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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - Still can't hit for crap

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Bauer has a rep as a bad teammate.... thats not counting his other issues with his public rep.

Not sure the Phils want that type of attention. Nor mixing it in to the clubhouse.

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24 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

 

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18 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

This is a good low risk/high reward move.  

He threw a no hitter and put up solid numbers before needing Tommy John 

19 hours ago, devpool said:

The Phillies should have signed him the day he said this. They have a desperate need for starting pitching, really pitching in general. The chick lied, and he was never charged with anything. 

The Phillies have the opposite of a "desperate need for starting pitching" 

They have probably the deepest starting pitching depth in all of baseball and are ranked #1 or #2 by most Stat sites going into this season. 

https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=SP

They were also the #1 Ranked pitching staff last season 

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

 

6 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

The Phillies have the opposite of a "desperate need for starting pitching" 

They have probably the deepest starting pitching depth in all of baseball and are ranked #1 or #2 by most Stat sites going into this season. 

https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=SP

They were also the #1 Ranked pitching staff last season 

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

 

Yea I'm gonna go ahead and say that this is where stats don't tell an entire story. If you felt comfortable running it back with the same starters you've lost the plot. Nola is ridiculously inconsistent, Sanchez is unproven, Suarez is a good 4 who can barely go through the lineup twice, they didn't even use walker in the postseason so what does that say about their trust in him? Wheeler is the only consistent top 3 pitcher they have. Yea, they're in desperate need for starting pitching. Why do you think it was such a blow losing painter until 2025? Because they have no one behind wheeler and a very streaky Nola. 

18 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

The Phillies have the opposite of a "desperate need for starting pitching" 

They have probably the deepest starting pitching depth in all of baseball and are ranked #1 or #2 by most Stat sites going into this season. 

https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=SP

They were also the #1 Ranked pitching staff last season 

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

 

I’m fine with them signing Montgomery if it’s like a 3-4 year deal. 

1. Nola was super inconsistent last year. If he is inconsistent again it gives us the ability to not have to just hope Nola regains himself in the postseason. Going into the postseason we had no clue what Nola we were getting. Fortunately he was good. Very easily could’ve been what he was all year and killed you. 

2. want wheeler back but he’s apparently asking for a boatload according to Salisbury. If he’s asking for a lot and years too then he might ultimately not be back. I know they want him back that doesn’t mean he won’t test Fa and if he gets something ridiculous he might not be back. Like eskin said it gives them some protection in case he does leave. And if he stays that’s a hell Of a 1-4 and you got painter coming back in 2025. That’s an elite rotation and can use Walker in a trade in 2025 (hope he is better this year)

3. Ranger never stays healthy all year. So need another arm to have 6 starters. Currently it’s Nola, wheeler, ranger, walker and Sanchez. With turnbull who was awful last year and might never be good again. Abel is unlikely ready to be a mlb pitcher. Don’t want to have to rely on strahm as a SP again. 

4. A chance with the amount of innings Sanchez pitches that he regressed. He never threw that many til last year. Could have a situation that a lot of pitchers have where they pitch a peak amount of innings one year and have a regression.

5. If it’s a 3-4 year deal for Montgomery it’s a good contract. He’s been good/great the last 3 years and in the postseason last year. Plus he is a left. Allows us to go wheeler, Montgomery, Nola, Ranger and Walker/sanchez. Heck of a r-l-r-l-r rotation. 

 

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Apparantly they changed the nameplate font on the jerseys 

 

 

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1 hour ago, iladelphxx said:

Apparantly they changed the nameplate font on the jerseys 

 

 

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The almighty nike is changing all.... Lord I hate that company.

It looks and probably is... cheaper.

 

 

5 hours ago, Steve 17 said:

The almighty nike is changing all.... Lord I hate that company.

It looks and probably is... cheaper.

There have been some huge complaints from Cardinals players on jerseys with changed nameplates and cheap-o jerseys.  It could be a league-wide problem.

4 hours ago, xzmattzx said:

There have been some huge complaints from Cardinals players on jerseys with changed nameplates and cheap-o jerseys.  It could be a league-wide problem.

It's actually not Nike.... It's Fanatics.  Nike basically licensed their logo to Fanatics. 

If anyone has bought anything from them, you know how bad their quality control is. 

Remember all of the issues they had with the Kelly Green Eagles jerseys? 

https://twitter.com/ShoTimeDoyers/status/1756525907987366076?s=19

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

10 hours ago, iladelphxx said:

It's actually not Nike.... It's Fanatics.  Nike basically licensed their logo to Fanatics. 

If anyone has bought anything from them, you know how bad their quality control is. 

Remember all of the issues they had with the Kelly Green Eagles jerseys? 

https://twitter.com/ShoTimeDoyers/status/1756525907987366076?s=19

 

 

So Nike just outsources their jersey work to Fanatics?  What do they even do with the uniforms then?

Everything is done under Nike's direction. Fanatics is evil in their own way. But in this particular case they are just following orders.

However, things that I have read said the players are complaining that the stuff looks cheap.

Eskin predicted 5 year/$40m per for Wheeler. If that’s what Wheeler is asking, I’m moving on. 

3 hours ago, Steve 17 said:

Everything is done under Nike's direction. Fanatics is evil in their own way. But in this particular case they are just following orders.

However, things that I have read said the players are complaining that the stuff looks cheap.

https://theathletic.com/5276715/2024/02/15/nike-mlb-fanatics-jersey-issues/

Nike partnered with Fanatics — which had purchased MLB’s 2005-19 uniform supplier, Majestic, in April 2017 — to manufacture the jerseys. So the Nike jerseys are now produced by Fanatics, out of the same Pennsylvania factory where Majestic jerseys were once made. "The money exchanged in these deals is really just for that brand’s corporate logo on the jersey,”

Creamer wrote. "The leagues or the companies involved don’t seem too bothered by who is actually producing it.”

 

I’ll tell you this majestic jerseys were far better than the Nike even from the before 2024. Frankly majestic, rawlinfs and Wilson all did a really good job from 1950s til Nike. Shame fanatics and Nike basically have ruined the baseball jerseys. 

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Phillies signed Whit Merrifield! 

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