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Jalen Hurts discussion (Part 2) - see new topic for contract extension

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4 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

As @Boogyman implies Jalen was highly effective with his downfield throwing for most of the season, but he’s struggled in the playoffs t  op this point so far.

Yeah, that’s all great. not critiquing him at all, just looking for the specific source of the tweet

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5 hours ago, BulldogCardinal said:

The underrated thing is the Eagle's passing game.  Don't fall asleep on the throws.  Hurts has honed his skills.

you're RTK clone, I knew it, thumper

7 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

As @Boogyman implies Jalen was highly effective with his downfield throwing for most of the season, but he’s struggled in the playoffs t  op this point so far.

I didn't imply anything, I gave the stats the guy asked for lol.

1 hour ago, Boogyman said:

I didn't imply anything, I gave the stats the guy asked for lol.

Well the point is Jalen’s been good throwing it deep this year, but he hasn’t been as sharp in the playoffs. Fortunately he has one more game to correct that issue. 

10 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Well the point is Jalen’s been good throwing it deep this year, but he hasn’t been as sharp in the playoffs. Fortunately he has one more game to correct that issue. 

The point is those numbers are fact. I didn't "imply" anything in my post.

Why is Hurts being nitpicked to death? I'm tired of hearing about how great Mahomes is, as if he's been lights out. Without some very beneficial calls/no calls, the Bengals are playing in the SB again this season.  If Hurts had thrown 3 INTs thus far into the playoffs, we'd never hear the end of how inaccurate, or how bad he is at reading a defense. But Mahomes does it, and "he's just on another level" or "he's going to shred us apart"

also, F Nick Wright! 😂

 

5 minutes ago, MF POON said:

Why is Hurts being nitpicked to death? I'm tired of hearing about how great Mahomes is, as if he's been lights out. Without some very beneficial calls/no calls, the Bengals are playing in the SB again this season.  If Hurts had thrown 3 INTs thus far into the playoffs, we'd never hear the end of how inaccurate, or how bad he is at reading a defense. But Mahomes does it, and "he's just on another level" or "he's going to shred us apart"

also, F Nick Wright! 😂

 

What the hell are you talking about.  Here are their playoff stats.  

Mahomes has been far better across the board.  And I do not see the 3 interceptions you are talking about.

 

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3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

What the hell are you talking about.  Here are their playoff stats.  

Mahomes has been far better across the board.  And I do not see the 3 interceptions you are talking about.

 

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lol, yeah I typed 2022 as it's the season we're in, but it brought up last years stats. Thanks for the clarification. I'll keep my argument but use Mahomes' SB stats instead, where he has 2 TDs and 4 INTs, yet everyone is talking about how he's unstoppable and more valuable to his team than Hurts. It's annoying AF

6 minutes ago, MF POON said:

lol, yeah I typed 2022 as it's the season we're in, but it brought up last years stats. Thanks for the clarification. I'll keep my argument but use Mahomes' SB stats instead, where he has 2 TDs and 4 INTs, yet everyone is talking about how he's unstoppable and more valuable to his team than Hurts. It's annoying AF

He is more valuable to his team than Hurts.  They traded away his #1 WR and he set a career high in passing yards, his second 5000 yard season, and led the league in TD's and QBR.

He has also been to at a minimum the AFCCG in all 5 years he has been the starter.

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

He is more valuable to his team than Hurts.  They traded away his #1 WR and he set a career high in passing yards, his second 5000 yard season, and led the league in TD's and QBR.

He has also been to at a minimum the AFCCG in all 5 years he has been the starter.

We saw Henne go in and have a 98 yd TD drive against Jax when Mahomes went out. Offense didn't miss a beat, and I think they beat Jax if Henne plays that entire game.  But apparently, all Patrick has is bums to throw to and only he makes them good? OK

We all saw Minshew for 2 games with this so called system offense of ours that Hurts is a product of, so I disagree with the point entirely. 

8 hours ago, olsilverhair said:

you're RTK clone, I knew it, thumper

Ok talk yourself outta it

22 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Thanks. Do you remember where that graphic was posted? I’ll go back and look for it 

Ok talk yourself Outta it

We're talking about this game, not that other game..this game...Brown..decisions, etc

14 minutes ago, MF POON said:

We saw Henne go in and have a 98 yd TD drive against Jax when Mahomes went out. Offense didn't miss a beat, and I think they beat Jax if Henne plays that entire game.  But apparently, all Patrick has is bums to throw to and only he makes them good? OK

We all saw Minshew for 2 games with this so called system offense of ours that Hurts is a product of, so I disagree with the point entirely. 

Henne threw for 23 yards on the 98 yard drive.  Pacheco ran for 57 of those yards.  Was that because of Henne's impact on the run game ??

 

 

9 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Henne threw for 23 yards on the 98 yard drive.  Pacheco ran for 57 of those yards.  Was that because of Henne's impact on the run game ??

 

 

Let me add you to the list of those I will troll relentlessly after we win lol

15 minutes ago, MF POON said:

Let me add you to the list of those I will troll relentlessly after we win lol

Why ??  I want the Philadelphia Eagles to defeat the Kansas City Chiefs.

You want Jalen Hurts to defeat Patrick Mahomes.

I don't care about the individual players, I care about the team.  

You should stop worrying about a guy you will never meet and who will never be your friend.

This is all you should worry about.

 

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One of the possible scenarios where we lose this game is if Jalen tries to out-Mahomes Mahomes. Jalen needs to be himself and just do his thing.

3 minutes ago, opa-opa said:

One of the possible scenarios where we lose this game is if Jalen tries to out-Mahomes Mahomes. Jalen needs to be himself and just do his thing.

According to some here Mahomes is a chump and we have nothing to worry about

27 minutes ago, opa-opa said:

One of the possible scenarios where we lose this game is if Jalen tries to out-Mahomes Mahomes. Jalen needs to be himself and just do his thing.

Brian Dawkins said as much on the Jim Rome show this morning.

He said Jalen needs to rely on the talent around him and not play hero ball.

He was sacked 38 times this year as opposed to Mahomes 26.

Probably not a good thing going into game.

27 minutes ago, HaroldJackson29 said:

He was sacked 38 times this year as opposed to Mahomes 26.

Probably not a good thing going into game.

Since they operate in different schemes, it would be interesting to see how many of Hurts's sacks came from tackles behind the line on run plays versus on passing plays. I would guess that the majority of Mahomes's sacks came from pass plays. Just challenging an apples to apples comparison based numbers alone

6 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

Since they operate in different schemes, it would be interesting to see how many of Hurts's sacks came from tackles behind the line on run plays versus on passing plays. I would guess that the majority of Mahomes's sacks came from pass plays. Just challenging an apples to apples comparison based numbers alone

They would credit that as a negative rushing yards play, not a sack.

Here is an example from the Giants playoff game.

 

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5 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

Since they operate in different schemes, it would be interesting to see how many of Hurts's sacks came from tackles behind the line on run plays versus on passing plays. I would guess that the majority of Mahomes's sacks came from pass plays. Just challenging an apples to apples comparison based numbers alone

 doesn't matter really. More sacks equals bad passing game. This is a  guy riding a wave while Mahomes is at his 3rd SB.

Think about that. Coach and player at 3rd SB in 4 years.

And you can't use the Bills as a example since KC has won. 

 

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

They would credit that as a negative rushing yards play, not a sack.

Here is an example from the Giants playoff game.

 

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TY for the clarification

4 minutes ago, HaroldJackson29 said:

 doesn't matter really. More sacks equals bad passing game. This is a  guy riding a wave while Mahomes is at his 3rd SB.

Think about that. Coach and player at 3rd SB in 4 years.

And you can't use the Bills as a example since KC has won. 

 

Not sure this is the same point. I was incorrect in my stats assumption as Mike pointed out. If we switch to a different lens, how about ANDY. What is the ratio of SB wins to conference championship games for ANDY? Frankly, I like those odds and you can't use that Nick S has no SB since you made the rule that you can't use certain info if you define what that info is.

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