Not happy with the coaching today, which was atrocious.  It's not been good all season.

That said, very happy to be one of only 2 undefeated teams left.  Just gotta keep winning while we work out the kinks.

1 minute ago, McMVP said:

lol…I don’t see it that way at all.  There is definitely a lot of work to do, but I don’t ever see this Eagles team getting steamrolled like happened to the Vikings a few times last year.  They had a 13–4 record, but a negative point differential. That’s not the Eagles

We will see if they do or don’t get steamrolled. I wouldn’t be entirely shocked if one game they did (last year is about the only year besides 2017 where i feel like we didn’t have that type of game) but for the most part i think they will be in every game. They have a daunting schedule coming up if vs. Miami, at Washington, vs. Dallas, at KC (off a bye), vs. bills, vs. niners, at Dallas and at seattle. You are gonna know just how bad or good the eagles defense is after that stretch. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The issue is they have nobody next to Blankenship. Evans and edmunds are not good. They are journeymen type safeties. Brown is hurt and young. So growing pains there. Then add in their nickel corner situation makes them play jobe more. They really could use a guy like Baker who can play safety and nickel. Or you can have him play nickel and brown eventually play more and go three safetys. 

 A lot of teams don’t have good safeties though. It’s generally a thin position across the league. You should be able to get by with Edmunds at safety and not get torched all game through the air. You have two all pro starting CBs. The Steelers used Edmunds for years and he played fine enough for them. I think it’s more than that. I think it’s scheme, philosophy, and players are a part, but I still think they should be better than they have been. No excuse to have that many wide open guys all game eve. With the safeties.

4 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Firing a rookie OC 4 weeks into the season, is dumb. Giving him some help 4 weeks into the season, not so dumb. 

He was with the team and should be familiar with the Ferrari he was given. He saw what works, he saw what put Hurts in a good spot to succeed, he saw what got them to the SB, he is familiar with the players, yet he is this bad....there really is no excuse.  

4 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

IMO  this game will light up howie to get some secondary help

It needs to.  This whole Bradberry slot deal and injuries at Safety are glaring weaknesses

He needs to make a move at S/nickel CB.  Throw an offer for Jeremy Chinn.  

The defense is going to be an issue all year. They’re just going to have to be opportunistic and force turnovers to tilt the game back to the offense. 
 

We needed Hurts to have a get right game after the first three weeks and we got that today. He made some great throws. They’re going nowhere if he’s not a semblance of the guy we saw last year anyway, so I’m glad we got a game like that from him today. 

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

We agree on the last part. They are 4-0 so however they get there it's a good thing, but I think a lot of us are still calming down from the stress of that crap. If the ultimate goal is to win the SB it's hard to feel like the coaches are capable of putting them in the right places, at least on offense. It's the same damn crew outside of one guard spot. Johnson inherited a Ferrari and is driving it like crap. 

Yes, our OCs are really worrisome. Neither has the stones yet. Hopefully, they get there. 

7 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

We had 5 sacks today, couldn't tell.

For all of the praise we're giving Jalen Carter, he's far from a finished product. He needs to rush more under control. I love that he's violent, quick and aggressive, but he's got to learn to finish at the QB. He probably has left 4 sacks on the field so far this year because he's too out of control. Once he figures it out, look out.

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

A backfield with Slay, Bradberry, Blankenship should not be struggling this much. Even with youth at slot CB and another safety question mark. Teams have performed better with far less talent. Just guys running free all game whenever Howell had time. I know they have good WRs but jeez. Starting to think it’s just an organizational philosophy on how they want to play defense. Prevent chunk plays, be ok with the middle of the field being open. Because regardless of coaches it seems to always e the same.

Slay is not good anymore.  He just isn’t.  They went after him today, with success, as aggressively as any of the perceived liabilities.

Bradberry is still playing pretty well.

Blankenship is playing at a high level but isn’t exactly a shut down guy in coverage.  
 

And the rest of the secondary is back of the roster or even PS quality (at least at this point in their development).

 

Its a very, very easy group to pass on.

4 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Firing a rookie OC 4 weeks into the season, is dumb. Giving him some help 4 weeks into the season, not so dumb. 

Firing Johnson is ridiculous.  However, this is only his 3rd year as an NFL coach at any level.  It's not ridiculous to think that he needs a lot of help to grow into the job.  Sirianni has been an NFL OC in the past, who didn't call plays (under Reich), and he's been an NFL HC who does call plays.   He needs to help Johnson learn the NFL ropes.  The red zone offense is horrible right now.  But, the red zone defense is also terrible.   They need to work 1s against the 1s in practice in the red zone.   Both desperately need work on it.

Just now, eagle45 said:

Slay is not good anymore.  He just isn’t.  They went after him today, with success, as aggressively as any of the perceived liabilities.

Bradberry is still playing pretty well.

Blankenship is playing at a high level but isn’t exactly a shut down guy in coverage.  
 

And the rest of the secondary is back of the roster or even PS quality (at least at this point in their development).

 

Its a very, very easy group to pass on.

Slay is still very good, that is absurd. People love hating on Slay.

15 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I agree but I don’t mind scoring a TD when you can.  It’s not a sure thing to close out the clock and kick the fg

 

19 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Should have closed out on offense... like they did last week.  Don't put it on your defense when you don't have to.... especially THIS defense.

Ok so I just checked... We were at their 28 yard line with 2nd and 4 and 1:49 on the clock. BUT, Washington did have another TO left, so it's not a foregone conclusion that we could've drained the clock and won on a last second FG. If they stop us short on 2nd and 3rd down, we'd be kicking the FG with about 55 seconds left on the clock. And with the way this defense finished the game, that's plenty of time for Howell to drive them into FG range. 

I still think Sirianni made a dumb decision to trust the defense, especially given the risk that throwing the ball there incurs, but not as much of a bonehead move as it would've been had WAS not had that last timeout.

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Firing Johnson is ridiculous.  However, this is only his 3rd year as an NFL coach at any level.  It's not ridiculous to think that he needs a lot of help to grow into the job.  Sirianni has been an NFL OC in the past, who didn't call plays (under Reich), and he's been an NFL HC who does call plays.   He needs to help Johnson learn the NFL ropes.  The red zone offense is horrible right now.  But, the red zone defense is also terrible.   They need to work 1s against the 1s in practice in the red zone.   Both desperately need work on it.

Agree, Johnson, while very talented, is still learning the ropes. What he looks to need is someone to help him with game day decision making - in itself, not a fireable crime.  The hard part for Siri is when do you step in and does it stop the coaches development. Vs finding a mentor who can help in a different manner

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

 A lot of teams don’t have good safeties though. It’s generally a thin position across the league. You should be able to get by with Edmunds at safety and not get torched all game through the air. You have two all pro starting CBs. The Steelers used Edmunds for years and he played fine enough for them. I think it’s more than that. I think it’s scheme, philosophy, and players are a part, but I still think they should be better than they have been. No excuse to have that many wide open guys all game eve. With the safeties.

 Evans likely shouldn’t even be in the league anymore. He was perpetually hurt and frankly not all that great last year when he did play. Edmunds is a journeyman safety. He’s not good. The Steelers defense had issues last year. They were 19th in the league vs pass. That was an issue for them. Why do you think they let him walk? There was a reason they decided to move on from him. 

add on you don’t have your nickel corner. So now you down one safety. You also don’t have a good nickel corner. So now you have to play Jobe more. And he’s not very good. So now you’re down a safety, you’re done a nickel corner and you’re down an outside corner because you’re playing Bradberry in a position where he’s not best suited. So really you have 3 issues going on with your secondary and that’s why they haven’t been good 

Last play of regulation we should have blitzed.  Blitzing was working well against Howell and forced an incompletion on the play before.

Instead we rush only 4 and drop into coverage, and Howell has all day for a receiver to break open against our weak secondary in the end zone.

I think he's done fine so far but that was a huge mistake by Desai.

7 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Yup lost in all the hoopla at the end of the game was that back breaking late hit from him.

Edmunds is not good but both penalties on him were REALLLLY ticky tacky. What do you want him to do? They were both bang bang plays and shouldn't have been penalties. 

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Slay is not good anymore.  He just isn’t.  They went after him today, with success, as aggressively as any of the perceived liabilities.

Bradberry is still playing pretty well.

Blankenship is playing at a high level but isn’t exactly a shut down guy in coverage.  
 

And the rest of the secondary is back of the roster or even PS quality (at least at this point in their development).

 

Its a very, very easy group to pass on.

I’d argue the commanders always torch slay with mclaurin. It’s been that way for a few games now. Mclaurin lives to destroy slay and us. 

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

Slay is still very good, that is absurd. People love hating on Slay.

He kinda looked like he was just going thru the motions today.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Slay is not good anymore.  He just isn’t.  They went after him today, with success, as aggressively as any of the perceived liabilities.

Bradberry is still playing pretty well.

Blankenship is playing at a high level but isn’t exactly a shut down guy in coverage.  
 

And the rest of the secondary is back of the roster or even PS quality (at least at this point in their development).

 

Its a very, very easy group to pass on.

This is crazy. He's been fine, even Bradberry has looked worse.

Herbert just got lit up out of bounds.  Compare that to Howell today.  Nowhere near the same thing

20 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

This needs to be a wakeup call. Teams can beat us. We aren't invincible. 

That was the last 2.5 weeks 

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

 

Ok so I just checked... We were at their 28 yard line with 2nd and 4 and 1:49 on the clock. BUT, Washington did have another TO left, so it's not a foregone conclusion that we could've drained the clock and won on a last second FG. If they stop us short on 2nd and 3rd down, we'd be kicking the FG with about 55 seconds left on the clock. And with the way this defense finished the game, that's plenty of time for Howell to drive them into FG range. 

I still think Sirianni made a dumb decision to trust the defense, especially given the risk that throwing the ball there incurs, but not as much of a bonehead move as it would've been had WAS not had that last timeout.

You have two running plays to get 4 yards, which gets you the first down and bleeds their last timeout.  Then you can run the clock out and kick the FG at the buzzer.

Big mistake to go for the TD immediately and give them the ball back against our weak D with over 90 seconds and a timeout.

6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

He was with the team and should be familiar with the Ferrari he was given. He saw what works, he saw what put Hurts in a good spot to succeed, he saw what got them to the SB, he is familiar with the players, yet he is this bad....there really is no excuse.  

To use your analogy, he was given a Ferrari and decided to swap out the V12 for an old LS he's trying to build himself.

@Iggles_Phan gonna face the marlins on Tuesday. I feel like outside of last year the marlins always give us fits

8 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

With some worse luck we’re 1-3.

But we’re not.  4-0.  But things need to change if they are to survive better teams.

The only game in which we weren't clearly better was vs. the Patriots.