33 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

bring something to counter what I posted from CNN.

3 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

I'm not even kidding when I say Donald Trump really has changed things dramatically when it comes to polling. And I know that you know that.

We actually agree on that. As WGB said many people voting for Trump don't want to admit it. I'd say in conservative areas people don't admit to liking Harris. I saw one of her signs the other day in a very red town and thought that person is brave...not too long before I saw someone drive past with a Trump flag on the back of their F-150.

 

46 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Let me help you.

So again based on that what makes you or anyone think Harris is going to win?

You at least said favorability. Vaild. Easy to call someone a troll but I'm asking based on facts. She is not where they were or where she needs to be.

The lack of support for Trump in his own party.

The fact that he is spending campaign funds stupidly.

The fact that his rallies are poorly attended, and those that are there, start leaving half way through.

 

 

These morons just lie. Mouth opens, lies come out, regardless of how stupid, or even if the picture shows how full of crap they are.

23 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

So if CNN is Fox lite then I'm guessing we are also calling ABC News MSNBC lite with their negative coverage of Trump and the fact they are run by her friend and sorority sister? So we basically just have NBC and CBS that we can accept on the forum?

NBC is as close as objective as we can get, but they all lean right. Trump's behavior is completely normalized by all news outlets. He is guilty of raping a woman. He led an armed insurrection to try to overthrow the government. He doesn't know where he is half the time. Whenever Biden got confused they covered it for days. With Trump they don't even mention any of it. 

As far as polls go, you have to look at the actual sample. Like the one KZ posted in Quinnipiac is total crap. It doesn't provide any demographic information about the people they polled. A poll is more likely to be accurate if the sample is actually representative of the population. For example one CNN poll that had Trump 5 points ahead of Biden had a sample which was 70% republican. If I ask a hundred people who they plan to vote for and 70 of them are registered republicans of course the result is going to put Trump ahead. The media is not fair and objective. They are all owned by corporations whose only function is to try to get you to consume more media. They want you to think this election is close, so you will keep watching. 

1 minute ago, Toastrel said:

The lack of support for Trump in his own party.

The fact that he is spending campaign funds stupidly.

The fact that his rallies are poorly attended, and those that are there, start leaving half way through.

The really interesting thing will be Trump, along with his daughter in law, completely gutted the RNC's get out the vote operation in order to create an election integrity task force, Because the man-baby can't accept he lost in 2020.

They've turned the GOTV operations over to 3rd parties like Turning Point USA, a group with no history or experience in such efforts. In an election that will be decided by turnout, this is a potentially disastrous move.

6 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

The really interesting thing will be Trump, along with his daughter in law, completely gutted the RNC's get out the vote operation in order to create an election integrity task force, Because the man-baby can't accept he lost in 2020.

They've turned the GOTV operations over to 3rd parties like Turning Point USA, a group with no history or experience in such efforts. In an election that will be decided by turnout, this is a potentially disastrous move.

I am hearing, but have not yet verified, that people paid to be at the rally, have to stay 10 minutes, but as soon as the venmo hits their accounts, they leave, en masse.

 

Still running it down, but it is easy to believe.

3 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

The lack of support for Trump in his own party.

The fact that he is spending campaign funds stupidly.

The fact that his rallies are poorly attended, and those that are there, start leaving half way through.

Also it needs to be said that the guy who is talking is a Trump supporter. He actually tried to say Trump won the debate. He's on the record saying Trump is one of America's greatest  presidents. CNN is not news. It's an arm of the Trump campaign. 

6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

We actually agree on that. As WGB said many people voting for Trump don't want to admit it. I'd say in conservative areas people don't admit to liking Harris. I saw one of her signs the other day in a very red town and thought that person is brave...not too long before I saw someone drive past with a Trump flag on the back of their F-150.

 

Not only that, Trump motivates people just to vote AGAINST him. I'd say not to assume anything based on polls.

 

The only problem, it was Georgia.

2 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Not only that, Trump motivates people just to vote AGAINST him. I'd say not to assume anything based on polls.

Fair point. Another good answer.

2 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

 

The only problem, it was Georgia.

 

I love coming in here to read through this thread and see a half dozen different dipshts post the same tweet over and over  AHHH SOMETHING WITH ORANGE MAN HAPPENED MUST POST TWEET IMMEDIATELY LET THE WEINER PINCHING COMMENCE AHHH 

 

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8 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

The really interesting thing will be Trump, along with his daughter in law, completely gutted the RNC's get out the vote operation in order to create an election integrity task force, Because the man-baby can't accept he lost in 2020.

They've turned the GOTV operations over to 3rd parties like Turning Point USA, a group with no history or experience in such efforts. In an election that will be decided by turnout, this is a potentially disastrous move.

In an election that might come down to thousands or tens of thousands of votes in a handful of swing states, cutting down on rampant fraudulent votes is probably the single most important thing any republican candidate could do. 

2 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I love coming in here to read through this thread and see a half dozen different dipshts post the same tweet over and over  AHHH SOMETHING WITH ORANGE MAN HAPPENED MUST POST TWEET IMMEDIATELY LET THE WEINER PINCHING COMMENCE AHHH 

Did you see that Trump might kill Romeny's grandkids though? Absolute banger.

Adding on to the GOTV stuff, one of the reasons in 2020 that the race was tighter than the polls indicated was that the Democrats, in response to COVID, changed their entire GOTV operation to avoid in person contact -- they used phone banking, text messages, etc. Meanwhile, the GOP kept their operations mainly unchanged (Trump was holding in person rallies as well). Democrats have long believed this caused their underperformance, and they are going back to the Obama-era GOTV operations. In a polarized electorate, turnout is the key.

12 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

The lack of support for Trump in his own party.

The fact that he is spending campaign funds stupidly.

The fact that his rallies are poorly attended, and those that are there, start leaving half way through.

All this. And here's another thing lost amongst the daily arguments...Where's Mike Pence?  JD Vance emerged as the VP because Pence had to withdraw support from Trump....because Trump almost got him and his family killed.  You got people talking about policies, and JD Vance's weirdness, and whatever....and we forget, Pence—a Vice President—almost F'n died. It really puts a nice little bow on all the leaps of logic and common sense these MAGA supporters gotta make every day.  

 

11 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

 

You and Gannon gave really intelligent answers with points that make sense.

5 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I love coming in here to read through this thread and see a half dozen different dipshts post the same tweet over and over  AHHH SOMETHING WITH ORANGE MAN HAPPENED MUST POST TWEET IMMEDIATELY LET THE WEINER PINCHING COMMENCE AHHH 

I actually agree. Trump shitting himself and forgetting where he is isn't really news, it happens every day. 

6 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Did you see that Trump might kill Romeny's grandkids though? Absolute banger.

I did - twice in one post!  And when Toaster and JSdirtstar's brains catch up to what day it is, we'll see it at least two more times!  Probably once by ToolG and Tweek as well  

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

Yeah, cause reverting to watermelon in a story with black people doesn't have racial undertones. 

I guess they obviously do to some people.

1 minute ago, Lloyd said:

All this. And here's another thing lost amongst the daily arguments...Where's Mike Pence?  JD Vance emerged as the VP because Pence had to withdraw support from Trump....because Trump almost got him and his family killed.  You got people talking about policies, and JD Vance's weirdness, and whatever....and we forget, Pence—a Vice President—almost F'n died. It really puts a nice little bow on all the leaps of logic and common sense these MAGA supporters gotta make every day.  

 

Not a single former President or VP endorsed him. No one likes him except for a certain type of person.