August 21, 20241 yr 13 hours ago, lynched1 said: 🤣🤣🤣 Well crap, now what are you gonna do? Don’t worry you can sit down to pee in either of these options. You’ll survive.
August 21, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, toolg said: I don't even know if that works. The party apparatus will see MAGA is a loser and want to turn it around. But so much of the party apparatus was replaced by MAGA loyalists. MAGA doesn't care if they lose. They just refuse to accept the outcome. Where does it even start to unravel? Vance is such an opportunist. He hitched himself to MAGA because that was his best chance for his own self-promotion. If MAGA doesn't work out he is going to weasel into something else. The problem with defeating MAGA is that it's not led by ideology, but by grift. So long as they can milk the rubes of money, they'll keep the con going, and thats what makes me think they won't stop no matter how badly they lose. And as long as the rubes are voting, they'll have just enough to win the primary, but not enough to win the general. If the DNC was smart, they would pump money and backing into congressional and gubernatorial centrists running on a pro-business, pro- national security platform. The Dem POTUS candidate can run on vibes so that the coalition doesn't have infighting, and then let the congressional Dem candidates drive policy on a smaller scale. Gives the rest of the DNC leadership plausible deniabiliity with people off the deep end ("Oh, we totally don't have this policy on widgets, it's just that some Congress members from purple districts do.")
August 21, 20241 yr Trump's populism without Trump is just a socially conservative version of Bernie Sanders. That's why it'll never work without Trump's branding. It's hollowed out protectionist nationalism with a dash of misogyny and racism to gin up grievance and fear. Losers love being told that their failures are the fault of someone else, and Trump did that better than anybody. Once he's gone, it'll be a bunch of copycats trying to mold the ashes into something recognizable hoping to recapture the magic from 2016. But like cowyboys fans still talking about the 90's, trumpbots will never be relevant again and they will have nobody to blame for that besides themselves. F them, they weren't heeding the warnings back when everyone with any semblance of intelligence was being pushed out of the party, and they sure as ish won't heed them after the fat orange F finally croaks.
August 21, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Trump's populism without Trump is just a socially conservative version of Bernie Sanders. That's why it'll never work without Trump's branding. It's hollowed out protectionist nationalism with a dash of misogyny and racism to gin up grievance and fear. Losers love being told that their failures are the fault of someone else, and Trump did that better than anybody. Once he's gone, it'll be a bunch of copycats trying to mold the ashes into something recognizable hoping to recapture the magic from 2016. But like cowyboys fans still talking about the 90's, trumpbots will never be relevant again and they will have nobody to blame for that besides themselves. F them, they weren't heeding the warnings back when everyone with any semblance of intelligence was being pushed out of the party, and they sure as ish won't heed them after the fat orange F finally croaks. I hope you're right and that's the case, but MAGAts and Dallas fans aren't so much of a Venn diagram as they are a series of wholly overlapping circles: they don't win when it counts anymore, they're all insufferable, and there's more of them than there should be. Dallas hasn't won ish in thirty years, but Micah Parsons jerseys are still being sold by the bushel
August 21, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Bill said: I hope you're right and that's the case, but MAGAts and Dallas fans aren't so much of a Venn diagram as they are a series of wholly overlapping circles: they don't win when it counts anymore, they're all insufferable, and there's more of them than there should be. Dallas hasn't won ish in thirty years, but Micah Parsons jerseys are still being sold by the bushel I'm in agreement with you, the GOP is long gone, there is no GOP. There is only the MAGA party for the foreseeable future, catering to rubes who like to pretend they voted for Trump on policies rather than grievance, but we all know the truth even if they will never bring themselves to admit it. The problem, as you and I have stated, is that there aren't enough of these rubes to win general elections even if they manage to still win primaries.
August 21, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Mike31mt said: The EMBs #1 tranny cheerleading puss has weighed in Woohoo, the EMB's gayest, pretend Christian, liar, is here to set us 'straight'
August 21, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, vikas83 said: Interesting question after the speech last night. As someone who was a registered Republican up until 2021 (now Libertarian), if presented with the option of removing the risk of this November's election, I would happily accept another Obama term. But of course, I despise Trump, and while I disagree with basically all of Harris' policy positions, I'd rather see her win. To the liberals on this board -- would you sign up right now for another GWB term if it meant Trump couldn't win? Not a liberal, but yes I'd take GWB over all of the above.
August 21, 20241 yr 44 minutes ago, DBW said: Well crap, now what are you gonna do? Don’t worry you can sit down to pee in either of these options. You’ll survive. Probably just piss on someone's shoes out in the walk way. 🤷♂️
August 21, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, vikas83 said: I'd like to think that when the leader dies, the cult will crumble. But MAGA has really taken over the apparatus of the party and chased traditional conservatives out of the party completely. In order for things to go back, Trump needs to not just lose but be obliterated. They need to see him as a loser. They will have to believe the election wasn't stolen for that to happen, not likely
August 21, 20241 yr 57 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: If MAGA existed without Trump and his disciples now, it might be much more popular. I believe in a lot of those policies which is why I voted for Trump. I just wish there was someone more presidential who could rally people for the right reasons. What policies specifically? I'm legitimately curious.
August 21, 20241 yr On 8/19/2024 at 9:17 AM, we_gotta_believe said: You've literally admitted to doing exactly that, but sure thing lynched. I can and have told you anything I wanted, how I wanted to, and when I wanted to. You can take whatever I post as scripture if you choose, most people find me to be a very trusting soul. I invite you to do so as well. Probably not in your best interest but to each their own. Interested in some discount beach front property?
August 21, 20241 yr cheeto is following his advisors' wishes to focus more on policy......... no...wait....he's still batsheet crazy & completely uninformed on the issues.
August 21, 20241 yr Bidenomics in action: The Bureau of Labor Statistics revised down its total tally of jobs created in the year through March by 818,000 as part of its preliminary annual benchmark review of payroll data. That suggests the economy added an average of 174,000 jobs per month during that time period — below the previous 242,000 estimate. On a monthly basis, that amounts to about 68,000 fewer jobs. It marks the largest downward revision since 2009.
August 21, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, lynched1 said: I can and have told you anything I wanted, how I wanted to, and when I wanted to. You can take whatever I post as scripture if you choose, most people find me to be a very trusting soul. I invite you to do so as well. Probably not in your best interest but to each their own. Interested in some discount beach front property? Did you forget that you already replied to my post, you drunk moron? Do us all and yourself a favor and go check into the nearest rehab.
August 21, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Did you forget that you already replied to my post, you drunk moron? Do us all and yourself a favor and go check into the nearest rehab. Go F your neighbors garden gnome already.
August 21, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, vikas83 said: Interesting question after the speech last night. As someone who was a registered Republican up until 2021 (now Libertarian), if presented with the option of removing the risk of this November's election, I would happily accept another Obama term. But of course, I despise Trump, and while I disagree with basically all of Harris' policy positions, I'd rather see her win. To the liberals on this board -- would you sign up right now for another GWB term if it meant Trump couldn't win? It would be an absolute last resort. My daughter has been taking an interest in politics and has been watching the DNC with me. We've been talking about the Bush and Obama years. I started rehashing all of the awful things Bush did and started remembering why I really disliked him as president. Iraq Invasion Freedom Fries Outting Valeri Plame (happened under his watch and commuted the sentence) Using the terror alert system to scare the bejezuz out of people No Child Left Behind Medicare part D Patriot Act Sure he's better than Trump but it's a low bar.
August 21, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Gannan said: It would be an absolute last resort. My daughter has been taking an interest in politics and has been watching the DNC with me. We've been talking about the Bush and Obama years. I started rehashing all of the awful things Bush did and started remembering why I really disliked him as president. Iraq Invasion Freedom Fries Outting Valeri Plame (happened under his watch and commuted the sentence) Using the terror alert system to scare the bejezuz out of people No Child Left Behind Medicare part D Patriot Act Sure he's better than Trump but it's a low bar. On the flip side, I never doubted that he acted in what he thought were the best interests of the country. Same with Obama, even when I disagreed. I didn't like most of what both of them did, but I'd still take either one.
August 21, 20241 yr Just now, vikas83 said: On the flip side, I never doubted that he acted in what he thought were the best interests of the country. Same with Obama, even when I disagreed. I didn't like most of what both of them did, but I'd still take either one. He's a decent man. I am fond of him as a person, and he's very charming. I jsut really hated a lot of what he did. In 2016 I was convinced his brother was going to win and bring all those guys back (Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, etc.) The thought terrified me.
August 21, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Gannan said: My daughter has been taking an interest in politics Out of curiosity, at what age did that start? I've been actively trying to shield my daughter from politics, but I know that won't be able to last forever. Before 2016, I was pretty disengaged from all of this ish. I look forward to returning to that status quo when Trump's gone.
August 21, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, vikas83 said: On the flip side, I never doubted that he acted in what he thought were the best interests of the country. Same with Obama, even when I disagreed. I didn't like most of what both of them did, but I'd still take either one. i think w's biggest issue was the people he surrounded himself with.
August 21, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, lynched1 said: Bidenomics in action: The Bureau of Labor Statistics revised down its total tally of jobs created in the year through March by 818,000 as part of its preliminary annual benchmark review of payroll data. That suggests the economy added an average of 174,000 jobs per month during that time period — below the previous 242,000 estimate. On a monthly basis, that amounts to about 68,000 fewer jobs. It marks the largest downward revision since 2009. i'm glad you posted this. @mikemack8 was looking for a friend to discuss this with.
August 21, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Out of curiosity, at what age did that start? I've been actively trying to shield my daughter from politics, but I know that won't be able to last forever. Before 2016, I was pretty disengaged from all of this ish. I look forward to returning to that status quo when Trump's gone. Can't wait to tell my daughter I had the privilege to vote against Trump 3 times.
August 21, 20241 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: Out of curiosity, at what age did that start? I've been actively trying to shield my daughter from politics, but I know that won't be able to last forever. Before 2016, I was pretty disengaged from all of this ish. I look forward to returning to that status quo when Trump's gone. She's 14. This jsut started when Biden dropped out. For whatever reason I have always been interested in politics even when I was in elementary school. I was really close to being a poly sci major. I have watched every convention from both parties since 1984. I didn't watch all of the RNC this time around because we were on vacation and I'm really worn out on Trump's bull ish but I watched the last night.
August 21, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, mr_hunt said: i'm glad you posted this. @mikemack8 was looking for a friend to discuss this with. What's to discuss?
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