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15 minutes ago, paco said:

:lol: 

 

Personal preference.  I love me a good cup of tea.  Never got into coffee

drinks tea, drives an e-stang, pro-genocide(according to moss). 

 

:nonono:

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1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

The issue is that it won't change a thing. The right will still allege voter fraud with zero evidence to support it when they lose elections.

They alleged voter fraud in plenty of states where IDs are required to vote, most notably Georgia.

Bingo. As long as absentee or mail-in voting is still allowed in some form, those idiots will always cry about fraud. The bottom line is that despite all the pearl clutching, actual cases of voter fraud are exceedingly rare.

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Bingo. As long as absentee or mail-in voting is still allowed in some form, those idiots will always cry about fraud. The bottom line is that despite all the pearl clutching, actual cases of voter fraud are exceedingly rare.

And when they happen they're mostly Republicans voting for Trump on behalf of dead relatives. 

2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

There is also no need for it if you've already shown it when you registered. You're legal to vote if you've registered, that's when they check your status. 

It's an artificial hurdle created against a myth of widespread voter fraud. 

I thought conservatives didn't like having extra laws that don't do anything on the books.

They do when it makes them feel like they're solving a real problem despite a stark lack of evidence of a problem in the first place. The facts don't matter here, only feelings.

18 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I've started to get my workouts in early in the morning with this heat being so bad during the day. I have drank a lot less coffee in that timeframe, don't seem to need it. 

I never needed tea in the morning until I became a dad.  I know what you're thinking, having an infant\baby\toddler in your mid-40s isn't exhausting at all, why on earth do you need a cup or two in the morning? Dunno, but here we are.

Can someone remind me what the Republican narrative is again? That millions of illegals are risking being deported so  they can vote in our elections?

13 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

drinks tea, drives an e-stang, pro-genocide(according to moss). 

 

:nonono:

You forgot my solar panels.  I'm literally saving the planet.

2 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

They do at least one of those. Their welfare checks don't come as cash. Everyone needs an ID to live these days.

My great aunt wasn't poor but she was old and didn't drive (my uncle drove her everywhere she needed to go) so she never got a driver's license. I think all she needed for finances was her SSN card but she passed away several years ago so I could be misremembering some things.

36 minutes ago, paco said:

:lol: 

 

Personal preference.  I love me a good cup of tea.  Never got into coffee

Fn libs 

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Fn libs 

Woah woah woah.  This is a friendly discussion.  No need to say things we can't take back.

Just now, paco said:

No need to say things we can't take back.

I wack off to animal planet

14 minutes ago, paco said:

I never needed tea in the morning until I became a dad.  I know what you're thinking, having an infant\baby\toddler in your mid-40s isn't exhausting at all, why on earth do you need a cup or two in the morning? Dunno, but here we are.

We had all our kids in our 20s and 30s. I didn't want to be a too old dad. 

Now I'm in my 40s and my teens have their own lives and mostly ignore me. On one hand it's nice to be left alone, but I'm also scared of what's going on in their heads :nonono:

4 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

I wack off to animal planet

Jeez man, get a good 1980s national geographic to whack to like a normal person wouldja?

17 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

I wack off to animal planet

ok this got me again, you F'er :lol: 

18 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

I wack off to animal planet

What the hell happened to you Vikas? :P

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

ok this got me again, you F'er :lol: 

What?

For a second you thought @vikas83 had a thing for water buffalo?

you said blow

15 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

What?

For a second you thought @vikas83 had a thing for water buffalo?

you seem more like a sea lion kind of dude.

55 minutes ago, paco said:

You forgot my solar panels.  I'm literally saving the planet.

you are the worst. 

 

 

:wub:

2 hours ago, paco said:

Define low cost.  Because you can get a non drivers ID for less than 40 bucks depending on what state.  Under $10 a year to be able to do adult stuff isn't barrier to entry IMO.

 

Examples of non drivers photo ID's and costs

NY - $14 and under for 4 years

NJ - $24

PA - $41 for the initial fee

 

I'm sorry, but I reject the idea that requiring an ID is voter suppression.  If you really, really want to vote that badly, you can easily obtain an id.

This is the bog standard working liberal response "being unable to obtain voter id wouldn't affect me or anyone I know, ergo how serious an issue can it really be" it's the equivalent to "if you've nothing to hide you've nothing to fear" when the subject of ID cards or other government mandated data collection comes up.

As a means of fixing elections, in person impersonation of a voter would be the single least efficient method of doing it you could possibly conceive, you would have to do it hundreds of times to affect a single election district, in the US and the UK the rate of conviction for individual voter fraud is zero or as near zero as makes no odds, pretty much every allegation there's ever been has been the bleatings of a sore loser, worse electoral fraud is carried out by election officials erroneously 'datacleansing' electoral rolls than has ever been recorded as individual voter impersonation, the sole purpose of ID requirements is voter suppression. It's dressed up to look reasonable as preventing crime, but all it does is make voting harder and slower.

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49 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Aside from likeability issues for those who are familiar with her, those who aren't would be puzzled to see Biden's name no longer at the top of the ticket. I've said it before in reference to the vote share RFK Jr will get, but a lot of stupid voters will simply vote for a name that's familiar to them. Biden and Trump are both familar but Harris is much less so. 

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