February 2, 20242 yr Either way, if he comes back this year, he will be limited. I think I have finally jumped on the HE train. This off season might be the time.
February 2, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, Khani1 said: Either way, if he comes back this year, he will be limited. I think I have finally jumped on the HE train. This off season might be the time. I was really trying to enjoy his regular season this year though. But now we dont even get that. Im not sure we want Embiid having a menisectomy. Whatever longevity he could possibly have (minimal), will be shortened. His knees are bad WITH his meniscus in place. Imagine how bad theyll be when he has no meniscus. He should repair it, and hope to come back next season and make a run. Again. Till he is hurt again. On the 6ers end of things.... they should really push for him to repair it (so it doesnt scare other teams off as much), and trade him at the peak of his dominance. Because as I say every year, the regular season stats are meaningless. How AMAZING he IS, is meaningless. Because he will never, ever, be healthy for a post-season. He can score 70 points, play great defense, increase his playmaking for his teammates, and he still has literal 0 value for this team. Because he cant play in the post-season. If the 6ers dont trade him in the summer, and he gets injured again (we know he will), now his value is going to begin to plummet in the league. He is really close to the point in his career where he is going to have to become a ring chaser rather than the alpha franchise player. Summer will be our last chance to extract maximum value.
February 2, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: I was really trying to enjoy his regular season this year though. But now we dont even get that. Im not sure we want Embiid having a menisectomy. Whatever longevity he could possibly have (minimal), will be shortened. His knees are bad WITH his meniscus in place. Imagine how bad theyll be when he has no meniscus. He should repair it, and hope to come back next season and make a run. Again. Till he is hurt again. On the 6ers end of things.... they should really push for him to repair it (so it doesnt scare other teams off as much), and trade him at the peak of his dominance. Because as I say every year, the regular season stats are meaningless. How AMAZING he IS, is meaningless. Because he will never, ever, be healthy for a post-season. He can score 70 points, play great defense, increase his playmaking for his teammates, and he still has literal 0 value for this team. Because he cant play in the post-season. If the 6ers dont trade him in the summer, and he gets injured again (we know he will), now his value is going to begin to plummet in the league. He is really close to the point in his career where he is going to have to become a ring chaser rather than the alpha franchise player. Summer will be our last chance to extract maximum value. It blows my mind we even have to talk about this after the start this year (when we finally have a good coach/system/proper role players) but how many 1st’s would he be worth next off season, 6?
February 2, 20242 yr 12 minutes ago, Khani1 said: It blows my mind we even have to talk about this after the start this year (when we finally have a good coach/system/proper role players) but how many 1st’s would he be worth next off season, 6? I dont even know. Id have to imagine there would be teams willing to give everything they have.
February 2, 20242 yr This really complicates the trade deadline now. Option 1- menisectomy. Embiid is back in a few weeks and we are going for it this year. In that case, whatever the plan was at the deadline, should still be the plan. Option 2- Embiid sits the rest of the season. We may end up in the lottery. Not a terrible option. BUT- do we just go through the rest of the season as is? And hope to make a run at it next year? Or do we sell off all of our expiring contracts for picks, deal tobias for assets, and really tank it to begin the rebuild? I guess we kinda know the answer. The sell off would only happen if they plan to trade Embiid. They wont be smart enough to do that.
February 2, 20242 yr 14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: This really complicates the trade deadline now. Option 1- menisectomy. Embiid is back in a few weeks and we are going for it this year. In that case, whatever the plan was at the deadline, should still be the plan. Option 2- Embiid sits the rest of the season. We may end up in the lottery. Not a terrible option. BUT- do we just go through the rest of the season as is? And hope to make a run at it next year? Or do we sell off all of our expiring contracts for picks, deal tobias for assets, and really tank it to begin the rebuild? I guess we kinda know the answer. The sell off would only happen if they plan to trade Embiid. They wont be smart enough to do that. If Joel is back for next year, no MVP crap. Play 40-45 games, no back to backs, take the fines if you need. And then pray his body is good enough when we start the playoffs. Oh yeah, hope he doesn’t get injured in the playoffs. Basically, we are f’ed.
February 2, 20242 yr As I post that he is locking up Clarkson. It’s a shame he can’t shoot the 3 better. Maybe one more year to see if he can.
February 2, 20242 yr Sixers showing a lot of heart tonight. Maxey is beginning to remind me of AI when he drives the hoop - fearless.
February 2, 20242 yr Author 9 hours ago, Khani1 said: Springer is another Thybulle. What a waste. springer had a couple really dumb fouls last night...could've cost them the game.
February 2, 20242 yr 11 hours ago, HazletonEagle said: This really complicates the trade deadline now. Option 1- menisectomy. Embiid is back in a few weeks and we are going for it this year. In that case, whatever the plan was at the deadline, should still be the plan. Option 2- Embiid sits the rest of the season. We may end up in the lottery. Not a terrible option. BUT- do we just go through the rest of the season as is? And hope to make a run at it next year? Or do we sell off all of our expiring contracts for picks, deal tobias for assets, and really tank it to begin the rebuild? I guess we kinda know the answer. The sell off would only happen if they plan to trade Embiid. They wont be smart enough to do that. They are stubborn and won't trade him like they should. It's amazing how we can't have anything nice in this city.
February 2, 20242 yr I guess Maxey told the TNT guys he was going to sit another game. Not 100% but wanted to go with Embiid being out.
February 2, 20242 yr Nick Claxton is "more available than previously advertised" leading to the trade deadline. Considering our major injury news, and the need for a Center already existed anyway.... Claxton and Finney Smith may be a big impact move that doesnt actually cost a ton.
February 2, 20242 yr Author why does trae young not make all star teams? any theories? look at his numbers this season & last year. 26-27 ppg with 10-11 apg. weird.
February 2, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said: They are stubborn and won't trade him like they should. It's amazing how we can't have anything nice in this city. Thinking about the possible courses to take in the future with Embiid, I have thought of this: I have said repeatedly that he wont win a title until he is gone from Philly and is just a ring chasing vet who has a back seat to some other star/stars on a team. I guess it is possible to actually do that with him here. Again, this will all be a waste of typing because the team will be too dumb, and he may be too dumb. But they can trade off all of their expirings for picks. Trade Tobias for assets. Tank the rest of the season to improve their draft pick in June. And use assets and cap space to add stars in the summer, and next deadline. The team has to cut Embiid's usage rate and he needs to focus on defense and rebounding, scoring on putbacks, and of course occasionally run plays for him, but not to the degree the offense runs through him. It needs to be Maxey, and whichever star or stars they can acquire running games with each other. And Embiid in the dunker spot waiting for dumpoffs, or rebound putbacks. It will be tough to carry Embiid's salary as a role player and still build a team good enough around him that doesnt have to rely on him being healthy to win. But thats what they have to try to do until its time for his next contract. And see if he will take a more reasonable deal next time for what his role should be. If Embiid's ego is not ready for that hit yet, then you do just have to move on.
February 2, 20242 yr 24 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: Thinking about the possible courses to take in the future with Embiid, I have thought of this: I have said repeatedly that he wont win a title until he is gone from Philly and is just a ring chasing vet who has a back seat to some other star/stars on a team. I guess it is possible to actually do that with him here. Again, this will all be a waste of typing because the team will be too dumb, and he may be too dumb. But they can trade off all of their expirings for picks. Trade Tobias for assets. Tank the rest of the season to improve their draft pick in June. And use assets and cap space to add stars in the summer, and next deadline. The team has to cut Embiid's usage rate and he needs to focus on defense and rebounding, scoring on putbacks, and of course occasionally run plays for him, but not to the degree the offense runs through him. It needs to be Maxey, and whichever star or stars they can acquire running games with each other. And Embiid in the dunker spot waiting for dumpoffs, or rebound putbacks. It will be tough to carry Embiid's salary as a role player and still build a team good enough around him that doesnt have to rely on him being healthy to win. But thats what they have to try to do until its time for his next contract. And see if he will take a more reasonable deal next time for what his role should be. If Embiid's ego is not ready for that hit yet, then you do just have to move on. All he cares about is individual stats and you expect him to take a back seat? No chance. The 30/10 streaks, the 30+ game streaks, looking for another MVP, wanting everyone to like him and say how good he is….those are things he cares about. It’s never about a championship with him.
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