1 hour ago, Redden said:

Agent, this really is a terrible way to lose a Championship match.  But on the other hand, look how much joy it brings to the rest of us. 

Depending on the results (Mach is a fake commish so his comments below don't count), I'm fairly certain none of us would forget the year it took a player dying on the field to keep me from retaking the Title. 

1 hour ago, hukdonfoniks said:

So with my main big money league just about dead at this point, me and two buddies of mine are forming a new league next year. 

The three of us are forming a high council, if you will.  There can be no ties, we discuss and debate collectively, and everything is handled via majority vote. 

As such, the three of us had an extensive text conversation yesterday about how we would handle this situation if it was up to us.  We came up with many solid ideas that we felt was the fairest way to address the fallout from all this.  

I can safely say that none of Agent's ideas were one of them

 

EDIT:  The high council part wasn't a dig at @Machine at all, although it's pretty funny

Curious (independent from this league) what your discussions were.

There still a chance the NFL plays this game, and the other strong option I have seen is that anyone who had a Bills of Bengals player in their lineup in the Championship round would just insert the points those players score in their Week 18 NFL game. From my vantage point, Higgins (inadvertently) murdered a guy, so while he's one of my 2 players, I could 100% see a scenario where he sits out the team's final regular season game (in which case, pretty much any chance of me winning in this league goes away). 

16 minutes ago, paco said:

For once you nailed it as commish!  

this is the worst take in this thread in the past few days. Mach goes out of his way to address the unprecedented nature of the leagues decision to stop the game, yet is planning on doing zilch unprecedented from a fantasy/commissioner standpoint. What was played Monday night (as of now) is not even officially closed out or finalized in NFL record books, so its 100% NOT the same as if a player got injured or left the game because the STATS from those scenarios are real in cemented in NFL history books. 100% different from what the current situation is.  

5 minutes ago, Agent23 said:

Depending on the results (Mach is a fake commish so his comments below don't count), I'm fairly certain none of us would forget the year it took a player dying on the field to keep me from retaking the Title. 

You were down in the projections at the time of the cancelation  

 

Oh, but that game would like, totally have been a super dooper shootout so I won if you really think about it

5 minutes ago, paco said:

You were down in the projections at the time of the cancelation  

 

Oh, but that game would like, totally have been a super dooper shootout so I won if you really think about it

I was down 33pts going into Monday's matchup. Higgins season average was 14.6ppg and Mixon's was 17.1. Higgins 14.6 average includes 2 games where he had 0pts because he was pulled out of both games early for health reasons. So in games where he was on the field, he averaged 16.9. Him and Mixon combine for 34ppg average. This game was going to be a shootout (hell, the Bengals offense was killing the Bills defense... literally), and the projections (prior to kickoff) were showing the final to be within 3-4 points, which is far too close to be like "you were down in projections". Its not like I was down 40 points with Russell Wilson in at QB. 

8 minutes ago, Agent23 said:

I was down 33pts going into Monday's matchup. Higgins season average was 14.6ppg and Mixon's was 17.1. Higgins 14.6 average includes 2 games where he had 0pts because he was pulled out of both games early for health reasons. So in games where he was on the field, he averaged 16.9. Him and Mixon combine for 34ppg average. This game was going to be a shootout (hell, the Bengals offense was killing the Bills defense... literally), and the projections (prior to kickoff) were showing the final to be within 3-4 points, which is far too close to be like "you were down in projections". Its not like I was down 40 points with Russell Wilson in at QB. 

 

And remained that spread 2/3's of the way through the first quarter right before that super amazing shootout that was JUST about to happen!

 

 

 

 

 

This is not a money league. No one cares. 

Youre gonna spend the next 10 years telling us how you won the championship anyway. 

41 minutes ago, Agent23 said:

Depending on the results (Mach is a fake commish so his comments below don't count), I'm fairly certain none of us would forget the year it took a player dying on the field to keep me from retaking the Title. 

Curious (independent from this league) what your discussions were.

There still a chance the NFL plays this game, and the other strong option I have seen is that anyone who had a Bills of Bengals player in their lineup in the Championship round would just insert the points those players score in their Week 18 NFL game. From my vantage point, Higgins (inadvertently) murdered a guy, so while he's one of my 2 players, I could 100% see a scenario where he sits out the team's final regular season game (in which case, pretty much any chance of me winning in this league goes away). 

this is the worst take in this thread in the past few days. Mach goes out of his way to address the unprecedented nature of the leagues decision to stop the game, yet is planning on doing zilch unprecedented from a fantasy/commissioner standpoint. What was played Monday night (as of now) is not even officially closed out or finalized in NFL record books, so its 100% NOT the same as if a player got injured or left the game because the STATS from those scenarios are real in cemented in NFL history books. 100% different from what the current situation is.  

This won't be of any benefit to you, I'm afraid, since this is a free league and there's no money to chop up. 

But I'll indulge you if you'd like.  My offering to the conversation was this:
 

Clearly you have a matchup here for championship participants that is incomplete.  You have no way of knowing if that game would result in a win or a loss for you - that is the nature of the fantasy game that can't be avoided. 

So what I proposed is that you take the prize money, and shave a nominal amount off the top.  Split the bulk of the money 50/50 between the two teams.  This way, assuming the split was done correctly, both teams get a financial benefit from being in the championship.  With the remaining amount you took off the top, you give it to the team that had the most regular season points.  Since you have control over your lineup every week, you have control over how many regular season points you scored.  That, to me, is the only fair metric to use and total points are used as an immediate tiebreaker anyway when it comes to standing. 

Both teams win some, the better overall scoring team gets a bonus, and that's a wrap.  Otherwise you can't do too much else.  Can't predict what the future of the game would've been, and you can't use the results we have on hand to decide a winner.

@Agent23 lost but morally he won, if you really think about it. 

 

Congrats @Agent23

Agent was convinced he should have won last year too.  In some weird convuluted way of not keeping score like we do. 

Here's how much I care. I was planning to relinquish commish duties and possibly even stop the league. It's been a good run. I obviously can't manage this league at the level you want anymore. Or maybe never did.  You realize whatever decision I make here won't please everyone.

A good compromise is when both parties are unhappy.  Binky is upset she has to listen to you whine about her winning and you're upset you didn't win because a player almost DIED ON THE FIELD and the game was cancelled. Sorry I didn't plan for this possibility. You were like 7-7 bro. Binky deserved this title anyway. 

8 minutes ago, Machine said:

Agent was convinced he should have won last year too.  In some weird convuluted way of not keeping score like we do. 

Here's how much I care. I was planning to relinquish commish duties and possibly even stop the league. It's been a good run. I obviously can't manage this league at the level you want anymore. Or maybe never did.  You realize whatever decision I make here won't please everyone.

A good compromise is when both parties are unhappy.  Binky is upset she has to listen to you whine about her winning and you're upset you didn't win because a player almost DIED ON THE FIELD and the game was cancelled. Sorry I didn't plan for this possibility. You were like 7-7 bro. Binky deserved this title anyway. 

I can promise you that you could not be more wrong here  

So who's kicking off the nomination process for new commish

 

1 minute ago, hukdonfoniks said:

So who's kicking off the nomination process for new commish

 

I mean, @Machine FINALLY gets it right and wants to quit  

13 minutes ago, Machine said:

Agent was convinced he should have won last year too.  In some weird convuluted way of not keeping score like we do. 

Here's how much I care. I was planning to relinquish commish duties and possibly even stop the league. It's been a good run. I obviously can't manage this league at the level you want anymore. Or maybe never did.  You realize whatever decision I make here won't please everyone.

A good compromise is when both parties are unhappy.  Binky is upset she has to listen to you whine about her winning and you're upset you didn't win because a player almost DIED ON THE FIELD and the game was cancelled. Sorry I didn't plan for this possibility. You were like 7-7 bro. Binky deserved this title anyway. 

the current commish doesn;t even know what happened. The game was POSTPONED, may still be played (in which case the points would retroactively get applied), and in case where the game may not get completed, many leagues (listed on sites like ESPN and Sleeper) are considering using the fantasy points scored by Bills players vs NE and Bengals players vs BAL. 

I'm commish in a yahoo league - I was in the championship, down by 20 but had 3 players going to his 2 in that game.  It currently has my opponent listed as the winner/champ, but also lists a disclaimer on the website that it could be changed.  

sorry to hear you use yahoo

4 minutes ago, Agent23 said:

the current commish doesn;t even know what happened. The game was POSTPONED, may still be played (in which case the points would retroactively get applied), and in case where the game may not get completed, many leagues (listed on sites like ESPN and Sleeper) are considering using the fantasy points scored by Bills players vs NE and Bengals players vs BAL. 

I don't think it can be counted anyway because there is no way to know if the game would have gone the same as it would have that night, and potentially they sit guys anyway making your entire argument moot. Especially if it's a short week why risk it. 

Say we do that and you winz lol, maybe the condition was better and therefore binky then has a gripe because potentially had the game been played that night, it would have gone her way. 

Play as it as it lies. I had to hit it off Frankenstein's fat foot. 

8 minutes ago, paco said:

I mean, @Machine FINALLY gets it right and wants to quit  

In my defense it was already planned to discuss and I already talked about it last year. 

I'm not against it. I'm also not against passing it to a trusted source. 

5 minutes ago, Agent23 said:

sorry to hear you use yahoo

I don't mind it - use it for both football and baseball 

25 minutes ago, Machine said:

and the game was cancelled

The game has not been cancelled, and there is a possible plan in place to resume the game.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Agent23 said:

the current commish doesn;t even know what happened. The game was POSTPONED, may still be played (in which case the points would retroactively get applied), and in case where the game may not get completed, many leagues (listed on sites like ESPN and Sleeper) are considering using the fantasy points scored by Bills players vs NE and Bengals players vs BAL. 

Do you really believe they're going to play that game? Lol when???

Give me a break. They're not moving the super bowl. 

Just now, Machine said:

I don't think it can be counted anyway because there is no way to know if the game would have gone the same as it would have that night, and potentially they sit guys anyway making your entire argument moot. Especially if it's a short week why risk it. 

Say we do that and you winz lol, maybe the condition was better and therefore binky then has a gripe because potentially had the game been played that night, it would have gone her way. 

Play as it as it lies. I had to hit it off Frankenstein's fat foot. 

The fact that we don't know what would happen is why I've said from the beginning that it should be a draw. The conclusion is indeterminate. I've said the same thing in a work league where I was down 3 points with Josh Allen at QB (them with nobody) and at one point this year my PF was 194 points higher than the second most PF. Nobody doubts that my team with Josh Allen would have comfortably won (he scored 2 of the 3 points off a FG drive) but maybe Allen has 3 consecutive INTs or breaks his leg -- we don't know so it winds up a draw (unless the game gets played at a later date or they decide to go with week 18 player stats). 

1 minute ago, Machine said:

Do you really believe they're going to play that game? Lol when???

Give me a break. They're not moving the super bowl. 

there is a built in BYE week that allows NOT-SCHEDULED wild card, divisonal round, and conference championships to be moved back a week and the super bowl stay the same.

You're also on here talking about how "a guy almost died". You think any NFL team or player is going to publicly come out and criticize if playoffs move back 1 week and their theoretical-super bowl team doesnt get a BYE (along with their opponent in that hypothetical super bowl match also not getting a BYE)?!? Of course not! They league/players would all publicly state the extreme nature of the situation and understand the leagues decision to allow the game to be played at a time/date where is physically safe for playoff-bound teams to compete. 

Best answer is forfeit the game and move on. Call it a tie. Who cares.  Wah wah.

Don't inconvenience the rest of everything for this half meaningless game. What if, someone loses and Bengals or bills clinch....  ?  Why should this game even be played ?

Just now, Machine said:

Best answer is forfeit the game and move on. Call it a tie. Who cares.  Wah wah.

Don't inconvenience the rest of everything for this half meaningless game. What if, someone loses and Bengals or bills clinch....  ?  Why should this game even be played ?

To be honest I'm absolutely shocked the game wasn't played the next day. 

4 minutes ago, Machine said:

To be honest I'm absolutely shocked the game wasn't played the next day. 

agreed tbh. When they announced sometime that night that the Bills were flying back home (not that its a long flight) I was a bit shocked... though I could see players wanting the comfort of home/family as soon as the league decided to not assign the game to the following evening. 

1 minute ago, Agent23 said:

agreed tbh. When they announced sometime that night that the Bills were flying back home (not that its a long flight) I was a bit shocked... though I could see players wanting the comfort of home/family as soon as the league decided to not assign the game to the following evening. 

It's interesting and it sucks it effects ( affect or effect I can never get this one right) so many fantasy championships too. 

5 minutes ago, Machine said:

It's interesting and it sucks it effects ( affect or effect I can never get this one right) so many fantasy championships too. 

I think its affect in this case, but english class was for losers!

Even though I knew the game affected me in 3 separate championships, it wasn't until early Wednesday that I even started thinking/caring about Fantasy (essentially once it seemed like there is a strong probability Hamlin will be able to recover). But even I spent 48hours or so not thinking twice about being down in 3 winnable championships (only person left in any of the matchups with remaining players).