December 16, 20205 yr Author 1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Um, yeah, guys I never said "working hard" was a bad thing. The point is that Americans tend to work harder for less, working more than their counterparts to eek out basic subsistence while others put in less time but have better standards of living. It isn't about fairness; it's about getting a reasonable return for how much time and energy you devote to professional pursuits, but if you want to twist things, I guess this is the place. You get what you agree to. Feel like it’s not enough find a different career.
December 16, 20205 yr 40 minutes ago, Gannan said: My company does really nice things like that. Even with Covid they will send us all door dash gift cards to order ourselves lunch and things like that. They will also send us amazon gift cards to say thanks for our work. We were talking about the importance of exercise in the other thread. The thing they sent out yesterday I think is brilliant. You can sign up to get a free apple watch up front, but there's payments. If you hit your exercise goal for the month, they make the payment for you. If you don't you pay. Very cool idea. Since I am enjoying getting out and exercising everyday I think I should have no problem hitting my goals. that's cool. My company is in health care (I work in systems myself) and the company gave bonuses to all the nurses working on the front lines. On my current software project I've received gifts from the vendor as well as my boss giving extra Amazon gift cards and stuff like that. When we were still in the office we had once a month gatherings for parties, happy hours, stuff like that. Our CEO is a bit of a mixologist and likes to make drinks for everyone. Much better than my last company which didn't make you feel at home, you were more a cog in the wheel and didn't seem valued. I decided to leave for something better. Much better pay and much better people to work for and better teammates.
December 16, 20205 yr 27 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I didn't say any of that. I just agree with him that our culture prioritizes working yourself to the bone to achieve a certain level of success that most people won't ever achieve. You can come at it from a philosophical position that working like a dog to accumulate stuff is a pretty hollow existence in the spiritual sense, or you can come at it from a more practical position that you've got it better than people in the past so you can't complain. For me personally, I'm fine with working all the time and work far more than I need to to achieve financial stability because I love what I do. But most people don't. I know you didn't. You were defending his statement, and I explained what we were all replying to. It's about choices. I hear how vikas works and I would never want to do that many hours and inflexible job. But I would know that's not a field I want to be in. I work from home 3 days a week even before COVID. I take off whenever I want to attend my son's school events, leave early for appointments or just take off early. Sometimes I work longer nights when certain projects or busy times of year require more hours. My boss and company are great about work/life balance. Not every job allows that kind of flexibility and people make choices about the industry they go into or the company they work for. Some of it is also cultural. I found that in Southern California it was more about work and achieving. Here in the South (You're in GA it might be similar) it's professional but I feel like more work/life balance and focus on family is more common and accepted.
December 16, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, NOTW said: They're jokes man (and posting pics in the pics thread). Meanwhile you've posted nonsense and drivel and keep moving the goal posts, changing the argument or throwing out childish straw men like this. Obviously, the sarcasm is lost on you. Anytime someone comes here with tepid criticism of American culture, you guys turn into attack dogs who must defend the honor of the USA as the unquestioned greatest country of all time. I never moved the goalposts. You either ignored, misunderstood, or misrepresented the main point of the post and instead seized on a factoid in order to distract from the basic logic of the post and turn things into an technical argument.
December 16, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, paco said: Ah... I see the problem. You thought you made a point. The problem is you failed to understand the point, but that's ok. I explain basic concepts to children for a living, so this is right in my wheelhouse.
December 17, 20205 yr Author 3 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Is that why they suck and privately paved parking lots do a better job?
December 17, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said: Is that why they suck and privately paved parking lots do a better job? Parking lots can do jobs? Damn, pass that pipe over here...
December 17, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, 20dawk4life said: Is that why they suck and privately paved parking lots do a better job?
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