Also, let's all just be clear about what's going to happen. Harris will "win" on November 5th, and then all hell is going to break lose. Local election officials that have been put in place since 2020 will refuse to certify results in certain counties in swing states. Trump and his acolytes will cry fraud and motivate his morons to violence. Vote counting centers may be attacked, and governors and secretaries of state will be threatened with violence. Alternate electors will be adopted, and they will do everything they can to cause chaos.

Just buy VIX calls and watch the fun.

1 minute ago, SPIDER-MAN said:

What in the actual F?! 

This is why Trump will win if he wins. All this BS.

2024 brings back fake electors for Donald Trump, even some facing charges for 2020

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/2024-brings-back-fake-electors-for-donald-trump-even-some-facing-charges-for-2020/ar-AA1qTnlg?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=d1966d8f95bf416db1e3db48a0bc5703&ei=8#comments

Fourteen so-called fake electors who participated in former President Donald Trump’s 2020 scheme to throw the election results into chaos will once again serve as electors for Trump in 2024, including several who currently face criminal charges. With input from the Trump campaign and the Republican National Committee, Republican state parties in Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Mexico and Nevada have renominated 14 of the 84 fake electors from the 2020 election. Wisconsin's electors aren't publicly available until the first week of October, according to state election officials. A legal settlement bars unauthorized Wisconsin 2020 electors from serving as electors for Trump again.

Gov or SoS have to sign off on the electors. These morons are just putting themselves in legal jeopardy for no benefit.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

Gov or SoS have to sign off on the electors. These morons are just putting themselves in legal jeopardy for no benefit.

The issue is what happens when county level officials don't send the results to the SoS?

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

I've tried,dude. Believe me, I've tried. But you won't get the help you need so I don't know what else to tell you. If you're voting for him after pretending you were above it for the past couple years, than you're either a liar or you're in need of help. There is no third option.

I'm not in need of help for thinking she's horrible. You can push that projection on me as much as you want. Again, if I was pretending or lying then why in the middle of August would I suddenly decide to stop playing a game? What changed? I can't stomach her or imagine her in office, so yeah I'm sure as hell voting for him. Do I think my one vote will matter? No. Do I care what you or others think? No, or I wouldn't have said something. I knew darn well how you and others would respond. I say what I mean. 

6 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Enough with the two sides BS. There's no comparison between the level of brainwashed idiocy in the GOP vs. the Democrats. And I was a Republican. 

im still here man. if the gop ever gets away from this dipsheet and goes back to being conservative, i'll be there to welcome you back, should you want to return. 

Just now, Diehardfan said:

I'm not in need of help for thinking she's horrible. You can push that projection on me as much as you want. Again, if I was pretending or lying then why in the middle of August would I suddenly decide to stop playing a game? What changed? I can't stomach her or imagine her in office, so yeah I'm sure as hell voting for him. Do I think my one vote will matter? No. Do I care what you or others think? No, or I wouldn't have said something. I knew darn well how you and others would respond. I say what I mean. 

You're voting for a guy who has literally tried to overthrow election results. This whole "I can't stomach her" thing is silly.

4 minutes ago, Lloyd said:

Well Kamala's got some policies he disagrees with, so what else can he do?!?!

She's allowing those Haitians to steal all the geese in Springfield!

Just now, Paul852 said:

You're voting for a guy who has literally tried to overthrow election results. This whole "I can't stomach her" thing is silly.

Yeah, but still...that Oprah interview didn't really sit well with him, so what're you gonna do?

1 minute ago, Paul852 said:

You're voting for a guy who has literally tried to overthrow election results. This whole "I can't stomach her" thing is silly.

Over broken glass, so I'm not on the fence or hiding it. I get the other side of it. Just my opinion. 

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

The issue is what happens when county level officials don't send the results to the SoS?

That's the issue, but it won't be because of fake electors. It'll be because of stalled certification.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Over broken glass, so I'm not on the fence or hiding it

So you are voting for a literal enemy of democracy. You at least acknowledge that, right?

32 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

 

She's engaged the Ryan Pizza who was fired from the New Yorker in 2017. What a pair. 

 

2 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

So you are voting for a literal enemy of democracy. You at least acknowledge that, right?

He still can't admit that the "Haitians eat pets" thing was a complete fabrication that he fell for, you really think he's gonna concede anything on Trump being a threat to democracy?

2 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

So you are voting for a literal enemy of democracy. You at least acknowledge that, right?

I'm voting for someone people I disagree with think that about him. Happily. Over glass. No middle ground. No oblivious of what people I disagree with think and couldn't care less.

30 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Couple how can you help us

Her I was born in a middle class family 

Woman "What is your specific plan for addressing childcare costs?"

Trump:

31 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

You gosh damn right. Over broken glass to vote against her. But 10k people were watching hahhahhaa so I'm sure that will help her. More people watch Hannity every night than your chick. If the media wasn't holding her up and protecting her this wouldn't be close. Will she win? Thanks to them I wouldn't bet against it. 

Over broken glass to vote for a knot zee loving business man who steals from children's charities.

 

2 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Over broken glass to vote for a knot zee loving business man who steals from children's charities.

 

Again, things I disagree with, but over glass. In four years he will be gone. In four years with her our republic won't ever be the same. 

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

I'm voting for someone people I disagree with think that about him. Happily. Over glass. No middle ground. No oblivious of what people I disagree with think and couldn't care less.

So you do not believe Trump went through great lengths to overturn an election with no evidence of fraud whatsoever. What is there to "disagree" with?

Here's the really hysterical part about people who claim to be voting for Trump because Harris is so awful. Yes, most of Harris' policy positions are terrible, but they're within the normal bounds of progressive idiocy. Things like offering down payment assistance to 1st time homebuyers, or cracking down on price gouging (which doesn't exist), and of course raising taxes on the people who already pay all the taxes in this country. These are all bad ideas, just like most of what Biden did made things worse. But worse within normal parameters. Trump, by the way, has adopted a lot of these awful policies, specifically price controls. And he adds the idiocy of tariffs that would make Bernie Sanders proud.

You know what Harris doesn't support? Handing Ukraine to Russia. Leaving NATO. Withdrawing from America's vital role as leader of the free world post WW2. Placating tyrants. 

Oh...and she didn't attempt a friggin coup. 

So enough with the both sides crap. Harris sucks, and Trump is infinitely worse. Harris is herpes, but Trump is full blown AIDS.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Again, things I disagree with, but over glass 

Americans used to hate knot zees. Now they crawl over broken glass to vote for them.

I weep for America.

5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

That's the issue, but it won't be because of fake electors. It'll be because of stalled certification.

And then what happens when they don't submit electors at all? The Electoral Count Act made improvements, but most state laws didn't change.

Just now, Paul852 said:

So you do not believe Trump went through great lengths to overturn an election with no evidence of fraud whatsoever. What is there to "disagree" with?

I am aware of the stuff leveled against him and I see our borders, what illegals our doing to our cities, what Dem catch and release policies are doing to our cities, and I don't give a crap what happens I'm voting against her. 

1 minute ago, Toastrel said:

Americans used to hate knot zees. Now they crawl over broken glass to vote for them.

I weep for America.

Me too for different reasons. Whatever happens I'm not sure where we go from here with the divide. 

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

Here's the really hysterical part about people who claim to be voting for Trump because Harris is so awful. Yes, most of Harris' policy positions are terrible, but they're within the normal bounds of progressive idiocy. Things like offering down payment assistance to 1st time homebuyers, or cracking down on price gouging (which doesn't exist), and of course raising taxes on the people who already pay all the taxes in this country. These are all bad ideas, just like most of what Biden did made things worse. But worse within normal parameters. Trump, by the way, has adopted a lot of these awful policies, specifically price controls. And he adds the idiocy of tariffs that would make Bernie Sanders proud.

You know what Harris doesn't support? Handing Ukraine to Russia. Leaving NATO. Withdrawing from America's vital role as leader of the free world post WW2. Placating tyrants. 

Oh...and she didn't attempt a friggin coup. 

So enough with the both sides crap. Harris sucks, and Trump is infinitely worse. Harris is herpes, but Trump is full blown AIDS.

Diehard is very, VERY upset by the transgender illegal alien prison surgeries. Seriously. No joke. That's his biggest hangup from what I remember.

Maga be like