July 10, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, DrPhilly said: What kind of tea do you prefer? 1) D- 2) I like my tea how I like @Arthur Jackson. English and black.
July 10, 20241 yr Bad Butch Beach Body girl is killing it lately Can we nominate her for president next time?
July 10, 20241 yr Looks like the Dems are breaking into Bidens diaper stash Quote Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet was among three Democrats who privately voiced fears that Biden couldn’t win in November, sources told CNN’s Dana Bash, and then became the first of his colleagues to go public. "It’s true that I said that,” Bennet told CNN’s Kaitlan Collins. "Donald Trump is on track, I think, to win this election and maybe win it by a landslide and take with him the Senate and the House.” He added: "So for me, this isn’t a question about polling. It’s not a question about politics. It’s a moral question about the future of our country.” "The White House, in the time since that disastrous debate, I think, has done nothing to really demonstrate that they have a plan to win this election.” Bennet’s remarks do not represent the public position of all Democratic senators but there is no doubt the debate and its aftermath have created deep concern in the party.
July 10, 20241 yr 23 hours ago, paco said: You forgot my solar panels. I'm literally saving the planet. 22 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said: you are the worst.
July 10, 20241 yr I think the discord among Democrats is a good thing. It indicates an introspective quality that is completely absent in their opponent. It takes integrity to acknowledge when your party has made some bad decisions that put you in the current situation you're in. It shows they're trying to behave like the adults in the room. But at some point, they have to recognize it's becoming counter-productive and then pivot to playing the best cards they have left in their hand instead of folding and walking away from the table just so they can say "I told you so."
July 10, 20241 yr 26 minutes ago, paco said: i'm actually looking into solar panels, but i draw the line at the fauxstang. although admittedly it's nicer than the cybertruck, so there's that.
July 10, 20241 yr 25 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I think the discord among Democrats is a good thing. It indicates an introspective quality that is completely absent in their opponent. It takes integrity to acknowledge when your party has made some bad decisions that put you in the current situation you're in. It shows they're trying to behave like the adults in the room. But at some point, they have to recognize it's becoming counter-productive and then pivot to playing the best cards they have left in their hand instead of folding and walking away from the table just so they can say "I told you so." It's become a complete disaster because they can't handle it like adults. If they wanted to make a switch after the debate, then they needed the leaders of the party (Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, Schumer and Jefferies) go to the White House, meet with Biden, and convince him to step aside. Basically what Goldwater and others did to Nixon. But it had to be fast and private. Instead we have this steady drip of no name Congressmen and now a Senator using this as an opportunity to get on TV and raise money. The media keeps putting these people on and the story stays alive. We're now going on 2 weeks of non-stop headlines about Biden's fitness and Democratic party dysfunction. And the more they do it this way, the more stubborn Biden will become. Doing this publicly is a sign of a clown show. No one is more incompetent when it comes to politics and winning elections than the Democratic party.
July 10, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: It's become a complete disaster because they can't handle it like adults. If they wanted to make a switch after the debate, then they needed the leaders of the party (Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, Schumer and Jefferies) go to the White House, meet with Biden, and convince him to step aside. Basically what Goldwater and others did to Nixon. But it had to be fast and private. Instead we have this steady drip of no name Congressmen and now a Senator using this as an opportunity to get on TV and raise money. The media keeps putting these people on and the story stays alive. We're now going on 2 weeks of non-stop headlines about Biden's fitness and Democratic party dysfunction. And the more they do it this way, the more stubborn Biden will become. Doing this publicly is a sign of a clown show. No one is more incompetent when it comes to politics and winning elections than the Democratic party. Given how they run politics it was always going to take a few weeks meaning if they were going to jump out in a coordinated public fashion it would be just about now. Doesn't look like there is enough momentum for them to pull the plug and yet they don't have a big positive push going either. Classic Fup at this point.
July 10, 20241 yr Biden suffered less polling damage than expected after debate against Trump Polls indicate Biden is trailing Trump, but opinions may not have shifted radically, while Kamala Harris shows mixed results https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/09/biden-polling-debate-trump
July 10, 20241 yr Quote "It’s up to the president to decide if he is going to run. We’re all encouraging him to make that decision because time is running short," Pelosi said in an interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" when asked if Biden had her support to be the head of the Democratic ticket. From NBC. Yet again, a heavy weight is clear that they have not accepted Biden saying he isn't pulling out. Guess it is still up in the air. Stupid wishy washy Dems.
July 10, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: From NBC. Yet again, a heavy weight is clear that they have not accepted Biden saying he isn't pulling out. Guess it is still up in the air. Stupid wishy washy Dems.
July 10, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, paco said: 1) D- 2) I like my tea how I like @Arthur Jackson. English and black. eat my Devonshire cream
July 10, 20241 yr 44 minutes ago, vikas83 said: It's become a complete disaster because they can't handle it like adults. If they wanted to make a switch after the debate, then they needed the leaders of the party (Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, Schumer and Jefferies) go to the White House, meet with Biden, and convince him to step aside. Basically what Goldwater and others did to Nixon. But it had to be fast and private. Instead we have this steady drip of no name Congressmen and now a Senator using this as an opportunity to get on TV and raise money. The media keeps putting these people on and the story stays alive. We're now going on 2 weeks of non-stop headlines about Biden's fitness and Democratic party dysfunction. And the more they do it this way, the more stubborn Biden will become. Doing this publicly is a sign of a clown show. No one is more incompetent when it comes to politics and winning elections than the Democratic party. It's hard to argue with that, there's no way that a serious political party in all good conscience should be nominating a man displaying repeated and demonstrable signs of cognitive impairment to be president of the United States, especially when the chief hold up right now appears to be a toss up between no one knows what the f*** to do under current nomination rules and that party big cheeses want to play best of a million rock paper scissors over who has to have the awkward conversation with Biden. The answer to the first bit is is it's a situation without precedent, it requires a novel solution, the answer to the second is you all have to have the conversation with Biden, grow some balls at this point. He had a window to say dropping out due to emerging medical problem and blew it, now you got to take Old Yeller out to the barn with a rifle.
July 10, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said: i'm actually looking into solar panels, but i draw the line at the fauxstang. although admittedly it's nicer than the cybertruck, so there's that. I have BMs that are more visually appealing than the cyber truck.
July 10, 20241 yr 20 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said: It's hard to argue with that, there's no way that a serious political party in all good conscience should be nominating a man displaying repeated and demonstrable signs of cognitive impairment to be president of the United States, especially when the chief hold up right now appears to be a toss up between no one knows what the f*** to do under current nomination rules and that party big cheeses want to play best of a million rock paper scissors over who has to have the awkward conversation with Biden. The answer to the first bit is is it's a situation without precedent, it requires a novel solution, the answer to the second is you all have to have the conversation with Biden, grow some balls at this point. He had a window to say dropping out due to emerging medical problem and blew it, now you got to take Old Yeller out to the barn with a rifle. Yes, Trump is so out of kilter he should step aside for the good of the party and the .... Oh right, you prefer not to discuss that liability.
July 10, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Yes, Trump is so out of kilter he should step aside for the good of the party and the .... Oh right, you prefer not to discuss that liability. Were you dropped on your head as a child? Kicked by a horse? In pre Rupert Murdoch / Roger Ailes Fox News America, Trump would never have got near a GOP nomination, but that America doesn't exist any more. All the failings Trump has have been there writ large for 8 years now and he's still polling in the 40's, the Republicans are not going to remove him as candidate at this point, his support from voters is baked in. You want to discuss how America got to this point we can have at it, but you can only deal with the reality of this election and right now that is, Donald Trump is a liar and a crook, but he's been that for 8 years and is still the Republican nominee, unless you have a new angle? Nominating a crook shouldn't happen in a properly functioning democracy, but that does not change the fact that nominating a man who is mentally no longer capable of serving is a dereliction.
July 10, 20241 yr Pelosi and Schiff keep saying "Joe needs to decide and time is running out". Schumer refuses to say anything else except "I'm with Joe" even when pressed to answer if he thinks Joe should remain the candidate. That sounds to me like they are NOT behind Biden at this point and are just waiting for the light bulb to go on for him. Seems like they are really going to need to do an intervention of sorts OR just get on with Biden and start being more forcefully behind him.
July 10, 20241 yr i think they're trying to be supportive until this nato summit concludes...after that, it could get uglier.
July 10, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: i think they're trying to be supportive until this nato summit concludes...after that, it could get uglier.
July 10, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: i think they're trying to be supportive until this nato summit concludes...after that, it could get uglier. Yeah, maybe it is the summit that is delaying things. Yesterday I thought the momentum was swinging toward his favor but after looking at what these three are saying including today I'd say things look difficult for him.
July 10, 20241 yr Just now, DrPhilly said: Yeah, maybe it is the summit that is delaying things. Yesterday I thought the momentum was swinging toward his favor but after looking at what these three are saying including today I'd say things look difficult for him. yeah, i don't think they'd publicly undermine him during the summit. but i think it's coming shortly after. big question will be whether or not they pivot to kamala or someone else. that's where it could get very ugly.....lock and load into the abyss!
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