July 3, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said: That outfit's always been in the tank for the right. Who knew?
July 3, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, paco said: That's not a counterpoint to my objection to "16 million jobs gained" as being impressive. That's net gain once they got back to pre pandemic levels, which is a completely different discussion. Seriously grasshopper? you think this is an election where anybody gives a rats about context and qualifiers?
July 3, 20241 yr Updated Trump platform: -Terminate the Constitution -Project 2025 -Put Y'all Back in Chains -Kristallnacht for Dems
July 3, 20241 yr 20 minutes ago, paco said: A lot of bad economic indicators AND inflations\interest rates are still sky high. Specifically which bad economic indicators are you referring to? And as for inflation, the monthly year-over-year rate has been slightly over 3% since June of last year. Hardlly what I'd call "sky high" considering the context of global inflation and how we stack up against other G7 countries. Quote Stock market is under performing when adjusted for inflation lolwut? What does this even mean? Underperforming what exactly? Without a benchmark, this is a nonsensical statement. Give it another shot. Quote You mean the leftists rioting in the streets during the pandemic? Also cities are still trying to reverse course from defund the police. I still can't believe Trump allowed all that rampant crime to happen under his watch. Shameful, if you ask me.
July 3, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: Updated Trump platform: -Terminate the Constitution -Project 2025 -Put Y'all Back in Chains -Kristallnacht for Dems To be fair he only said we should suspend the constitution. I’m sure he will bring it back at some point
July 3, 20241 yr The Dems never gave two ishs about Covid, it was all performative like literally everything they talk about. They just had to scare enough lemmings to make it politically expedient. It's the gift that keeps on giving for them, always has been.
July 3, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Who knew? @Dave Moss and I saw it long ago we tried to tell you guys but you just wouldn't listen now the veil is lifted and the ugly truth of the Old Grey Lady is finally revealed - she has a read sweatshirt with Trump's face in blue bedazzles, and hundreds of freeze-dried doomsday prepper meals in her cupboard
July 3, 20241 yr Just now, Arthur Jackson said: @Dave Moss and I saw it long ago we tried to tell you guys but you just wouldn't listen now the veil is lifted and ugly truth of the Old Grey Lady is finally revealed - she has a read sweatshirt with Trump's face in blue bedazzles, and hundreds of freeze-dried doomsday prepper meals in her cupboard So all this time the 1619 Project was really just a setup to get to Project 2025 Sure fooled me
July 3, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: The Dems never gave two ishs about Covid, it was all performative like literally everything they talk about. They just had to scare enough lemmings to make it politically expedient. It's the gift that keeps on giving for them, always has been. Once again and for the millionth time, the US wasn't even close to the 1st country to shut down. The democrats did not create the pandemic you f'ing moron.
July 3, 20241 yr IF trump wins then I bet everyone blame the dnc for not replacing Biden after the first debate
July 3, 20241 yr I have to admit, the "stock market underperforming when adjusted for inflation" is a new one.
July 3, 20241 yr Just now, Mike030270 said: IF trump wins then I bet everyone blame the dnc for not replacing Biden after the first debate Way to go way out on a limb there, mike.
July 3, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: Once again and for the millionth time, the US wasn't even close to the 1st country to shut down. The democrats did not create the pandemic you f'ing moron. not to mention, trump was potus when the country was shut down for covid.
July 3, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I have to admit, the "stock market underperforming when adjusted for inflation" is a new one. After he just got done saying the net jobs number is bogus because of the pandemic where everything was shut down and people were laid off. In paco's mind, the inflation numbers are legit to discuss but the jobs gains aren't despite the fact that both are a direct result of the pandemic recovery. Oblivious to the fact that he completely undermines the opening point he was trying to make in the very same post.
July 3, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I have to admit, the "stock market underperforming when adjusted for inflation" is a new one. I did the math in another thread. The average gain for the DJIA is 7.03% when adjusted for inflation. If memory serves me we are right around 3% since Biden took office. 🤷♂️
July 3, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: So all this time the 1619 Project was really just a setup to get to Project 2025 Sure fooled me 2025 - 1619 = 406 406 is the area code for Montana Hannah Montana was played by Miley Cyrus Cryrus the Great was a Persian king Persians wear a lot of cologne Cologne is in Germany Hitler was German understand?
July 3, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Way to go way out on a limb there, mike. You're welcome
July 3, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, paco said: I did the math in another thread. The average gain is 7.03% when adjusted for inflation. We are right around 3% since Biden took office. 🤷♂️ 7% has always been the basic number after inflation, nothing new there
July 3, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said: 2025 - 1619 = 406 406 is the area code for Montana Hannah Montana was played by Miley Cyrus Cryrus the Great was a Persian king Persians wear a lot of cologne Cologne is in Germany Hitler was German understand? Not really, where do the Ottomans come into it?
July 3, 20241 yr 36 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: Seriously grasshopper? you think this is an election where anybody gives a rats about context and qualifiers? If you contend to be better than the trumpbots, then yes
July 3, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Gannan said: A Supreme Court justice just said he can. If only we could all be as intelligent as you. Which one? That clown Sotomayor?
July 3, 20241 yr 44 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: 7% has always been the basic number after inflation, nothing new there Correct, but the problem is we are WAY below 7% when adjusted for inflation. Hell, before adjusting for inflation we are almost at 7%. Looking at the Dow Jan 2021 to Jan 2024: 1/8/2021 31,097.97 1/5/2024 37,466.11 That gives a 3 year gain of 20.48%, which is roughly 7% So adjust 2021 to 2024 dollars. I used this site, but if there is a better one I'm all ears. I feel like the last one I used produced "better" results 1/8/2021 36,665.91 1/5/2024 37,466.11 That turns out to be a 2.18% gain over 3 years. (I remember 3% and I THOUGHT that was yearly average, so I don't necessarily trust that inflation calculator) So yes, the Dow has been underperforming, ESPECIALLY when you adjust for inflation, under Biden despite Tiny Tool's chuckles.
July 3, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, paco said: Lol wait... I hope this is trolling or schtick. Immediately following a pandemic when everything shut down and people were laid off, hardly impressive I wouldn't spike that football yet. A lot of bad economic indicators AND inflations\interest rates are still sky high. Stock market is under performing when adjusted for inflation You mean the leftists rioting in the streets during the pandemic? Also cities are still trying to reverse course from defund the police. WTF Never go full WV Mike, Paco. Quote Immediately following a pandemic when everything shut down and people were laid off, hardly impressive Yeah, if you for some insane reason take out the 10M jobs gained in the first year and a half of his term, 6M+ jobs in a 2 year span is terrible. Sure, that 6M job gain in 2 years is more than the jobs gained in Eisenhower's entire 8 year term, the split Kennedy/Johnson term, Nixon's first term, Nixon/Ford's split term, Reagan's first term, HW Bush's term, W's entire 8 year term, Obama's first term and of course Trump's disastrous term, but sure, very unimpressive. Quote I wouldn't spike that football yet. A lot of bad economic indicators AND inflations\interest rates are still sky high. This is true. I saw a headline on Epoch Times that read: RECESSION IMMINENT Quote Stock market is under performing when adjusted for inflation It looks like everybody's ripped on this one enough Quote You mean the leftists rioting in the streets during the pandemic? Also cities are still trying to reverse course from defund the police. Right, must be the summer of 2020 that kept crime trending upwards for years. Whatever helps you feel better about crime going down, dude.
July 3, 20241 yr 50 minutes ago, paco said: Correct, the problem is we are WAY below 7% when adjusted for inflation. Hell, before you are adjusting for inflation we are at 7%. Looking at the Dow Jan 2021 to Jan 2024: 1/8/2021 31,097.97 1/5/2024 37,466.11 That gives a 3 year gain of 20.48%, which is roughly 7% So adjust 2021 to 2024 dollars. I used this site, if there is a better one I'm all ears. I feel like the last one I used produced "better" results 1/8/2021 36,665.91 1/5/2024 37,466.11 That turns out to 2.18% gain over 3 years. (I remember 3% and I THOUGHT that was yearly average, so I don't necessarily trust that calculator) So yes, the Dow has been underperforming under Biden despite Tiny Tool's chuckles. I chuckled because you just said "the market underperformed" without including a benchmark or metric. It's like saying NFL QBs underperformed without specifying a QB or metric: passer rating, TDs, yards, etc. It's a nonsensical statement without explaining what you're referring to. I think the S&P 500 under Biden is overperforming the average annualized returns. And the "adjusting for inflation" aspect is laughable given that you undermined it the minute you brought up the pandemic recovery.
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