1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

I guess it depends on criteria.  Madden and Michael Oher are the only other possibilities.  I’d argue over half the people who know who John Madden is don’t even know he was an OL.  Coaching got him the announcing job and the announcing job got him the video game, which made him famous.  So I think he doesn’t count.

Oher got famous off an inspirational story, but no one really knows or recognizes the actual player.

Kelce is aided by the family situation and 1 degree of Taylor Swift separation, but it’s still centered on him actively being an NFL OL.

He also has one of the biggest podcasts in the world now…

If Kelce isn’t the most famous OL ever, he soon will be, even over Madden IMO.

Most likely his podcast evolves to bigger and bigger celebrities over the next decade or so, between its own popularity and Swift, and it becomes a true pop culture reference.

53 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t think Bryant is going to do much of anything, but I think one nice catch every 3 weeks with a couple irrelevant ones is about all we are going to get out of Julio Jones.

I agree with Julio not having a major impact on the field, but character and leadership matter a lot. You can tell guys like DeVonta and AJ look up to him. The whole offense running to him to celebrate his TD against Washington was cool. Dallas won’t be getting that with Bryant. I like the trend they’ve had the past two years with the mid-season signing of vets. Suh was a similar role last year for the defensive line. And I don’t think Julio is just there for a leadership role, I think he can really step up these next 3-4 games and fill the Goedert void. 

1 hour ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I agree with Julio not having a major impact on the field, but character and leadership matter a lot. You can tell guys like DeVonta and AJ look up to him. The whole offense running to him to celebrate his TD against Washington was cool. Dallas won’t be getting that with Bryant. I like the trend they’ve had the past two years with the mid-season signing of vets. Suh was a similar role last year for the defensive line. And I don’t think Julio is just there for a leadership role, I think he can really step up these next 3-4 games and fill the Goedert void. 

Julio may get more looks now that we're a man down.

51 minutes ago, judunno said:

Julio may get more looks now that we're a man down.

Good chance he and Oz both see and uptick. When goedert was out last year, Quez Watkins saw his target shares go up from 4% to 16% 

4 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

That shouldn't shock anyone, they've played nine games and played well for the entirety of one of them (Miami).

Their defense is absolutely atrocious, they can't get off the field on 3rd and forever, their pass defense is bottom 5 in a passing league, and they don't force turnovers.

The offense is a top three unit, and even they can't get their crap right for an entire game. Their red zone playcalling sucks and they are turning the ball over every GD game.

So combine a top 3 offense with what is probably a middling defense (saved from being a bottom 5 defense by a run defense that, while great on its own, is probably helped by the fact that teams would rather through for 350 yards and 3 touchdowns) and you get the 7th ranked team.

This team lost to the jets and damn near lost to the commanders (twice) and practically gave the game to Dallas who thankfully choked harder than the eagles did. The rough stretch after the bye will show who this team really is, for better or worse.

But literally all that needs to happen is Brian Johnson needs to be fired or removed from game planning/playcalling, and the offense needs to stop turning the ball over. The defense can blow chunks until the cows come home and I trust the offense can win shootouts. But they consistently put the ball on the ground (seriously, how is it such a problem this year) and we've had some untimely picks.

 

Tl;dr no one should be upset by that ranking the way this team has played through 9 games.

2 hours ago, devpool said:

Tl;dr no one should be upset by that ranking the way this team has played through 9 games.

 

Yup.  Really good run defense.  But the pass defense is nearly the worst in the league, they've given up the most passing yardage and given up the 2nd most passing TDs.  Yes the Eagles are 8-1, but I really have a hard time believing they can get through the playoffs with the 2nd worst pass defense in football (only 2nd worse by a single TD otherwise they'd be tied for the worst).  Yeah their run defense is amazing, but why would teams run the football at all against them when their WRs will be wide open all game?  That's why you have no name QBs looking like Tom Brady against them.

33 minutes ago, Eagles_ftw said:

 

Yup.  Really good run defense.  But the pass defense is nearly the worst in the league, they've given up the most passing yardage and given up the 2nd most passing TDs.  Yes the Eagles are 8-1, but I really have a hard time believing they can get through the playoffs with the 2nd worst pass defense in football (only 2nd worse by a single TD otherwise they'd be tied for the worst).  Yeah their run defense is amazing, but why would teams run the football at all against them when their WRs will be wide open all game?  That's why you have no name QBs looking like Tom Brady against them.

Good point. Is the run defence actually amazing or is it simply because they know they dont have to run because their QB can pass for 350+ every game?

34 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

Good point. Is the run defence actually amazing or is it simply because they know they dont have to run because their QB can pass for 350+ every game?

Probably a little bit of both. 

5 hours ago, devpool said:

 

Tl;dr no one should be upset by that ranking the way this team has played through 9 games.

Sure.  49ers have dropped 3 straight games.  Dolphins have not beaten a team with a winning record... but both have proven to be much better than the Eagles. 

 

Winning matters and despite all the issues this team has they still are winning and are a single late INT away from being 9-0.  But there are clearly 6 teams better than them.

35 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Sure.  49ers have dropped 3 straights games.  Dolphins have not beaten a team with a winning record... but both have proven to be much better than the Eagles. 

 

Winning matters and despite all the issues this team has they still are winning and are a single late INT away from being 9-0.  But there are clearly 6 teams better than them.

People are going to be saying the Eagles are barely a top 10 team all the way up to their Superbowl appearance lol.

4 minutes ago, judunno said:

People are going to be saying the Eagles are barely a top 10 team all the way up to their Superbowl appearance lol.

And that’s fine. Let them talk and put us down. Right now we are the best team in the NFL and until the Chiefs beat us that remains the case (I should add that’s IF the Chiefs beat us).

4 hours ago, devpool said:

That shouldn't shock anyone, they've played nine games and played well for the entirety of one of them (Miami).

Their defense is absolutely atrocious, they can't get off the field on 3rd and forever, their pass defense is bottom 5 in a passing league, and they don't force turnovers.

The offense is a top three unit, and even they can't get their crap right for an entire game. Their red zone playcalling sucks and they are turning the ball over every GD game.

So combine a top 3 offense with what is probably a middling defense (saved from being a bottom 5 defense by a run defense that, while great on its own, is probably helped by the fact that teams would rather through for 350 yards and 3 touchdowns) and you get the 7th ranked team.

This team lost to the jets and damn near lost to the commanders (twice) and practically gave the game to Dallas who thankfully choked harder than the eagles did. The rough stretch after the bye will show who this team really is, for better or worse.

But literally all that needs to happen is Brian Johnson needs to be fired or removed from game planning/playcalling, and the offense needs to stop turning the ball over. The defense can blow chunks until the cows come home and I trust the offense can win shootouts. But they consistently put the ball on the ground (seriously, how is it such a problem this year) and we've had some untimely picks.

 

Tl;dr no one should be upset by that ranking the way this team has played through 9 games.

Rough stretch?  KC team struggling to score; a 5-4 Bills team; San Fran at home; then Dallas/Seattle back to back is tough but Dallas is Dallas and I would not be surprised if we sweep them and Seattle just got completely waxed, but playing in Seattle is hard.  Nonetheless,  none of the next five teams we play are nearly as good as they were hyped to be.  Honestly,  we are their barometer,  not the other way around.

10 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Really going out on a limb calling Jamie Foxx "alive" these days.

Too soon?

He's recovered no?

1 hour ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Probably a little bit of both. 

Opponents abandon the run pretty quickly once they get stuffed a few times 

22 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Rough stretch?  KC team struggling to score; a 5-4 Bills team; San Fran at home; then Dallas/Seattle back to back is tough but Dallas is Dallas and I would not be surprised if we sweep them and Seattle just got completely waxed, but playing in Seattle is hard.  Nonetheless,  none of the next five teams we play are nearly as good as they were hyped to be.  Honestly,  we are their barometer,  not the other way around.

It is a rough stretch. Even though some of these teams have struggled lately the Eagles are going to get their A games. Reid off of a bye is tough out of the gate and he seems to have the cheat code for Fangio defenses. Yes 5 likely playoff teams in a row is a rough stretch.

10 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

I saw some prediction model that has them losing their next 4 games too. Gotta love this stuff!

Id rather have the RBs pick up the load from Goedert instead of Julio Jones or Calcaterra/Stoll.

We're deep at RB and they're all starving for touches.  Go to Gainwell and Swift in the passing game and give Penny more carries.  

21 hours ago, mattwill said:

No, working on the scoreboard ... better than any team in the NFL.

True…but this is a blind optimist way of looking at it.  They won Sunday because Dallas was trying harder to lose.  There’s a lot to clean up if we are hoping to be playing football on 11 Feb.

24 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Id rather have the RBs pick up the load from Goedert instead of Julio Jones or Calcaterra/Stoll.

We're deep at RB and they're all starving for touches.  Go to Gainwell and Swift in the passing game and give Penny more carries.  

Are we that deep?   We have a guy the fans were screaming about getting too many touches, another guy that really excels against the Giants, and is pretty much a JAG at best against others, and a guy that must have kicked Sirianni's dog and can't get on the field.

1 minute ago, Wentz_Era said:

True…but this is a blind optimist way of looking at it.  They won Sunday because Dallas was trying harder to lose.  There’s a lot to clean up if we are hoping to be playing football on 11 Feb.

No worries.  I have it on good authority that the Eagles are the 8th best team in the NFL.  Behind the Dolphins, 49ers and Dallas, who have all tried harder to lose than the Eagles.  

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

No worries.  I have it on good authority that the Eagles are the 8th best team in the NFL.  Behind the Dolphins, 49ers and Dallas, who have all tried harder to lose than the Eagles.  

The talent available won’t change, i just want to see better execution.  That should at least make us the 6th best I’d think right?

38 minutes ago, judunno said:

It is a rough stretch. Even though some of these teams have struggled lately the Eagles are going to get their A games. Reid off of a bye is tough out of the gate and he seems to have the cheat code for Fangio defenses. Yes 5 likely playoff teams in a row is a rough stretch.

I am less concerned about the upcoming games compared to when the schedule came out.  Of the 5 teams we play our offensive line is the best of the group, it can be argued our QB is playing the best of all the QBs with winning results, our Dline matches up with all of them, we arguably have the best WR in Brown, with Smith one of the best #2 WRs.  

Won't be like the last 3 games of the season, but it's not the murderers row it was 12 weeks ago.

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

No worries.  I have it on good authority that the Eagles are the 8th best team in the NFL.  Behind the Dolphins, 49ers and Dallas, who have all tried harder to lose than the Eagles.  

Despite their records apparently those teams have more potential for growth than the Eagles… the Birds are what they are, the data is right there in the mystery box. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

clickity, clickity

4 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

I am less concerned about the upcoming games compared to when the schedule came out.  Of the 5 teams we play our offensive line is the best of the group, it can be argued our QB is playing the best of all the QBs with winning results, our Dline matches up with all of them, we arguably have the best WR in Brown, with Smith one of the best #2 WRs.  

Won't be like the last 3 games of the season, but it's not the murderers row it was 12 weeks ago.

It's definitely not as daunting now as it seemed and I feel better about it coming out of a Bye week. The Chiefs, Bills and Niners aren't nearly as good as compared to their preseason hype. Unfortunately it's kind of entirely dependent on how the secondary looks and if they can get their crap together.

12 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Are we that deep?   We have a guy the fans were screaming about getting too many touches, another guy that really excels against the Giants, and is pretty much a JAG at best against others, and a guy that must have kicked Sirianni's dog and can't get on the field.

Well relative to Calcaterra and Stoll stepping up their roles, I think we're deeper at RB. 

We're also probably deeper there than at WR, but its difficult to make assumptions about Julio Jones right now

Just putting that thought out there because thinking about it in terms of "who should we ask to step up?" I might favor Scott/Gainwell/Swift/Penny over OZ/Julio Jones and Calcaterra/Stoll.

There's also gotta be a reason we've carried 4 RBs all year, so Im trying to analyze this through the coaches' perspectives.