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The recommended age was adjusted down to 45 for those even without family history or other risk factors. I don't know when it changed, but I know it was recent because it came up when I was talking to him about it.

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Routine screening for colorectal cancer should begin at age 45 instead of 50, an influential panel is recommending.

Starting routine screening five years earlier could prevent more deaths from colorectal cancer, which is the third-leading cause of cancer deaths in the United States, the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force concluded.

"Far too many people in the U.S. are not receiving this lifesaving preventive service," Dr. Michael Barry, the task force's vice chairperson, said in a statement. "We hope that this new recommendation to screen people ages 45 to 49, coupled with our long-standing recommendation to screen people 50 to 75, will prevent more people from dying from colorectal cancer

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/05/18/997926232/colorectal-cancer-screening-should-start-at-age-45-experts-recommend

24 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

The recommended age was adjusted down to 45 for those even without family history or other risk factors. I don't know when it changed, but I know it was recent because it came up when I was talking to him about it.

https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/colorectal/basic_info/screening/index.htm

It is up to your individual PCP what they suggest based off of knowing your medical history.  Not every physician follows CDC guidelines to a "T” Some even disagree with some of their recommendations.  Just because the CDC gives a guideline, it doesn’t mean that becomes standard practice across the board.  Again, you can look up all of the BS you want to online.  Your Dr is smarter than you, and would be more than happy to refer you for an a** rape before 50 if they felt it was necessary.  Docs generally take the side of caution, so if they’re not recommending it before 50, I’d trust their judgment.

2 minutes ago, bobeph said:

It is up to your individual PCP what they suggest based off of knowing your medical history.  Not every physician follows CDC guidelines to a "T” Some even disagree with some of their recommendations.  Just because the CDC gives a guideline, it doesn’t mean that becomes standard practice across the board.  Again, you can look up all of the BS you want to online.  Your Dr is smarter than you, and would be more than happy to refer you for an a** rape before 50 if they felt it was necessary.  Docs generally take the side of caution, so if they’re not recommending it before 50, I’d trust their judgment.

Sometimes is takes Dr's a while to adjust to new recommended standards. Its pretty common in medicine. Even someone who is really good in their field or profession can be set in their ways. 

Remember these guidelines  and recommendations are also made by Dr's using new research and statistics.

Just now, Boogyman said:

Sometimes is takes Dr's a while to adjust to new recommended standards. Its pretty common in medicine. Even someone who is really good in their field or profession can be set in their ways. 

Remember these guidelines  and recommendations are also made by Dr's using new research and statistics.

Again, my point is that the CDC issues "guidelines”.....Docs will practice how they see fit, and hopefully ethical.  Furthermore, one’s physical health can be compared to one’s financial well being here in the sense that what’s good for one person may not be necessary for another.  For example, it’s not good for a retiree to have an investment portfolio that is 85% allocated to aggressive investment vehicles.  However, a young buck just starting out can afford more risk.  Everyone’s situation is different.  When it comes to your health, your doc knows what’s best for you.  But if you’re some kind of hypochondriac and want a colonoscopy at 30 years old, I’m sure they’d refer you.

11 minutes ago, bobeph said:

It is up to your individual PCP what they suggest based off of knowing your medical history.  Not every physician follows CDC guidelines to a "T” Some even disagree with some of their recommendations.  Just because the CDC gives a guideline, it doesn’t mean that becomes standard practice across the board.  Again, you can look up all of the BS you want to online.  Your Dr is smarter than you, and would be more than happy to refer you for an a** rape before 50 if they felt it was necessary.  Docs generally take the side of caution, so if they’re not recommending it before 50, I’d trust their judgment.

I hear ya, just want to point out that this guidance just came out, so depending on when you last talked to your doc, they may not have even known about it. 

It's also not just the CDC or the advisory panel mentioned in the article, the American Cancer Society lists 45 on their site too. 

Another example, while the CDC was talking about a 6 foot social distancing during COVID, it got to a point where the Director of our County’s Health Dept. said that 3 feet was actually fine.  He got trashed and abused on social media by parents, school boards, etc... literally like 3 weeks later the CDC comes out and says that 3 feet is now good.  He disagreed with the CDC and made his own recommendations.

4 minutes ago, bobeph said:

Again, my point is that the CDC issues "guidelines”.....Docs will practice how they see fit, and hopefully ethical.  Furthermore, one’s physical health can be compared to one’s financial well being here in the sense that what’s good for one person may not be necessary for another.  For example, it’s not good for a retiree to have an investment portfolio that is 85% allocated to aggressive investment vehicles.  However, a young buck just starting out can afford more risk.  Everyone’s situation is different.  When it comes to your health, your doc knows what’s best for you.  But if you’re some kind of hypochondriac and want a colonoscopy at 30 years old, I’m sure they’d refer you.

I agree 100 percent. Just pointing out when standards are changed it sometimes takes a while for the new standards to be adopted by everyone, and that the new standards are also made by Dr's.  I would assume the docs on the boards that makes these decisions are among the best in their fields.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

I hear ya, just want to point out that this guidance just came out, so depending on when you last talked to your doc, they may not have even known about it. 

It's also not just the CDC or the advisory panel mentioned in the article, the American Cancer Society lists 45 on their site too. 

45 actually didn’t just come out (as in like the past month).  I heard that a while ago.  I want to say possibly a year?  Anyway, was just at my doc in April when we had this quick discussion.  And of course the ACS is going to be proactive about screening at a younger age.  Again, docs ALWAYS take the side of caution.  

1 minute ago, Boogyman said:

I agree 100 percent. Just pointing out when standards are changed it sometimes takes a while for the new standards to be adopted by everyone, and that the new standards are also made by Dr's.  I would assume the docs on the boards that makes these decisions are among the best in their fields.

True dat.

2 minutes ago, bobeph said:

Another example, while the CDC was talking about a 6 foot social distancing during COVID, it got to a point there the Director of our County’s Health Dept. said that 3 feet was actually fine.  He got trashed and abused on social media by parents, school boards, etc... literally like 3 weeks later the CDC comes out and says that 3 feet is now good.  He disagreed with the CDC and made his own recommendations.

Not quite analogous. We've got years of research and data dealing with colorectal cancer, and barely 14 months of the same with a novel coronavirus. But I agree that at the end of the day, these are merely guidelines and your physician's opinion can vary as they see fit. 

3 minutes ago, bobeph said:

45 actually didn’t just come out (as in like the past month).  I heard that a while ago.  I want to say possibly a year?  Anyway, was just at my doc in April when we had this quick discussion.  And of course the ACS is going to be proactive about screening at a younger age.  Again, docs ALWAYS take the side of caution.  

True dat.

I think it's the guidance from this advisory panel that's recent, possibly the CDC too. In any case, it's picking up steam and seems like it's a prudent thing to bring up and at least discuss with your doc if you're 45. 

51 minutes ago, bobeph said:

45 actually didn’t just come out (as in like the past month).  I heard that a while ago.  I want to say possibly a year?  Anyway, was just at my doc in April when we had this quick discussion.  And of course the ACS is going to be proactive about screening at a younger age.  Again, docs ALWAYS take the side of caution.  

True dat.

They are "guidelines" though, so each person might be different. I have a lot of cancer history in my family and I actually had polyps removed when I was younger.  At 42 I got a physical and check up and wanted to catch anything early. Dr said the 45 guideline and it's too early for colonoscopy but i can get one if i feel the need, so I waited on that. I did get bloodwork and prostate exam (all that was missing were white claws to make it a party). For me, I'm glad I checked things early and will continue to stay on top of it. You have to be your own advocate. My grandparents and Mom suffered from cancer and I don't want to go through the hell they did. Catching things early, plus healthy living for prevention  

6 minutes ago, NOTW said:

You have to be your own advocate.

^This

My initial point wasn't to go against your doctor's advice because you think you know better than them, or because you should be a hypochondriac, it's to be your own advocate, ask questions, and not to put off a recommended medical procedure that is one of the most commonly delayed among Americans and also has one of the most significant potential consequences.

35 minutes ago, NOTW said:

They are "guidelines" though, so each person might be different. I have a lot of cancer history in my family and I actually had polyps removed when I was younger.  At 42 I got a physical and check up and wanted to catch anything early. Dr said the 45 guideline and it's too early for colonoscopy but i can get one if i feel the need, so I waited on that. I did get bloodwork and prostate exam (all that was missing were white claws to make it a party). For me, I'm glad I checked things early and will continue to stay on top of it. You have to be your own advocate. My grandparents and Mom suffered from cancer and I don't want to go through the hell they did. Catching things early, plus healthy living for prevention  

Exactly, a family history makes you a great candidate for early screening.

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Suck it Chy-na!

4 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Suck it Chy-na!

Yes!  Biden did it!

Just now, VanHammersly said:

Yes!  Biden did it!

Immigration > tariffs  :towel:

26 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Suck it Chy-na!

This is fake news... In fact, this isn't even one of the US teams from the International Math Olympiad, which doesn't take place until July. I believe that this photo is from a 2017 chemistry olympiad.

The U.S. won the math olympiad in 2015, 2016, 2018, and U.S. and China tied in 2019.

China won in 2020, but the last time they won before that was 2014 (but they won a ton between 1989 and 2014- they won 19 titles to the US's 1 in that time frame- 1986 was the first time China competed)

46 minutes ago, NothingClever said:

This is fake news... In fact, this isn't even one of the US teams from the International Math Olympiad, which doesn't take place until July. I believe that this photo is from a 2017 chemistry olympiad.

The U.S. won the math olympiad in 2015, 2016, 2018, and U.S. and China tied in 2019.

China won in 2020, but the last time they won before that was 2014 (but they won a ton between 1989 and 2014- they won 19 titles to the US's 1 in that time frame- 1986 was the first time China competed)

Idk man just saw the tweet 🤷‍♂️

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3 hours ago, NOTW said:

Suck it Chy-na!

So why are they holding the American flag?  Is it like trading jerseys after a game?

 

 

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