2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

And during the height of the steroid era. 

The only thing about Doc is he pitched most of his career in the AL, where Maddux is all NL I believe. 

6 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Yeah - I mean Doc was dominant and the best pitcher in the league for what, 4-5 years, but even that run was no where close to Maddux winning the Cy Young 4 years in a row, with an ERA UNDER 2. 

Maddux was a unicorn. He probably had the 50th best stuff in the league but his command was insanely accurate.

He also had that Chicks dig the long ball commercial. 🤣

 

29 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

My only concern with Smith so far is he looks visibly small out there - a few times when he was on the field Monday night I thought he was a corner at first glance.

It might be because of his single digit uniform. I’m not kidding. Our brains see a number like that and we automatically think specialist or wideout. Someone smaller. 

Lillard to the Bucks.

Guess they are the favorite in the East.

Wonder what they gave up to get him.

1 minute ago, Iggles25 said:

Lillard to the Bucks.

Guess they are the favorite in the East.

Wonder what they gave up to get him.

 

3 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/V/VincTr00.htm

 

You are right.  Vincent was the following year in '96.

He was the big free agent addition to the team that season.  

It might also be seeing Smith next to Davis and Carter.  Pluto vs Jupiter and Saturn

 

With all the attention the push sneak is getting, Sirianni is going to milk the hell out of that thing until they ban it. Will probably start using it on 2nd and 4 and then again on 3rd and 1. I'm here for the pettiness. 

So I tried to consolidate the draft trades over the past three seasons into the chart below.

Items highlighted in yellow were resources we had.  Red items were picks that were eventually made.  All the other ones were traded back and forth.

In summary, we turned Wentz, Pryor, Ertz, 2 first round picks, and a handful of Day 3 picks into....Smith, Brown, Davis, Carter, McPhearson, Johnson, and a second round pick next year.  Oh, and Tay Gowan.

The headline would be Wentz and two firsts for Smith, Brown, Davis, and Carter.  Again, roster building excellence.

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55 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I love Doc, and he was nowhere close to Maddux.

Maddux was accurate and also got strike calls for more questionable pitches than anyone else in MLB history.  

15 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

Maddux was a unicorn. He probably had the 50th best stuff in the league but his command was insanely accurate.

He also had that Chicks dig the long ball commercial. 🤣

 

He was an artist.  Or maybe a surgeon.  His stuff wasn’t bad….pretty good break.  But nothing special.  He just could reliably pinpoint the ball in that one dead zone for each individual hitter in a spot where they wouldn’t even hit it well off a tee.

Once he became a star, he also got more and more runway with the umps.

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

Maddux was accurate and also got strike calls for more questionable pitches than anyone else in MLB history.  

I think he was good at expanding the strike zone ever so slightly because if his pitcher put the glove 2 inches off the plate on either side, that's where his pitch went.   The catcher didn't move, the ump called strike.  Now guys are more worried about hitting 100 mph but have no f'n clue where the pitch is going half the time.  

Just now, eagle45 said:

He was an artist.  Or maybe a surgeon.  His stuff wasn’t bad….pretty good break.  But nothing special.  He just could reliably pinpoint the ball in that one dead zone for each individual hitter in a spot where they wouldn’t even hit it well off a tee.

Tony Gwynn liked hitting off of Maddux because he knew the ball would always be around the strike zone

Location, movement, change of speed, sequencing.  How to pitch without a 95+ mph fastball.

My prediction is we land Jrue Holiday from the Blazers in a 3 team trade with the Clippers sending them Harden.

 

 

 

22 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

Maddux was a unicorn. He probably had the 50th best stuff in the league but his command was insanely accurate.

He also had that Chicks dig the long ball commercial. 🤣

 

Do you still want my bat?

No

 

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

My prediction is we land Jrue Holiday from the Blazers in a 3 team trade with the Clippers sending them Harden.

 

 

 

No one cares about the Sixers.  Biggest fair weather fan base in sports.

Reported. 

Just now, mikemack8 said:

No one cares about the Sixers.  Biggest fair weather fan base in sports.

Reported. 

 

That would be the Phillies.  Biggest lsoer organization in the history of sports with the most fairweather fans in town.

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

That would be the Phillies.  Biggest lsoer organization in the history of sports with the most fairweather fans in town.

7 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Tony Gwynn liked hitting off of Maddux because he knew the ball would always be around the strike zone

Location, movement, change of speed, sequencing.  How to pitch without a 95+ mph fastball.

 

8 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I think he was good at expanding the strike zone ever so slightly because if his pitcher put the glove 2 inches off the plate on either side, that's where his pitch went.   The catcher didn't move, the ump called strike.  Now guys are more worried about hitting 100 mph but have no f'n clue where the pitch is going half the time.  

Yup.  I also have to blame some of that on the epidemic of TJ surgery.  Pitchers are better conditioned.  They have 3 different software programs and 10 camera angles optimizing their mechanics….and "optimizing mechanics” basically means maximizing arm speed and velocity.  Everyone throws 97-102 and everyone needs TJ.

Theres a reason there was less of this when the average velo was 88-92.  
 

If you can find a pitcher who gets outs at that velocity, that’s someone who might actually stay healthy and stay an ace.  But that’s easier said than done.  

5 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

That would be the Phillies.  Biggest lsoer organization

The Flyers play across the parking lot. 

3 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

 

What organization in pro sports has more losses than thr Phillies lifetime?

2 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

The Flyers play across the parking lot. 

 

Flyers have quote a storied history.

6 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Flyers have quote a storied history.

Was more so referring to the past decade and post-Snider. 

6 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I think you mean Seth Joyner.  

Sadly, I never got to see him play.  But Ryans, most definitely.

48 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

He was handsy in coverage and couldn't catch - physically prototypical. 

Pretty much all college CBs are handsy. He just didn't have ball production. But you know he's lockdown.