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I don't know a single Jewish person who is voting for Trump. And I'm in medicine. This obsession with Jewish voters by the MAGA crowd is hilarious. It's not gonna happen guys. I'm sure there are plenty that vote conservative but Trump is not winning over the rest en mass. 

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Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

I agree that a post-Dobbs landscape makes things tricky, but it's that uncertainty (coupling of 2020 and 2022 polling inaccuracies) which is why I think WI is such a tough one to predict.

WI is a reliably blue state in presidential elections. Its only gone republican twice in my lifetime. Once in 84 when they all went red except Mondale's home state. And in 2016. In 2016 Hillary lost the WI primary by a lot. She lost WI in part because the Bernie bros either stayed home or went for Trump. Massively stupid of her not to suck it up and put him on the ticket (that whole campaign was the classic I just need to show up and I can beat this guy). 

1 minute ago, Gannan said:

 

WI is a reliably blue state in presidential elections. Its only gone republican twice in my lifetime. Once in 84 when they all went red except Mondale's home state. And in 2016. In 2016 Hillary lost the WI primary by a lot. She lost WI in part because the Bernie bros either stayed home or went for Trump. Massively stupid of her not to suck it up and put him on the ticket (that whole campaign was the classic I just need to show up and I can beat this guy). 

FL and OH used to be battleground states too, until they weren't. Now they'll be red for the foreseeable future. States shift over time. WI is undergoing that shift. Don't underestimate the stupidity of the average american, or the levels of racism and misogyny still deeply rooted throughout this country.

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

FL and OH used to be battleground states too, until they weren't. Now they'll be red for the foreseeable future. States shift over time. WI is undergoing that shift. Don't underestimate the stupidity of the average american, or the levels of racism and misogyny still deeply rooted throughout this country.

That's where my wife is. She thinks Trump will win because the country will never vote for a black woman for president. I was worried Obama would lose in 2008 for the same reason. I thought people would tell pollsters they were voting for Obama but when the time came the would vote for McCain. 

23 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Whoa, Harris said she wants them all dead? That's pretty crazy nobody's reported on that. Thanks for that substantive contribution. Your input continues to be highly valued and respected!

Oh now we are taking everything at face value? You guys liked to create your own interpretations of things Trump says. I guess it's just one sided. 

I forgot we need to turn off our brains when we listen to Kamala speak.

Sure.  She's pro Isreal and so are all democrats. Their pro gun rights.  Great for border security,  and they lowered prices for everyone. My bad. 

13 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I don't know a single Jewish person who is voting for Trump. And I'm in medicine. This obsession with Jewish voters by the MAGA crowd is hilarious. It's not gonna happen guys. I'm sure there are plenty that vote conservative but Trump is not winning over the rest en mass. 

Regular people in medicine aren't polling their patients on who they are voting for. 

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Oh now we are taking everything at face value? You guys liked to create your own interpretations of things Trump says. I guess it's just one sided. 

I forgot we need to turn off our brains when we listen to Kamala speak.

Sure.  She's pro Isreal and so are all democrats. Their pro gun rights.  Great for border security,  and they lowered prices for everyone. My bad. 

Lucky for you, yours always is.

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Regular people in medicine aren't polling their patients on who they are voting for. 

Pretty sure he means his colleagues, not his patients. Otherwise, another very astute observation!

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Oh now we are taking everything at face value? You guys liked to create your own interpretations of things Trump says. I guess it's just one sided. 

I forgot we need to turn off our brains when we listen to Kamala speak.

Sure.  She's pro Isreal and so are all democrats. Their pro gun rights.  Great for border security,  and they lowered prices for everyone. My bad. 

you cry with the best of them. don't stop. 

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Lucky for you, yours always is.

Mine is in hyperdrive at all times. 

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Pretty sure he means his colleagues, not his patients. Otherwise, another very astute observation!

Why does it even matter what colleagues in medicine are voting for? It depends on the area the hospital is in. 

My colleagues in medicine are very pro Trump.  We have a ton of doctors, PAs, NPs, nurses, etc who were antimask during covid, and anti covid Vax. 

 

3 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

you cry like the best of them. don't stop. 

Did you see the person that complained they had to see a Trump sign out their window? Lol. You guys really can't be beat when it comes to that. 

1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said:

This guys doesn’t have a huge one, but I get to see it from my back yard. 

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I'm sorry you have to go through that :sad: 

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Why does it even matter what colleagues in medicine are voting for? It depends on the area the hospital is in. 

My colleagues in medicine are very pro Trump.  We have a ton of doctors, PAs, NPs, nurses, etc who were antimask during covid, and anti covid Vax. 

 

"I know a guy!" Hahahaha, yeah sure you do, Dizzy.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

We have a ton of doctors, PAs, NPs, nurses, etc who were antimask during covid, and anti covid Vax. 

 

Where do you practice medicine? I am not going there.

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Why does it even matter what colleagues in medicine are voting for? It depends on the area the hospital is in. 

My colleagues in medicine are very pro Trump.  We have a ton of doctors, PAs, NPs, nurses, etc who were antimask during covid, and anti covid Vax. 

Sounds like you know a lot of morons in medicine. Probably why they have to work in Hazelton away from academic medicine centers. Sad!

2 minutes ago, toolg said:

Where do you practice medicine? I am not going there.

You won't anyway. 

6 minutes ago, Gannan said:

That's where my wife is. She thinks Trump will win because the country will never vote for a black woman for president. I was worried Obama would lose in 2008 for the same reason. I thought people would tell pollsters they were voting for Obama but when the time came the would vote for McCain. 

Eh, 2008 was a bit unique though due to the surrounding circumstances. But 2012 was closer to what I expected there. It was not at all surprising to me that Biden beat Trump by a larger margin than Obama beat Romney by. Think about that for a second... Joe F'ing Biden outperformed Barrack Obama. Sure you can say Trump was so reviled that it made it a layup for Biden, but the states where it really mattered where far closer than they should have been (including Wisconsin!) 

The problem here is that people, by and large, are morons. They think the economy is in bad shape despite virtually every single metric indicating the opposite. They think Biden is solely to blame for inflation despite the fact that Trump contributed more to the national debt than Biden has. They sure as ish don't have money in the market so they have no clue on how well it's been performing since Biden was elected. 

And that's not even getting into the racism and misogyny aspects. I was supremely confident heading into 2020 based on the polling and was still shocked at how close states like PA and WI ended up being. Likewise, I was floored that Biden won GA so it just reinforced that crazy ish can happen in either direction.

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

Sounds like you know a lot of morons in medicine. Probably why they have to work in Hazelton away from academic medicine centers. Sad. 

There are morons everywhere. Precisely my point, proving why your anecdote is worthless. 

6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Why does it even matter what colleagues in medicine are voting for? It depends on the area the hospital is in. 

My colleagues in medicine are very pro Trump

 

That's probably because you tape ankles for high school volleyball players in bumb-F PA.

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We have a ton of "doctors", PAs, NPs, nurses, etc who were antimask during covid, and anti covid Vax. 

fixed that for you

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

There are morons everywhere. Precisely my point, proving why your anecdote is worthless. 

As is your opinion about who Jews should be voting for friendo. I'll tell you what, let's circle back to this after the election and we can see if how many Jews switch their vote for the conservative white nationalist. 

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13 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

 

 We have a ton of doctors, PAs, NPs, nurses, etc who were antimask during covid, and anti covid Vax. 

 

:roll:

35 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I don't know a single Jewish person who is voting for Trump. And I'm in medicine. This obsession with Jewish voters by the MAGA crowd is hilarious. It's not gonna happen guys. I'm sure there are plenty that vote conservative but Trump is not winning over the rest en mass. 

I don't know a single Jewish person who is voting for Trump either. They are all reform Jews. Among Hasidic Jews? I don't know because they keep mostly to themselves. It seems Trump has received vocal support from some Hasidic Jews. And they wear payot and dress conservatively so they look "Jewish". Reform Jews look like everyone else. Overall I think it's just another false narrative. Get support from a small subset of people that look the part, and voila the whole population is now in his pocket. 

More signage on the way too the dry cleaners and back. 
 

 

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