14 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

They have not mentioned one time that hurts does or will require surgery after the season. I said that lanes injury requires surgery but is still playing. So obviously I know they play through injuries that will require surgery. 

I didn’t say it required surgery I initially said "I AM CONCERNED THAT HIS SHOULDER IS STILL AN ISSUE, I WONDER IF IT WILL REQUIRE SURGERY IN THE OFFSEASON”. Then you started quoting me going on about random bs. 
 

Learn how to read before quoting me. 

11 minutes ago, MagicMoment said:

I didn’t say it required surgery I initially said "I AM CONCERNED THAT HIS SHOULDER IS STILL AN ISSUE, I WONDER IF IT WILL REQUIRE SURGERY IN THE OFFSEASON”. Then you started quoting me going on about random bs. 
 

Learn how to read before quoting me. 

I was just trying to help answer your concern nothing more nothing less. Not sure why you are so pissy about it. I didn't talk down to you call you any names or insult you. 

That being said I read it just fine. I was simply saying that lanes injury will require surgery after the season and he is on the injury report. Jalen is not on the injury report so maybe that's an indication that it won't require surgery. That's all I was trying to say. I could be wrong idk. 

22 minutes ago, MagicMoment said:

I didn’t say it required surgery I initially said "I AM CONCERNED THAT HIS SHOULDER IS STILL AN ISSUE, I WONDER IF IT WILL REQUIRE SURGERY IN THE OFFSEASON”. Then you started quoting me going on about random bs. 
 

Learn how to read before quoting me. 

Why don't you believe that it has healed since it happened 5 weeks ago? Why don't you accept the input from doctors that stated it wasn't an injury that required surgery?

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"Jalen has a shoulder separation, basically an AC join strain," Dr. Lyons said. "It comes in six flavors, six is the worst and one is least bad. He's got between a one and a two, so structurally things look good. The only unfortunate part of this is it tends to be a nagging injury. So for the average person, six to 12 weeks before they're back to full recovery."

 

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To attempt to gain a greater understanding of what Hurts is going through, PhillyVoice spoke with Dr. Christopher Selgrath, an orthopedic surgeon at Nazareth Hospital, to get an expert's take. "I think another two weeks is going to do him well," Selgrath said regarding how this bye week is so important to Hurts' recovery process. "I don't think he re-injured anything. Some of his pain and soreness came from some of the stifness and lack of activity from the last two weeks. I think some of that is expected. Some of the soreness is coming from the original injury. 

 

"Arguably, he came back a little soon, but I don't think it caused any irreparable damage. I think it's more that he came back a little early, felt some soreness and pain because of that, but I think now, given another two weeks, I think he's going to be in pretty good shape."

There's optimism here. 

"Roughly speaking, it was a Grade 1 sprain," Selgrath said about Hurts' shoulder sprain that came in a win over the Bears on Dec. 19. "I think four weeks is a pretty good timetable to come back almost 100 percent. It's a little hiccup that he had to come back sooner, but I think he'll get through it and another two weeks is going to do him really well, especially with all the modality they can try.

"I think the bye week is really pivotal for him to get more rest. If he had to play this week, I think it would be a little rough."

 

 

29 minutes ago, MagicMoment said:

I didn’t say it required surgery I initially said "I AM CONCERNED THAT HIS SHOULDER IS STILL AN ISSUE, I WONDER IF IT WILL REQUIRE SURGERY IN THE OFFSEASON”. Then you started quoting me going on about random bs. 
 

Learn how to read before quoting me. 

His injury is not a surgery situation.  It will never be a surgery situation.  If he aggravates it and make it worse this weekend, it still will not require surgery.

It is a rest situation,  and will not be fully healed until after the season.

24 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

Why don't you believe that it has healed since it happened 5 weeks ago? Why don't you accept the input from doctors that stated it wasn't an injury that required surgery?

 

 

Because from Jalen’s own mouth he has said he is still "dealing with it”. Which again points to my original concern on if the shoulder will require offseason attention or if the Eagles are playing possum with the injury. But as I said, Jalen seems too focused to fake severity of an injury.  

8 minutes ago, MagicMoment said:

Because from Jalen’s own mouth he has said he is still "dealing with it”. Which again points to my original concern on if the shoulder will require offseason attention or if the Eagles are playing possum with the injury. But as I said, Jalen seems too focused to fake severity of an injury.  

From his own mouth more recently, he said:

Tua is still dealing with his concussion. Should he have surgery?

15 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

From his own mouth more recently, he said:

Tua is still dealing with his concussion. Should he have surgery?

No, but should seriously consider retirement 

21 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

From his own mouth more recently, he said:

Tua is still dealing with his concussion. Should he have surgery?

I like how you picked one snippet to try and make your point on. From your same interview he was asked "Do you have a sense yet of how a week of rest helped your physical situation?” and he replied "I don’t”. So again, my concern on if the injury was made a bigger deal than it was or more serious than just needing rest is still valid. I hope his shoulder is truly 100%  

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9 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

I think people will go full blame mode and say things like we need a pocket passer because he’s always hurt or they will try and discount everything he did this year in an attempt to blame him if they lose. He could have a good game and they will still blame him if they lose. They’re not so patiently waiting for their euphoric moment of lI told you so.” 

Hurts is unquestionably under the microscope in this game. The giants defence is not good (29th DVOA), and if Hurts puts up a stat line similar to the Tampa game last year, you better believe there’ll be lots of concern. 
 

If he lights them up and we lose in a shootout (which I don’t think will happen), then it’s a different conversation altogether.

It has nothing to do with "I told you so”. Hurts had a fantastic year; but if he can’t get it done in the playoffs, and is banged up at the end of the year, then it will certainly affect the contract negotiations.

9 minutes ago, MagicMoment said:

I like how you picked one snippet to try and make your point on. From your same interview he was asked "Do you have a sense yet of how a week of rest helped your physical situation?” and he replied "I don’t”. So again, my concern on if the injury was made a bigger deal than it was or more serious than just needing rest is still valid. I hope his shoulder is truly 100%  

Dude, it does not matter what clip you post, it does not matter what clip @brkmsn posts.  It does not matter what Jalen, or the Eagles say.

It does not matter if Jalen is 95% or 75% this weekend.

THIS IS A REST INJURY, IT WAS NEVER A SURGERY INJURY, IT IS NEVER GOING TO BE A SURGERY INJURY.

 

I don't know if  you are being intentionally obtuse just to keep arguing, but you are wrong, and he will never need surgery.

9 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

I think people will go full blame mode and say things like we need a pocket passer because he’s always hurt or they will try and discount everything he did this year in an attempt to blame him if they lose. He could have a good game and they will still blame him if they lose. They’re not so patiently waiting for their euphoric moment of lI told you so.” 

Um, haven't you been doing that for the last 3 months ?????

We are past all of that, but just like Carson Wentz, you can not let the past go.

I 100% the Eagles to win this weekend and there is no reason they should not win.  If they lose to an inferior Giants team, it will be one of two reasons.  The Defense did not hold up their end of the bargain, or the Offense did not hold up their end.  If it is the Offense, then the leader of that offense will be the first person looked at.

We have now moved on from fake worry to the pretend ramifications of a non issue. 
 

 

4 minutes ago, The Holy Vagabond said:

We have now moved on from fake worry to the pretend ramifications of a non issue. 
 

 

It may or may not still be a pain tolerance issue, but it was never a surgery issue.  I don't know why @MagicMoment thinks surgery is or was ever on the table.

21 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Dude, it does not matter what clip you post, it does not matter what clip @brkmsn posts.  It does not matter what Jalen, or the Eagles say.

It does not matter if Jalen is 95% or 75% this weekend.

THIS IS A REST INJURY, IT WAS NEVER A SURGERY INJURY, IT IS NEVER GOING TO BE A SURGERY INJURY.

 

I don't know if  you are being intentionally obtuse just to keep arguing, but you are wrong, and he will never need surgery.

Downundermike on an Internet forum says it’s simply a rest injury so it has to be just a rest injury, got it. Thanks for the info, I started to rely on the people tied to the team. 

1 minute ago, MagicMoment said:

Downundermike on an Internet forum says it’s simply a rest injury so it has to be just a rest injury, got it. Thanks for the info, I started to rely on the people tied to the team. 

Did you not read the post from the orthopaedic surgeon? 

9 minutes ago, downundermike said:

It may or may not still be a pain tolerance issue, but it was never a surgery issue.  I don't know why @MagicMoment thinks surgery is or was ever on the table.

You’re not good at comprehension so I’ll say it once more, I never said he needed surgery. I said "I wonder if surgery will be required in the offseason” because it’s been over a month and he still mentioned having to deal with a shoulder injury. 

4 minutes ago, MagicMoment said:

Downundermike on an Internet forum says it’s simply a rest injury so it has to be just a rest injury, got it. Thanks for the info, I started to rely on the people tied to the team. 

No one on the team has ever indicated surgery is an option.  He has an SC joint sprain.  He does not have a dislocation, and does not need repositioning.

@HazletonEagle care to chime in.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/sternoclavicular-sc-joint-injury-2549806#:~:text=Minor sprains to the SC joint are treated,the SC joint to 'pop' back into position.

Treatment

Minor sprains to the SC joint are treated with a sling and anti-inflammatory medications. When the SC joint is completely dislocated, a repositioning (called a reduction of the joint) of the SC joint can be attempted by sedating the patient and pulling gently on the arm. This may allow the SC joint to 'pop' back into position. The SC joint does not necessarily need to be perfectly repositioned to have a good long-term result.

Surgery to relocate the SC joint is considered for posterior SC dislocations, and some painful, symptomatic anterior SC dislocations. If non-surgical repositioning of the joint is not successful, then surgery may be done to relocate the SC joint and repair the damaged SC joint ligaments.

When surgery is performed for a posterior SC dislocation, the procedure is done with both an orthopedic and a vascular surgeon available. The reason is that there is a chance of damage to the major blood vessels of the chest, and a vascular surgeon must be immediately available if needed.3

Just now, downundermike said:

No one on the team has ever indicated surgery is an option.  He has an SC joint sprain.  He does not have a dislocation, and does not need repositioning.

@HazletonEagle care to chime in.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/sternoclavicular-sc-joint-injury-2549806#:~:text=Minor sprains to the SC joint are treated,the SC joint to 'pop' back into position.

 

 

Please don’t quote me again because you have a hard time reading and comprehending. I did not say it would need surgery, I said "I WONDER IF IT WOULD” because of the way it has lingered.  

5 minutes ago, MagicMoment said:

You’re not good at comprehension so I’ll say it once more, I never said he needed surgery. I said "I wonder if surgery will be required in the offseason” because it’s been over a month and he still mentioned having to deal with a shoulder injury. 

Dude, it is a sprain, they linger without rest.  He will not get the appropriate rest needed until the Eagles season is over.

2 minutes ago, MagicMoment said:

Please don’t quote me again because you have a hard time reading and comprehending. I did not say it would need surgery, I said "I WONDER IF IT WOULD” because of the way it has lingered.  

Dude, it is a sprain, they linger without rest.  He will not get the appropriate rest needed until the Eagles season is over.

4 minutes ago, downundermike said:

No one on the team has ever indicated surgery is an option.  He has an SC joint sprain.  He does not have a dislocation, and does not need repositioning.

@HazletonEagle care to chime in.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/sternoclavicular-sc-joint-injury-2549806#:~:text=Minor sprains to the SC joint are treated,the SC joint to 'pop' back into position.

 

 

No. These people are dumb.

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

No. These people are dumb.

The people I quoted, or the people talking about surgery ??

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

The people I quoted, or the people talking about surgery ??

Not sure. I havent been reading this thread. I missed the whole conversation. Im just making assumptions.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Not sure. I havent been reading this thread. I missed the whole conversation. Im just making assumptions.

@MagicMoment keeps asking if Hurts injury lingering may require surgery in the off season.  It was never dislocated, so it never required surgery.  

 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

Not sure. I havent been reading this thread. I missed the whole conversation. Im just making assumptions.

I'll fill you in:

"I wonder if Hurts needs surgery?"

"Everyone has said no, just rest"

"I only said I wondered, not that he did need it!!!"

Compelling stuff.

2 minutes ago, Swoop said:

I'll fill you in:

"I wonder if Hurts needs surgery?"

"Everyone has said no, just rest"

"I only said I wondered, not that he did need it!!!"

Compelling stuff.

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