3 hours ago, Gannan said:

Hand counting 10 of millions of ballots in a few hours? 

In 2020, considerably less votes than 10 million.  And yes, you can hand count on a precinct by precinct level

2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Somewhere close to 5 million will vote in Georgia.

Counting every ballot by hand is going to require a counter and a witness, and probably will be hand counted twice. 

Sustained pace for a pair of counters to validate and agree on the dozen or whatever races that are probably on each ballot is going to take what, at least 10s/ballot? 

So 2 people count and validate 6 ballots/minute. That's 360 ballots/hour, or 180 ballots/man/hour. 

5,000,000/180 = 27.8k man hours. 

You'd need about 3,500 ballot counters to do this in an 8 hour period. Not counting every time some partisan observer who's also present contests a ballot. 

You people are too much.  You only see the world through your own little lens and ignore the history of elections in this country.  We managed ok before electronic voting machines manufactured by dominion

10 minutes ago, Procus said:

In 2020, considerably less votes than 10 million.  And yes, you can hand count on a precinct by precinct level

 

2 hours ago, Boogyman said:

KDS. Remember when people started saying that to you about about Trump and how you would respond?

No, remind me

39 minutes ago, Procus said:

In 2020, considerably less votes than 10 million.  And yes, you can hand count on a precinct by precinct level

3rd world countries do this, I'm pretty sure Australia does it, and so did we in the last 40 years and we had results on election night outside of hanging chads and without early voting. 

51 minutes ago, Procus said:

You people are too much.  You only see the world through your own little lens and ignore the history of elections in this country.  We managed ok before electronic voting machines manufactured by dominion

80, 84, 88, 92, 96, every state but Florida in 2000, and 2004 never happened or if they did they disparaged voters because I guess they think people in cities are too stupid to count along with being too stupid to get ID. People in Burkina Faso vote with paper ballots and have needed ID to vote since Clinton, but I guess they have better math classes in schools and more money and are better equipped than the US to get people ID. 

 

I don't know if anybody follows this guy or not, but he has been a beast in the courtroom.

 

37 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

3rd world countries do this, I'm pretty sure Australia does it, and so did we in the last 40 years and we had results on election night outside of hanging chads and without early voting. 

Is this TnT an absolute imbecile or what

11 minutes ago, Procus said:

Is this TnT an absolute imbecile or what

We can put a man on the moon, but can't accomplish what Burkina Faso has accomplished with IDs or match their math skills counting ballots. 

50 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

80, 84, 88, 92, 96, every state but Florida in 2000, and 2004 never happened or if they did they disparaged voters because I guess they think people in cities are too stupid to count along with being too stupid to get ID. People in Burkina Faso vote with paper ballots and have needed ID to vote since Clinton, but I guess they have better math classes in schools and more money and are better equipped than the US to get people ID. 

 

I can speak for PA in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s. We had analog machines with levers. So the manual count was opening the back of the machine and reading what the dials said. It took about 2 minutes. Those hanging chads ballots in Florida were fed through a machine that counted them....hence the chads. So the idea that it's no sweat to read 5 million paper ballots one by one in an hour or 2 is retarded. When we make fun of you guys for being ignorant and stupid...this is the kind of thing we are referring to. 

16 minutes ago, Gannan said:

I can speak for PA in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s. We had analog machines with levers. So the manual count was opening the back of the machine and reading what the dials said. It took about 2 minutes. Those hanging chads ballots in Florida were fed through a machine that counted them....hence the chads. So the idea that it's no sweat to read 5 million paper ballots one by one in an hour or 2 is retarded. When we make fun of you guys for being ignorant and stupid...this is the kind of thing we are referring to. 

First, I appreciate you pointing that out at the end. We disagree, but I think your intent was kind.

I'm not saying an hour or two. Hire the people necessary and get it done. If 3rd world countries can count ballots in one day so can we. Plus, is this for every ballot or just mail in ballots? I'm not talking about you, because I think you are very reasonable, but I'm tired of excuses of why election integrity measures can't happen. 

 

 

If it's good enough for Burkina Faso, it's good enough for me! That's what I always say!

2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

If it's good enough for Burkina Faso, it's good enough for me! That's what I always say!

I have a magnet on my fridge saying that. 

1 minute ago, Gannan said:

I can speak for PA in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s. We had analog machines with levers. So the manual count was opening the back of the machine and reading what the dials said. It took about 2 minutes. Those hanging chads ballots in Florida were fed through a machine that counted them....hence the chads. So the idea that it's no sweat to read 5 million paper ballots one by one in an hour or 2 is retarded. When we make fun of you guys for being ignorant and stupid...this is the kind of thing we are referring to. 

That wasn't the only problem with the Palm Beach ballots. It wasn't straightforward where the name lined up with the hole you were supposed to punch because the names alternated to either side of the ballot page. If you weren't super fastidious you could easily punch the wrong hole (lol). Then, when you pulled the ballot card out of the machine, it wasn't immediately apparent if you did what was intended. It was a very stupid ballot design (almost, but not quite, as stupid as @EagleVA).

4 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

If it's good enough for Burkina Faso, it's good enough for me! That's what I always say!

So let me get this staraight.  There are folks posting in this forum who think after the polls close at 7 or 8 p.m. on a Tuesday night that a crew of people is going to come in and count all the ballots by hand in an hour or two?   

2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

So let me get this staraight.  There are folks posting in this forum who think after the polls close at 7 or 8 p.m. on a Tuesday night that a crew of people is going to come in and count all the ballots by hand in an hour or two?   

Where is the hour or two coming from? Do you know how many countries around the world count ballots by hand? One state in the US can't match what they can do for their mail-in-ballots? 

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

Where is the hour or two coming from? Do you know how many countries around the world count ballots by hand? One state in the US can't match what they can do for their mail-in-ballots? 

I’m not sure why we would be doing by hand what a computer can do in a handful of seconds.

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

I’m not sure why we would be doing by hand what a computer can do in a handful of seconds.

that's how I justify my Handy

1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

I’m not sure why we would be doing by hand what a computer can do in a handful of seconds.

Because a large number of people in this country are friggin morons who think voting machines and computers are being hacked by Hugo Chavez. From beyond the grave. 

55 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Because a large number of people in this country are friggin morons who think voting machines and computers are being hacked by Hugo Chavez. From beyond the grave. 

Then perhaps Democrats should stop enabling the narrative by blocking voter ID laws. It's ridiculous that a small country in Africa many probably never heard of before can supply their citizens with IDs, but our mighty country can't. Nothing nefarious is going on? Awesome, then there is no problem with requiring them to vote.

I don't want to hear about hardships getting one either because again, if people in that small country can bike, walk, or drive the long distances they probably had to go to get one then Americans can find a way to go a few city blocks. Accommodations can be made for the very small number of people who can't leave their homes.

We waste tax dollars on far less important things. It will be a good service for people anyway because of the long list of other things that require IDs.

 

 

12 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

Everyone that isn’t pro-genocide is Hamas.  Including actual Jews.  

Nah, it is just you Hamoss

Just so I'm understanding this correctly... we're advocating for people... human beings... to do mathematics faster and more accurately than machines? And do it with less risk of cheating?

Am I reading this last page right, chat?