July 2, 20215 yr On 6/30/2021 at 3:10 PM, Green Dog said: Ahem... Way too gullible.... wake up, guys. Are you trying to say a lot of the democrats didn't want to "defund the police"?
July 2, 20215 yr 43 minutes ago, greend said: Are you trying to say a lot of the democrats didn't want to "defund the police"? I'm pretty sure it was about his crush on the metro doing the spinning for the Dems, rather than anything Wallace had to say.
July 2, 20215 yr 51 minutes ago, greend said: Are you trying to say a lot of the democrats didn't want to "defund the police"? They never wanted to "defund the police". "Defund the police" was the stupidest buzz word the Repubs ever came up with last year, and it obviously worked with their base and even some of the more fringe liberal segments. That doesn't make it any less stupid. To your point, obviously there were a lot of issues with police reform that had already been circulating for years and obviously came to a head with the unusual number of killings last summer and the response by BLM. Yes, some left wing extremists made insane comments, some law makers even suggested unusual stuff, but there was never a Congress backed mandate or a proposed bill to outright reduce or even limit spending on Police or law enforcement. So no, there was never a Dem backed push to "defund the police". And in fact, as the Fox News host in the video said above, the most recent bill the Dems have brought forward includes over $350B specifically to fund the Police, in various ways. Which, btw, every single Repub, has voted against.
July 2, 20215 yr Defund the police didn't originate with Republicans. It was a gift to Republicans from moronic left wingers.
July 2, 20215 yr 12 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Defund the police didn't originate with Republicans. It was a gift to Republicans from moronic left wingers. Shh. Don't interrupt him - he's building his case...
July 2, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, sameaglesfan said: Shh. Don't interrupt him - he's building his case... He's not wrong that the proposals that Biden and most Democrats have endorsed and actually been working to pass are for additional funding for the police. Biden has never been a #defundthepolice pol. And it's also true that it was a minority of Dems that vocally supported the defund movement. But it most certainly originated on the left. I argued with my left wing buddies about how horrible it was as a slogan, even if you thought it was good policy. "If you're explaining, you're losing."
July 2, 20215 yr Where exactly did it originate, if not as a re-purposed response by the right? Honestly, I don't remember any legit law makers even suggesting it (read: straight defunding) as a platform. I'd be happy to be proved wrong.
July 2, 20215 yr 19 minutes ago, Green Dog said: Where exactly did it originate, if not as a re-purposed response by the right? Honestly, I don't remember any legit law makers even suggesting it (read: straight defunding) as a platform. I'd be happy to be proved wrong. Tlaib (D-Mich.) and fellow squad members Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.) had issued statements calling out racial injustice in response to Wright’s death. "It wasn’t an accident. Policing in our country is inherently & intentionally racist. Daunte Wright was met with aggression & violence,” Tlaib wrote in a tweet Monday evening. "I am done with those who condone government-funded murder. No more policing, incarceration, and militarization. It can’t be reformed,” she continued, reiterating her position that the police, as currently trained, cannot protect their communities and must be defunded and replaced.”
July 2, 20215 yr 55 minutes ago, Green Dog said: Where exactly did it originate, if not as a re-purposed response by the right? Honestly, I don't remember any legit law makers even suggesting it (read: straight defunding) as a platform. I'd be happy to be proved wrong. Looks li8ke an RNC meeting to me
July 2, 20215 yr 11 minutes ago, sameaglesfan said: Looks li8ke an RNC meeting to me Show me the Dem pols in that pic.
July 2, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, Green Dog said: They never wanted to "defund the police". "Defund the police" was the stupidest buzz word the Repubs ever came up with last year, and it obviously worked with their base and even some of the more fringe liberal segments. That doesn't make it any less stupid. To your point, obviously there were a lot of issues with police reform that had already been circulating for years and obviously came to a head with the unusual number of killings last summer and the response by BLM. Yes, some left wing extremists made insane comments, some law makers even suggested unusual stuff, but there was never a Congress backed mandate or a proposed bill to outright reduce or even limit spending on Police or law enforcement. So no, there was never a Dem backed push to "defund the police". And in fact, as the Fox News host in the video said above, the most recent bill the Dems have brought forward includes over $350B specifically to fund the Police, in various ways. Which, btw, every single Repub, has voted against.
July 2, 20215 yr 42 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said: Tlaib (D-Mich.) and fellow squad members Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.) had issued statements calling out racial injustice in response to Wright’s death. "It wasn’t an accident. Policing in our country is inherently & intentionally racist. Daunte Wright was met with aggression & violence,” Tlaib wrote in a tweet Monday evening. "I am done with those who condone government-funded murder. No more policing, incarceration, and militarization. It can’t be reformed,” she continued, reiterating her position that the police, as currently trained, cannot protect their communities and must be defunded and replaced.” And I would imagine that since then those members have discussed law enforcement again. Do we know what they've said? Is it still "defund the police" or nothing?
July 2, 20215 yr 10 minutes ago, Green Dog said: And I would imagine that since then those members have discussed law enforcement again. Do we know what they've said? Is it still "defund the police" or nothing? Yes, they want to move on from defund to reform.
July 2, 20215 yr 29 minutes ago, greend said: I don't pretend to support AOC at all. She's nuts. However... "The White House (Trump) is taking you on for supporting the "defund the police" movement." That's called framing the argument.
July 2, 20215 yr 20 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said: Yes, they want to move on from defund to reform. Yup. Including $350B in funding. Next?
July 2, 20215 yr 11 minutes ago, paco said: This is a very strange hill to die on. Posting a political meme about a debunked theory has consequences.
July 2, 20215 yr It’s an opinion piece with factual info. stated by Obama and the Defund Police slogan. The leftwing brainiacs are definitely responsible for this one. Layup for right wing nuts. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3850652001
July 2, 20215 yr The Dems were complete idiots from the start just by using the phrase "defund the police". It seems like they just like to sabotage themselves politically. If you mean "reform", then just use the word reform.
July 2, 20215 yr 40 minutes ago, bobeph said: It’s an opinion piece with factual info. stated by Obama and the Defund Police slogan. The leftwing brainiacs are definitely responsible for this one. Layup for right wing nuts. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3850652001 Agreed, great opinion piece. Read it twice and still cannot find where it says any lawmaker used the words "defund the police" or even insinuate it. It says: Obama criticized it (and got flack). AOC said, "Protests should be uncomfortable" (whatever tf that means - but it doesn't mean stop funding cops ffs), and Pressley talked about police abuse and the history of it. Now, if by "leftwing brainiacs", you are talking about ordinary citizens making signs that read "DEFUND POLICE", you have no f'n argument from me. They were morons. My rebuttal was simply in response to @greend's question that any "Democrats", ie: lawmakers, wanted to defund law enforcement. Which, btw, there were, and are none.
July 2, 20215 yr Author 4 minutes ago, Green Dog said: Agreed, great opinion piece. Read it twice and still cannot find where it says any lawmaker used the words "defund the police" or even insinuate it. It says: Obama criticized it (and got flack). AOC said, "Protests should be uncomfortable" (whatever tf that means - but it doesn't mean stop funding cops ffs), and Pressley talked about police abuse and the history of it. Now, if by "leftwing brainiacs", you are talking about ordinary citizens making signs that read "DEFUND POLICE", you have no f'n argument from me. They were morons. My rebuttal was simply in response to @greend's question that any "Democrats", ie: lawmakers, wanted to defund law enforcement. Which, btw, there were, and are none. Ilhan Omar said it’s not a slogan it’s a policy. Others have endorsed it without saying it directly. The dems own this.
July 2, 20215 yr 6 minutes ago, Green Dog said: Agreed, great opinion piece. Read it twice and still cannot find where it says any lawmaker used the words "defund the police" or even insinuate it. It says: Obama criticized it (and got flack). AOC said, "Protests should be uncomfortable" (whatever tf that means - but it doesn't mean stop funding cops ffs), and Pressley talked about police abuse and the history of it. Now, if by "leftwing brainiacs", you are talking about ordinary citizens making signs that read "DEFUND POLICE", you have no f'n argument from me. They were morons. My rebuttal was simply in response to @greend's question that any "Democrats", ie: lawmakers, wanted to defund law enforcement. Which, btw, there were, and are none. I posted a video of a democrat that wants to do it. Did you watch it?
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