November 3, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Diehardfan said: Lol so some lady nobody has heard of is ahead of 538 and all the others and is beyond reproach. Sure, she is hahhahah. They said the Dems would be releasing BS polls amd we are seeing them. Ann Selzer is not a nobody. She's widely regarded as one of the most accurate and honest pollsters around, especially in her home state of Iowa. Her company is among the highest rated pollsters by 538. Could very well be an outlier poll. Could also be catching independents breaking for Harris late. But every four years some poll gets a name for being fairly accurate that cycle, then the next cycle they are bonkers off (Trafalgar in 2016 for example). Selzer has been consistently within the margin of error every polling cycle since 2008. If this is an outlier, it's an outlier for Selzer in a very long track record of success - accuracy that has been even more impressive in her home state.
November 3, 20241 yr Hey new reality show, where they cut the balls off guys with balls so tiny, no one even knew they existed.
November 3, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Ann Selzer is not a nobody. She's widely regarded as one of the most accurate and honest pollsters around, especially in her home state of Iowa. Her company is among the highest rated pollsters by 538. Could very well be an outlier poll. Could also be catching independents breaking for Harris late. But every four years some poll gets a name for being fairly accurate that cycle, then the next cycle they are bonkers off (Trafalgar in 2016 for example). Selzer has been consistently within the margin of error every polling cycle since 2008. If this is an outlier, it's an outlier for Selzer in a very long track record of success - accuracy that has been even more impressive in her home state. So every poll but her is wrong here lol. Major BS. Harris hasn't been there for a reason.
November 3, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: So every poll but her is wrong here lol. Major BS. Harris hasn't been there for a reason. No one says that. He said, she HAS BEEN historically accurate. It is a simple concept. Do you get it?
November 3, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Toastrel said: No one says that. He said, she HAS BEEN historically accurate. It is a simple concept. Do you get it? Has been but won't be after that. Harris nor her VP have been there. Get that? This is intentional
November 3, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: So every poll but her is wrong here lol. Major BS. Harris hasn't been there for a reason. Look, this could well be that she had a non-representative sample. If you poll 800 different sets of people a dozen or more times you're gonna get one or two that show outliers. Selzer is one of the few that doesn't adjust their polling to fit expectations. I tend to believe that's what this is - she happened to hit on a sample more receptive to Harris than will be the case statewide. Doesn't make her a bad pollster. Indeed, regardless of how this election shakes out she'll retired being considered one of the best to do it. That said, there's very interesting stuff coming out of this poll. Where independents previously were Trump leaning they broke for Harris - especially among women. Including women 65+. From the poll: Independent voters, who had consistently supported Trump in the leadup to this election, now break for Harris. That's driven by the strength of independent women, who back Harris by a 28-point margin, while independent men support Trump, but by a smaller margin. Similarly, senior voters who are 65 and older favor Harris. But senior women support her by a more than 2-to-1 margin, 63% to 28%, while senior men favor her by just 2 percentage points, 47% to 45%.
November 3, 20241 yr Nate Silver on Selzer's poll: https://www.natesilver.net/p/a-shocking-iowa-poll-means-somebody
November 3, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Has been but won't be after that. Harris nor her VP have been there. Get that? This is intentional You've got some flecks of foam at the corners of your mouth there, sonny.
November 3, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Toastrel said: You've got some flecks of foam at the corners of your mouth there, sonny. You've got crap in your Depends again
November 3, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: You've got crap in your Depends again As always you logic is deeply flawed. It assumes republicans arent going to vote for her
November 3, 20241 yr 20 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: As always you logic is deeply flawed. It assumes republicans arent going to vote for her Pretty much. I've got 3 "Republicans for Harris" signs in my neighborhood alone. Registration status doesn't mean nearly as much in this election as it has in the past.
November 3, 20241 yr 46 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: As always you logic is deeply flawed. It assumes republicans arent going to vote for her I think more Republicans are going to vote for her in general. But the real needle mover so far seems to be Republican women.
November 3, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: I think more Republicans are going to vote for her in general. But the real needle mover so far seems to be Republican women. I said that all along. College educated women are the single biggest swing demographic and they rightfully turned on trump and his stooges
November 3, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said: So every poll but her is wrong here lol. Major BS. Harris hasn't been there for a reason. I thought I read some Atlas polls have Trump winning the black vote at 60%. Not sure how much stock we should put in them either.
November 3, 20241 yr 18 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I thought I read some Atlas polls have Trump winning the black vote at 60%. Not sure how much stock we should put in them either. They're going to be what Trafalgar was in 2016, an partisan poll group that happened to get it right once and has been bombing since.
November 3, 20241 yr 30 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I thought I read some Atlas polls have Trump winning the black vote at 60%. Not sure how much stock we should put in them either. Their whole strategy is keep repeating the lies
November 3, 20241 yr FWIW, I am going on record as predicting a Harris win. No way will the elites allow Trump to take office.
November 3, 20241 yr 44 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: I said that all along. College educated women are the single biggest swing demographic and they rightfully turned on trump and his stooges As a college educated female I'll take your word for it.
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