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Alec Bohm is just 23-101 (.228) in 29 career playoff games with one home run and 24 strikeouts.

He is the kind of guy who gets worse the longer the slump lasts.  He doesn't have the confidence to stay within himself and right the ship.  He just keeps pressing harder and harder until he has Stevie Wonder swings with balls that are 2 feet outside the strike zone.

8 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Optimism is usually not something I'm associated with. I'm just feeling this for some reason. They hit a little slump, but I think the fire is finally reaching their asses. They'll respond tonight. I think Bryce & Co. step it up and the pitching holds up well enough to make it to the W.S.

Bryce can't step up until Alec gets his crap together or they put someone else to protect him.  That being said, he needs to be more disciplined.  We all know he prefers a double or homerun to a walk, but we need to get baserunners on early and often.

Just saying this has been a very sixers-esque type of series for the Phillies. 

24 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Just saying this has been a very sixers-esque type of series for the Phillies. 

You nailed it

1 hour ago, Khani1 said:

He is the kind of guy who gets worse the longer the slump lasts.  He doesn't have the confidence to stay within himself and right the ship.  He just keeps pressing harder and harder until he has Stevie Wonder swings with balls that are 2 feet outside the strike zone.

Yep. Again, just like Friday everyone in the world can see this just not Robby T. It makes zero sense to leave him at 4. His confidence is already crap it can't get much lower. Move Marsh up since he's hot and put Bohm in his places cause of the stats EAGLES posted. Maybe it sparks them both and more importantly Harper may see some good pitches. 

He won't and it will be just like Houston game 5 where they pitch around Harper and get the easy out right after him.....or even better a double play at the wrong moment. 

And for the love of all that is....Robby T needs to slap Turner in the face like Hitch when he says I want to swing at the first pitch. Nope...you live right here. Take the first damn pitch. 

46 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Yep. Again, just like Friday everyone in the world can see this just not Robby T. It makes zero sense to leave him at 4. His confidence is already crap it can't get much lower. Move Marsh up since he's hot and put Bohm in his places cause of the stats EAGLES posted. Maybe it sparks them both and more importantly Harper may see some good pitches. 

He won't and it will be just like Houston game 5 where they pitch around Harper and get the easy out right after him.....or even better a double play at the wrong moment. 

And for the love of all that is....Robby T needs to slap Turner in the face like Hitch when he says I want to swing at the first pitch. Nope...you live right here. Take the first damn pitch. 

His at bat in the 2nd inning last night was infuriating. Dope swings at 3 pitches not even close to the strike zone. Everyone in the stadium and at home expects Turner to swing at the first pitch and sure enough he does and the pitch isn't even close. Smart pitching and dumb hitting from a post season veteran. 

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