55 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Because a large number of people in this country are friggin morons who think voting machines and computers are being hacked by Hugo Chavez. From beyond the grave. 

Then perhaps Democrats should stop enabling the narrative by blocking voter ID laws. It's ridiculous that a small country in Africa many probably never heard of before can supply their citizens with IDs, but our mighty country can't. Nothing nefarious is going on? Awesome, then there is no problem with requiring them to vote.

I don't want to hear about hardships getting one either because again, if people in that small country can bike, walk, or drive the long distances they probably had to go to get one then Americans can find a way to go a few city blocks. Accommodations can be made for the very small number of people who can't leave their homes.

We waste tax dollars on far less important things. It will be a good service for people anyway because of the long list of other things that require IDs.

 

 

12 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

Everyone that isn’t pro-genocide is Hamas.  Including actual Jews.  

Nah, it is just you Hamoss

Just so I'm understanding this correctly... we're advocating for people... human beings... to do mathematics faster and more accurately than machines? And do it with less risk of cheating?

Am I reading this last page right, chat?

3 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Then perhaps Democrats should stop enabling the narrative by blocking voter ID laws. It's ridiculous that a small country in Africa many probably never heard of before can supply their citizens with IDs, but our mighty country can't. Nothing nefarious is going on? Awesome, then there is no problem with requiring them to vote.

I don't want to hear about hardships getting one either because again, if people in that small country can bike, walk, or drive the long distances they probably had to go to get one then Americans can find a way to go a few city blocks. Accommodations can be made for the very small number of people who can't leave their homes.

We waste tax dollars on far less important things. It will be a good service for people anyway because of the long list of other things that require IDs.

 

If you're a fan of voter identification then you should take a gander at how voter registration works. It's pretty neat.

8 hours ago, Procus said:

You people are too much.  You only see the world through your own little lens and ignore the history of elections in this country.  We managed ok before electronic voting machines manufactured by dominion

You’re ignoring the fact that our elections are secure. You are ignoring the fact that machines are faster and more accurate than humans. You are ignoring the fact that ID is required to register to vote. You are ignoring the fact that you have to show ID the first time you vote in a precinct. You are ignoring the fact that election security was not an issue until Trump. He even cried about it in 2016 when he lost the popular vote. He’s a loser and a cry baby. 

8 hours ago, Procus said:

You people are too much.  You only see the world through your own little lens and ignore the history of elections in this country.  We managed ok before electronic voting machines manufactured by dominion

Do.. do you think we went from hand counting to Dominion?

8 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

80, 84, 88, 92, 96, every state but Florida in 2000, and 2004 never happened or if they did they disparaged voters because I guess they think people in cities are too stupid to count along with being too stupid to get ID. People in Burkina Faso vote with paper ballots and have needed ID to vote since Clinton, but I guess they have better math classes in schools and more money and are better equipped than the US to get people ID. 

 

Every claim about Dominion or any other vote counting machines has been definitively disproven in the only place the truth matters anymore: the courts. Anywhere that hand counts were done as parts of recounts showed that voting machines were absolutely accurate. And where hand counts differed it was typically in favor of Biden. 

The reason votes in past elections were trusted is because we didn't have a selfish a-hole at the top of the ticket screaming about stolen elections with absolutely zero credible evidence supporting the claim. 

The only - ONLY - reason people think there is a problem with how we count votes is because Trump complains about every goddamn thing that doesn't go his way like a toddler, and enough of his supporters believe him over facts and reality. 

How this moron has convinced a great many good people about pretty much anything is baffling to me. 

47 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

You’re ignoring the fact that our elections are secure. You are ignoring the fact that machines are faster and more accurate than humans. You are ignoring the fact that ID is required to register to vote. You are ignoring the fact that you have to show ID the first time you vote in a precinct. You are ignoring the fact that election security was not an issue until Trump. He even cried about it in 2016 when he lost the popular vote. He’s a loser and a cry baby. 

I remember a lot of people complaining about an election won by Bush. Long before Trump entered the conversation. 

9 hours ago, Procus said:

You people are too much.  You only see the world through your own little lens and ignore the history of elections in this country.  We managed ok before electronic voting machines manufactured by dominion

You're clueless is the issue. 

I outlined the reality of hand counts. When Georgia did a hand count in 2020 it didn't conclude until Nov 20.

The hand count verified that the counts from electronic voting machines was accurate. 

The fraudit in Arizona verified that the counts from their voting machines was accurate.

There were mechanical voting machines in service for decades prior to the electronic voting machines now in place in some areas. 

There have been exactly zero cases of voter fraud related to electronic machines remotely  widespread enough to swing an election. 

Regardless of the mechanism to collect and tabulate votes, there will always be some small number of invalid votes cast. 

If anything electronic measure are far better at capturing that. Because with electronic voting any attempt a person makes cast multiple ballots with the same identity will be caught. 

Prior to electronic voting systems it was much much much easier for individual bad actors to maintain ballot access in multiple precincts and to vote multiple times in a single election.

Nothing in your position has anything to do with reality. There is no evidence you can point to that shows electronic systems are less accurate than mechanical vote tabulators. And pure old-school paper ballots in a box are a non-starter for various reasons, not the least of which being it's easily the least secure way to run an election and the most susceptible to widespread fraud and ballot stuffing.

No, you do not lean on evidence to make a case "counselor". You lean on feelings and unfounded allegations from an orange criminal who's incapable of accepting an outcome he doesn't like.

36 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I remember a lot of people complaining about an election won by Bush. Long before Trump entered the conversation. 

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. 

12 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

I'm good with 4 years of anyone but her but I'm sure someone will jump at that

 

Sure, even a knot zee loving felon, who is already unable to visit half our allies.

 

One candidate is talking about the crowd at the debate going wild.

There was no audience.

42 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. 

You can laugh at yourself.  It disproves your assertion that no one complained about elections before Trump.

"FELONS CAN'T VOTE!"

says the rapist

37 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

"FELONS CAN'T VOTE!"

Looks like New York’s law will supersede Florida and Trump will be eligible to vote.

What standards govern eligibility to vote after a felony conviction? 

• A felony conviction in Florida for murder or a sexual offense makes a person ineligible to vote in Florida unless and until the person’s right to vote is restored by the State Clemency Board.
• For any other felony conviction in Florida, a person is eligible to register and vote if the person has completed all terms of his or her sentence. Completion of the sentence means:
  • Prison or jail time;
  • Parole, probation, or other forms of supervision; and
  • Payment of the total amount of all fines, fees, costs, and restitution ordered as part of the felony sentence.

Note:  Such person may alternatively apply to have his or her right to vote restored by the State Clemency Board. 

• A felony conviction in another state makes a person ineligible to vote in Florida only if the conviction would make the person ineligible to vote in the state where the person was convicted.
• An offense on which a person was not adjudicated guilty does not make a person ineligible to vote.
• A misdemeanor conviction does not make a person ineligible to vote.

 

I see the "facts not feelings" crowd still really really wants to believe in Democrat election fraud without any evidence to back it up. Sad. 

Though, in their defense the first place I think of when I think of election integrity, it's West Africa. 

 

TRUMP DEBATE PREP TEAM AT WORK

Trump’s businesses are raking in millions of dollars from Republican political campaigns – including his own

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/23/politics/trump-businesses-campaign-spending-invs/index.html

Of course, Donald is spending campaign funds to enrich himself, and of course, his dope supporters are not only okay with it, they keep donating.

If only you could look at Trump with they eyes you save for anything left of Victor Orban.

 

Trump: I saved Flavored Vaping in 2019, and it greatly helped people get off smoking. I raised the age to 21, keeping it away from the "kids.” Kamala and Joe want everything banned, killing small businesses all over the Country. I’ll save Vaping again!

11 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

No, remind me

Yes you do, your KDS won't let you say it out loud. Sad. 

3 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

How this moron has convinced a great many good people about pretty much anything is baffling to me. 

Because they aren’t good people. 

3 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Yes you do, your KDS won't let you say it out loud. Sad. 

Seriously,  I don't remember 

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Seriously,  I don't remember 

Seriously, you do and are lying about it. Absolutely pathetic.

9 hours ago, lynched1 said:

Which one is running for office in these pictures?

Morons look down on you, thinking, "Damn, that boy is a real idiot."