May 3, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said: And the Biden Administration was clear in saying that they do not support a federal ban. But be outraged anyway. If people can be outraged about abortion being a state issue then they can be outraged about gas stoves being a state issue.
May 3, 20232 yr Just now, GreenReaper said: If people can be outraged about abortion being a state issue then they can be outraged about gas stoves being a state issue. That not what the selective outrage here.
May 4, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: That not what the selective outrage here. Take a deep breath and try this post again after you’ve had your nighttime soy milk.
May 4, 20232 yr 14 hours ago, mikemack8 said: Take a deep breath and try this post again after you’ve had your nighttime soy milk. dude, soy milk shaming is wrong.
May 4, 20232 yr 19 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: That not what the selective outrage here. That might the selective outrage.
May 6, 20232 yr Lol, between the high taxes and now this ban of natural gas in new buildings these politicians will be left wondering why businesses / new residents looking to build are not going to consider NY. We shall see how it works out for them.
May 6, 20232 yr Author I bet they are going to force builders to still install non-working gas lines to appease the plumbers unions so they don't piss off their donors like they did in Philly when they installed waterless urinals at the Comcast Center. https://www.contractormag.com/plumbing/article/20875371/waterless-compromise-reached-in-philly
May 6, 20232 yr 23 minutes ago, iladelphxx said: I bet they are going to force builders to still install non-working gas lines to appease the plumbers unions so they don't piss off their donors like they did in Philly when they installed waterless urinals at the Comcast Center. https://www.contractormag.com/plumbing/article/20875371/waterless-compromise-reached-in-philly Union strong. Lol.
May 6, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, iladelphxx said: I bet they are going to force builders to still install non-working gas lines to appease the plumbers unions so they don't piss off their donors like they did in Philly when they installed waterless urinals at the Comcast Center. https://www.contractormag.com/plumbing/article/20875371/waterless-compromise-reached-in-philly I wonder if people would then buy a gas stove Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Ohio, or some other nearby state and have it installed on those fake gas lines.
May 7, 20232 yr On 5/4/2023 at 12:17 PM, GreenReaper said: That might the selective outrage. Whatever the outrage is, the Biden administration is not looking into a nationwide gas stove ban.
May 7, 20232 yr Author 1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said: Whatever the outrage is, the Biden administration is not looking into a nationwide gas stove ban.
May 7, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, iladelphxx said: Point out the part or parts in the proposal that bans gas stoves nationwide.
May 7, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, iladelphxx said: If you read the proposal, it's about regulating out the use of pilot lights. Virtually no modern oven uses a pilot light. They're all electronically ignited. It would be like passing regulation in 2023 to that passenger vehicles shouldn't have carburators. If anything this is an example of government waste in passing regulations that will have no practical effect because the market already moved past this.
May 7, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: If you read the proposal, it's about regulating out the use of pilot lights. Virtually no modern oven uses a pilot light. They're all electronically ignited. It would be like passing regulation in 2023 to that passenger vehicles shouldn't have carburators. If anything this is an example of government waste in passing regulations that will have no practical effect because the market already moved past this. Yeah, that’s pretty what I read but thought maybe I was missing something. I haven’t seen a continuous flame pilot light in a very long time.
May 7, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: If you read the proposal, it's about regulating out the use of pilot lights. Virtually no modern oven uses a pilot light. They're all electronically ignited. It would be like passing regulation in 2023 to that passenger vehicles shouldn't have carburators. If anything this is an example of government waste in passing regulations that will have no practical effect because the market already moved past this. And linear power supplies. The DoE has even come out and stated that roughly half of the models of gas stoves would not meet the standard.
May 7, 20232 yr 30 minutes ago, BBE said: And linear power supplies. The DoE has even come out and stated that roughly half of the models of gas stoves would not meet the standard. I would imagine that the new standard would only be applies to manufacturing new stoves. Switching power supplies are smaller, lighter, and more efficient, through there are disadvantages when compared to linear. I don’t those disadvantages would make a difference in powering a gas stove.
May 7, 20232 yr 31 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: I would imagine that the new standard would only be applies to manufacturing new stoves. Switching power supplies are smaller, lighter, and more efficient, through there are disadvantages when compared to linear. I don’t those disadvantages would make a difference in powering a gas stove. It will require redesign which will mean an increase in price for the "new" models.
May 7, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, BBE said: And linear power supplies. The DoE has even come out and stated that roughly half of the models of gas stoves would not meet the standard. Will this make gas stoves (different than ranges and ovens but I digress) "functionally unaffordable" as the Twitter troll is claiming?
May 7, 20232 yr 59 minutes ago, BBE said: It will require redesign which will mean an increase in price for the "new" models. A switching PSU is more complex and therefore more expensive than a linear one but there is really no need to reinvent the wheel here.
May 8, 20232 yr On 5/6/2023 at 11:06 PM, Tnt4philly said: Whatever the outrage is, the Biden administration is not looking into a nationwide gas stove ban. Never said he was.
May 8, 20232 yr On 5/6/2023 at 12:39 AM, iladelphxx said: Are they coming into people's houses and taking your gas stoves? No.
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