October 23, 20241 yr obama (wears tan suit): trump (expresses admiration for hitler): it's baked into the vote
October 23, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, paco said: So.... what's the problem with continuing to require an ID to vote every time after then? So do away with mail-in voting? I'm just really curious why this is a big deal to people. Are we all implying that non-registered people are voting for registered people? Why? All of the coordination required for that would be insane.
October 23, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Paul852 said: So do away with mail-in voting? I'm just really curious why this is a big deal to people. Are we all implying that non-registered people are voting for registered people? Why? All of the coordination required for that would be insane. You use your drivers license\ID to obtain a mail in ballot.
October 23, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, paco said: You use your drivers license to obtain a mail in ballot. Ok, I'm trying to understand the argument because I thought it was to compare the person on the ID to the person voting. That's not the issue? Because anyone can put a license number into a web application.
October 23, 20241 yr It is what Trump Says that makes me think he's fascist Notzee. Not what Dems say since 1948.
October 23, 20241 yr 20 minutes ago, paco said: Let's compare their art next Well Hitler worked in water colors, and Trump works in ketchup...
October 23, 20241 yr 22 minutes ago, paco said: So.... what's the problem with continuing to require an ID to vote every time after then? Because I have absolutely no security concerns with our election process, this issue is so low on my radar. I really don’t care either way, but I’d err on the side of not possibly infringing on someone’s right to vote. I believe that the number of people whose right to vote would be lost or seriously infringed on, far outweigh the number of fraudulent votes are cast.
October 23, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Ok, I'm trying to understand the argument because I thought it was to compare the person on the ID to the person voting. That's not the issue? Because anyone can put a license number into a web application. Registered voters must provide approved ID when they apply for their mail ballot. The most commonly used IDs are a current, valid Pennsylvania driver's license or a state-issued photo ID. If you don't have one of those, you can provide: the last 4 digits of your Social Security number U.S. passport U.S. military ID Employee photo ID issued by federal, state, Pennsylvania county, or Pennsylvania municipal government Photo ID issued by an accredited Pennsylvania public or private institution of higher learning Photo ID issued by a Pennsylvania care facility, such as long-term care facilities and assisted living homes
October 23, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Procus said: There is a LOT of election fraud. Only you're too dense to realize how many very powerful people stand to lose big if Trump wins. Think Epstein. Yes, yes, the very much still alive Jeffrey Epstein certainly has a lot to lose if Trump wins. At least we agree on this, Procus.
October 23, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Ok, I'm trying to understand the argument because I thought it was to compare the person on the ID to the person voting. That's not the issue? Because anyone can put a license number into a web application. If you need an ID to register to vote, what is the issue with requiring an ID to vote each time after is the question I asked. Said "and do away with mail in voting". But you need an ID to get a mail in ballot, so that counter point is a non starter. So again, what is the issue with checking a persons ID when they go to vote if they needed one to register in the first place. The pushback against it is weird.
October 23, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: Because I have absolutely no security concerns with our election process, this issue is so low on my radar. I really don’t care either way, but I’d err on the side of not possibly infringing on someone’s right to vote. I believe that the number of people whose right to vote would be lost or seriously infringed on, far outweigh the number of fraudulent votes are cast. Ok, but how is it infringing on their right to vote when they needed that exact same ID to register the first time? Outside of an unfortunate accident of losing your ID the day of, I just don't see it as a barrier at all.
October 23, 20241 yr More good news for Harris. On first day of early voting, Wisconsinites cast more than 97k ballots in 'unheard of turnout' More than 97,000 Wisconsin voters turned out on the first day of early in-person absentee voting Tuesday, according to the Wisconsin Elections Commission. Elections Commission Chairwoman Ann Jacobs posted on X Tuesday night that so many people voted that it overloaded the state computer system and prompted the need for more server space. "We apologize for underestimating the incredible enthusiasm you all have for voting," she wrote. "This is unheard of turnout for the first day of in-person absentee voting!! All is well in our WisVote system and you should be able to vote without a problem." Even before early voting began, the city Election Commission had mailed more than 44,000 absentee ballots and received 23,415 in return.
October 23, 20241 yr people in urban (usually dem) areas are less likely to have a driver's license due to reliance on public transportation. i believe that's part of the argument. idk what other forms of id are acceptable though...or how difficult they are to obtain.
October 23, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, paco said: If you need an ID to register to vote, what is the issue with requiring an ID to vote each time after is the question I asked. Said "and do away with mail in voting". But you need an ID to get a mail in ballot, so that counter point is a non starter. So again, what is the issue with checking a persons ID when they go to vote if they needed one to register in the first place. The pushback against it is weird. No, the pushback against it isn't weird. To suggest people who registered to vote with a valid ID plan to just let someone else vote in their place is weird. We've wasted millions of dollars investigating this and now we want to waste even more time and money to implement a solution we don't need.
October 23, 20241 yr Just now, mr_hunt said: people in urban (usually dem) areas are less likely to have a driver's license due to reliance on public transportation. i believe that's part of the argument. idk what other forms of id are acceptable though...or how difficult they are to obtain. Right, but if they want to register to vote they need SOME form of ID right? So that argument is also a non starter.
October 23, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, mr_hunt said: people in urban (usually dem) areas are less likely to have a driver's license due to reliance on public transportation. i believe that's part of the argument. idk what other forms of id are acceptable though...or how difficult they are to obtain. The logistics of committing fraud make zero sense. Anybody who actually uses their brain on this one would realize how ridiculous the entire thing is.
October 23, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Paul852 said: No, the pushback against it isn't weird. To suggest people who registered to vote with a valid ID plan to just let someone else vote in their place is weird. We've wasted millions of dollars investigating this and now we want to waste even more time and money to implement a solution we don't need. yeah. i mean...you'd have to be an unregistered person voting under a registered voter's name, i guess. i don't think that happens very often.
October 23, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, paco said: Right, but if they want to register to vote they need SOME form of ID right? So that argument is also a non starter. They don’t need an id. All you need is last four digits of SS#
October 23, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Paul852 said: To suggest people who registered to vote with a valid ID plan to just let someone else vote in their place is weird. I don't think I've ever heard anyone suggest THAT 2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: yeah. i mean...you'd have to be an unregistered person voting under a registered voter's name, i guess. i don't think that happens very often. This I've seen. Or something along the lines of Circle Jerk Member #7 knows his neighbor isn't voting, so goes into the polling station and claims to be them to get additional votes for their candidate. Taking 2 seconds to look at an ID is a low cost way to prevent fraud.
October 23, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, paco said: Right, but if they want to register to vote they need SOME form of ID right? So that argument is also a non starter. well, your face is a non starter but you don't see me making a big deal about it.
October 23, 20241 yr All these poor, pathetic babies have is stolen election lies, which of course, makes them think the election will be stolen, otherwise, why would they be talking about it.
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