September 11, 20241 yr 24 minutes ago, Captain F said: So I guess fact checking during a debate was in fact NOT really a thing before last night and ABC themselves put it into place after the debate started and after being non committal to it beforehand. Moderators have a job. Moderate. Not participate. Period. Participation has led to issues in the past which is why it stopped. From CNN.... https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/11/media/abc-moderators-debate-fact-check-trump-harris-false-claims/index.html It's not participating in a debate to quickly make a correction when a candidate states a lie that is beyond even touching the atmosphere of truth. If a candidate were to say, "2+2 equals 87!", there's nothing wrong with the moderator saying "just for the record, 2+2 is in fact 4". That's not "participating" in the debate. It's keeping the discussion tethered to reality.
September 11, 20241 yr If nothing else, last night should have shown you just how easily it is to bait Trump. Harris did it again and again, and the moron bit every time. Easiest fishing ever. The MAGA cult makes the UUUURRLLLLLAAAACKER crowd look sane.
September 11, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Lloyd said: Getting their talking points and rebuttals organized to disperse to the Twitter and 4chan crowd. You know, memes about women talking too much. Haitians eating hamsters. Maybe some Biden classics they want to repurpose. It'll make its way into the EMB...give it a few hours. The right-wing crowd on my social media hasn't shut up since 2016. To be so quiet this morning after the only Presidential debate of 2024 is... strange. Did they all delete their accounts and move to Truth Social?
September 11, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, vikas83 said: No. That's very insulting to the intellect of Grandpa Simpson. Abe Simpson is a Mensa member compared to Trump. You are right. Sorry Abe. Should have used a cartoon RFK Jr.
September 11, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Captain F said: But is it the moderators job to fact check or correct a debate member, during a debate? No. There should be NO interjection,opinion, or fact checking by moderators during ANY debate. Go cry into your MyPillow. Your boy got clowned and now you're gonna come on here to start queefing about biased moderators because they didn't let him spout a never ending stream of lies. If that's what makes you hard, go to one of his rallies, you weirdo.
September 11, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Phillyterp85 said: It's not participating in a debate to quickly make a correction when a candidate states a lie that is beyond even touching the atmosphere of truth. If a candidate were to say, "2+2 equals 87!", there's nothing wrong with the moderator saying "just for the record, 2+2 is in fact 4". That's not "participating" in the debate. It's keeping the discussion tethered to reality. Yes. If Kamala uses numbers that are too favorable to herself, let Trump call her out (well, a normal, prepared opponent should have that ability). If Kamala says, "Oh yeah? Well your running mate f***s couches." A moderator might wanna step in, correct the use of a stupid meme, and kinda recalibrate the discussion.
September 11, 20241 yr Springfield, OH father is pushing back on the fake xenophobic Haitian immigrant stories.
September 11, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Captain F said: And it was one sided. Have you ever considered that could be due to one of the candidates lying a massive amount more than the other, dumb ass?
September 11, 20241 yr I am astounded it took so long for the sane members of the GOP to speak out, frankly.
September 11, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, Toastrel said: If nothing else, last night should have shown you just how easily it is to bait Trump. Harris did it again and again, and the moron bit every time. Easiest fishing ever. The MAGA cult makes the UUUURRLLLLLAAAACKER crowd look sane. Easily the #1 takeaway. Harris had a bland opening statement but from about the 5 minute mark and for at least half an hour she put together an absolutely brilliant attack. It was extremely well delivered and had layers setting up the next layers. After 20 something minutes of reelin him in and letting him rant and melt, she then SLAYS him with the line of Putin eating his lunch. She showed us in real time how world leaders get the best of Trump by going after his fragile ego. As well designed and executed the attack was however, I don't think anybody was ready for Trump being that easily baited into that disastrous a stretch. He came off like a court drama villain of the week, taking every bait into self incrimination while Harris punctuated every line with overacting histrionics. It was amazing prime time television and its incredible how we may have seen two of the most consequential debates ever in the same cycle.
September 11, 20241 yr Even lady bug agrees ‘Disaster’: Lindsey Graham Leads Right-Wing Freak-Out Over Trump’s Debate For Lindsey Graham, there was only one word for Donald Trump’s Tuesday night debate performance against Kamala Harris: "Disaster.” Trump was unprepared, and his debate team should be fired, Graham told Tim Miller, host of The Bulwark Podcast.
September 11, 20241 yr Just now, dawkins4prez said: Easily the #1 takeaway. Harris had a bland opening statement but from about the 5 minute mark and for at least half an hour she put together an absolutely brilliant attack. It was extremely well delivered and had layers setting up the next layers. After 20 something minutes of reelin him in and letting him rant and melt, she then SLAYS him with the line of Putin eating his lunch. She showed us in real time how world leaders get the best of Trump by going after his fragile ego. As well designed and executed the attack was however, I don't think anybody was ready for Trump being that easily bated into that disastrous a stretch. He came off like a court drama villain of the week, taking every bait into self incrimination while Harris punctuated every line with overacting histrionics. It was amazing prime time television and its incredible how we may have seen two of the most consequential debates ever in the same cycle. There is also hope that is the last time we ever see Donald Julia Trump at a debate.
September 11, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Have you ever considered that could be due to one of the candidates lying a massive amount more than the other, dumb ass? If she came out and said Donald Trump likes to eat babies for breakfast, I would expect the host to clarify. Not sure why it's so hard to understand, you spout insane debunked memes from the Internet, you SHOULD be corrected no matter who you are. Mr. Fake News loves to spread it himself
September 11, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, BDawk_ASamuel said: That’s not as big as a nothing burger as most people want you to think. There are police call recordings, reports, and city council testimony of Haitians in Springfield stealing and eating animals and driving recklessly almost running over school kids. Are they breaking into Mary Sue’s house and fileting her cat? Not that I’ve heard of. But there is substance to the claim that they have a migrant issue in that town. You guys all die on the dumbest of hills. You can't admit to being duped so you let a moron like Trump back you into a corner of defending "illegal immigrants from Haiti are eating your dogs!"
September 11, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: Easily the #1 takeaway. Harris had a bland opening statement but from about the 5 minute mark and for at least half an hour she put together an absolutely brilliant attack. It was extremely well delivered and had layers setting up the next layers. After 20 something minutes of reelin him in and letting him rant and melt, she then SLAYS him with the line of Putin eating his lunch. She showed us in real time how world leaders get the best of Trump by going after his fragile ego. As well designed and executed the attack was however, I don't think anybody was ready for Trump being that easily bated into that disastrous a stretch. He came off like a court drama villain of the week, taking every bait into self incrimination while Harris punctuated every line with overacting histrionics. That's a great way to frame it. It's like the lazy writing in Law and Order episodes where the prosecutor says, "Clearly the defendant was too STUPID to commit this murder." And the defendant is like "Stupid?! It was a brilliant murder. My best murder ever!" Don, bro, you know this lady's goal was to bait you and make you look unstable, right?
September 11, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, Gannan said: It'll never get passed through congress anyway. Agreed. I would entertain the idea of supporting background checks and maybe even special licensing for semi automatic weapons designed to kill people instead of hunting purposes. There are way too many in circulation for a full ban to be effective. I know people that could build their own if a ban were put in place…
September 11, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Kz! said: It's been a huge boon for his campaign. Cat memes are taking over facebook and shining the spotlight on Kambla's evil open border policies.
September 11, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: It's not participating in a debate to quickly make a correction when a candidate states a lie that is beyond even touching the atmosphere of truth. If a candidate were to say, "2+2 equals 87!", there's nothing wrong with the moderator saying "just for the record, 2+2 is in fact 4". That's not "participating" in the debate. It's keeping the discussion tethered to reality. Yeah, kinda like saying officers were killed on J6 which didn't happen. It's OK to say "no, that's a blatant falsehood." Just to keep the discussion tethered to reality, of course.
September 11, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Lloyd said: That's a great way to frame it. It's like the lazy writing in Law and Order episodes where the prosecutor says, "Clearly the defendant was too STUPID to commit this murder." And the defendant is like "Stupid?! It was a brilliant murder. My best murder ever!" Don, bro, you know this lady's goal was to bait you and make you look unstable, right? Recap of last night
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