27 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

If the Quinnipiac polls in Michigan are accurate I don't think she's up in PA at all.

The PA poll is among 857 "likely voters". Its not a huge sample size. However, among that group 5% more republicans than democrats. 7% more Trump voters form 2020 than Biden voters. So if she is ahead among that group, that says something. 

The Arizona poll is freaking weird. They have Trump up 5 and Gallego up 7. Are there really that many people in Arizona who think Lake is too crazy for them so they are voting Gallego, but then have no problem voting for Trump? Is Trump that much more of a saner candidate than Lake? 

Speaking of Arizona, can I just say how good it is for the entire country to get an openly corrupt piece of crap grandstander like Sinema out of the US senate? Even if the republicans control the senate, not having the attention whoring of Sinema and Mansion will be refreshing. 

1 hour ago, Paul852 said:

If the Quinnipiac polls in Michigan are accurate I don't think she's up in PA at all.

I have nothing to base this on, but I'd guess there are more extreme Christians in PA, and from what I'm reading many are pissed about Trump not supporting a total ban on abortion and are staying home. So I'm not sure I'd link the two states.

A thought provoking question for sure. Some believe it’s all the speed. Some have postulated that he’s slowly sheeting himself to death. Others say the dementia’s ravaged the part of his brain that controls his ass-hole. Either way, I just hope his family gets him the help he needs. 

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

The NYT polls are so whacky this year. Not sure what is up with them or what they're doing differently.

 

They've all been pretty bad over the last few years. They haven't adapted well to the shift from land lines. Less are responding when contacted as well.

3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

A thought provoking question for sure. Some believe it’s all the speed. Some have postulated that he’s slowly sheeting himself to death. Others say the dementia’s ravaged the part of his brain that controls his ass-hole. Either way, I just hope his family gets him the help he needs. 

MAGA should know that they  are really voting for Vance. There is no way Trump finishes his term if he wins. 

1 minute ago, Tnt4philly said:

MAGA should know that they  are really voting for Vance. There is no way Trump finishes his term if he wins. 

Exactly.  Trump's got a year left, tops.  He's visibly feeble and nearing the end.

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It's not the news, it's propaganda 

A lot of very well connected people have suggested there's a reason for this and it's really bad, like start making arrangements bad.  I'll leave it at that out of respect for the former President and his family.

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

A lot of very well connected people have suggested there's a reason for this and it's really bad, like start making arrangements bad.  I'll leave it at that out of respect for the former President and his family.

She released her medical records for a reason. Her internal polling must be bad.

13 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

MAGA should know that they  are really voting for Vance. There is no way Trump finishes his term if he wins. 

That's a positive either way

16 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

They've all been pretty bad over the last few years. They haven't adapted well to the shift from land lines. Less are responding when contacted as well.

Race comes down to NV and GA In my mind. I think the cities get her PA and WI with him getting AZ and Michigan. 

11 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

That's a positive either way

Yeah, that’s a matter of perspective. Vance would be worse than trump on many ways.  They are both lying scum. 

1 hour ago, Paul852 said:

If the Quinnipiac polls in Michigan are accurate I don't think she's up in PA at all.

NEPA is the new WiMiPa

9 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

Yeah, that’s a matter of perspective. Vance would be worse than trump on many ways.  They are both lying scum. 

When Trump dies a year from now, Vance's plan is a national abortion ban

 

48 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

When Trump dies a year from now, Vance's plan is a national abortion ban

 

Trump dying is the new clock cleaning

1 minute ago, Arthur Jackson said:

Trump dying is the new clock cleaning

We all die, Arthur.  But we don't all sheet our pants while giving a speech in Michigan.

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

We all die, Arthur.  But we don't all sheet our pants while giving a speech in Michigan.

True.

But what if we weren't necessarily giving a speech, but were stuck in the drive thru at a Shake Shack in Sterling Heights during rush hour?

 

just a hypothetical 

1 hour ago, VanHammersly said:

When Trump dies a year from now, Vance's plan is a national abortion ban

 

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What does that mean, though? I’ve heard you say that, but I don’t understand what that means. I think it’s by pursuing these pro-family policies. I think it’s by making it easier —

So it’s not by moderating your position on abortion? No. Rather than trying to say that we’re going to take options away from women, we want to make it easier for young women to choose life. But I think the way that you’re going to do that in 2024 in the United States of America is to let the states determine their own abortion policy. Now, again, part of that is protecting the ability of the states to make these decisions. Kamala Harris wants to re-nationalize the abortion conversation — go in the exact opposite direction. President Trump and I are saying, yes, sometimes these issues are messy. Sometimes, it’s going to be a little unusual for, say, California to have a different abortion policy than Alabama. But democracy is sometimes messy. We want to preserve the right of the states to make these decisions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/12/magazine/jd-vance-interview.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Rk4.zBQP.R_XEKm7C0-Lh&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
 

1 minute ago, RPeeteRules said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/12/magazine/jd-vance-interview.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Rk4.zBQP.R_XEKm7C0-Lh&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
 

"I certainly would like abortion to be illegal nationally,” Vance said in January 2022 on a podcast when running for Senate.

What's everyone's prediction for the outcome? Not what you want, but your honest prediction?

11 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

What's everyone's prediction for the outcome? Not what you want, but your honest prediction?

I think that Harris should win by a land slide, but I honestly have no clue how it will turn out. 

11 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

"I certainly would like abortion to be illegal nationally,” Vance said in January 2022 on a podcast when running for Senate.

Just curious why you posted a portion of the interview from the other day to justify saying his plan is a national abortion ban, when that’s not what is said in the interview?  Why didn’t you just post the podcast from 2022 originally?

10 minutes ago, RPeeteRules said:

Just curious why you posted a portion of the interview from the other day to justify saying his plan is a national abortion ban, when that’s not what is said in the interview?  Why didn’t you just post the podcast from 2022 originally?

Where do you think you are?

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

Race comes down to NV and GA In my mind. I think the cities get her PA and WI with him getting AZ and Michigan. 

If PA goes with "We'll be right back tomorrow" with results he's lost it. That said Kamala has inspired my kid to vote again this election but not for her.