Dallas needs a CB too and will probably trade for one at the deadline.  I'd say we shouldn't let them get the better player.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Haven’t had a chance to watch the fourth quarter, but the Eagles called a third and 11 Gainwell draw at the Washington 16? Good thing I couldn’t watch. My remote might not have survived. 

The play-calling and scheme on both sides of the ball were terrible most of the game.  Both coordinators were awful.

1 hour ago, D-Shiznit said:

Carter needs to learn how to finish, I've lost count of how many times he has destroyed his blocker only to miss out on the QB.

It was his 4th NFL game, relax. 

6 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Dallas needs a CB too and will probably trade for one at the deadline.  I'd say we shouldn't let them get the better player.

Bland had two interceptions yesterday. I think they’re fine with him outside and Lewis in the slot. 

42 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

No need for anguish about the game given the ultimate outcome.   Anguish during the game is another matter.   But, the outcome of the game doesn't change the issues we saw during the game that caused that anguish.   This is a flawed team.  The record is perfect, but the team is not.   Relish the win.  On to the next game and hopefully we can see some improvements in the weaker areas, and we can see the DC start to ask the DBs to not play so deep, especially in short yardage situations.

It's DeJa'Vu

10 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Haven’t had a chance to watch the fourth quarter, but the Eagles called a third and 11 Gainwell draw at the Washington 16? Good thing I couldn’t watch. My remote might not have survived. 

I didn't watch the PC but was hoping a reporter would ask about the thought process on that one

Regarding the call on Sauce last night:

I hear people say that officials should be consistent with their calls and how they let players play all game.  However when a game is close and coming down to the end don't you want the correct call to be made?  Like it was mentioned by I think @e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! if that was AJ or Devonta us Eagles fans would be losing our minds if that wasn't called.  So while I agree officials need to be consistent, if a penalty is obvious it has to be called.

You can't compare it to Bradberry's penalty in the SB.  He gave a little tug of the jersey where Sauce is practically giving the WR a hug past 5 yards of the LOS.

40 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I think the odds of a fourth and one conversion (80% or so) were greater than the odds of an incomplete pass (maybe 50%). I think it's the right call to put them into a situation where they have to complete a six yard pass.

It didn't work out but I think the thought process was correct.

It wasn’t a 4th and 1 situation though. It looked like he lost a yard or so. Our strength is in our line. I trust them to stop a short yardage 4th down play than trusting our DBs to stop them on 3rd and 6 when we’re playing 10 yards off ball. 
 

Not to mention there isn’t a guarantee they go for it. They were more likely to try a FG imo. 

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Haven’t had a chance to watch the fourth quarter, but the Eagles called a third and 11 Gainwell draw at the Washington 16? Good thing I couldn’t watch. My remote might not have survived. 

It also felt like Washington gained momentum when the eagles settled for just getting a field goal. Before that the commanders had done next to nothing in the second half offensively. Then again this is the 3rd game out of 4 that the eagles haven’t been able to just completely slam the door shut when given multiple chances

11 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Haven’t had a chance to watch the fourth quarter, but the Eagles called a third and 11 Gainwell draw at the Washington 16? Good thing I couldn’t watch. My remote might not have survived. 

Johnson will get the blame for it because he's the new guy so he's the low hanging fruit, but I believe that is Sirianni more than Johnson. I believe this is how the play calling dynamic works: Sirianni relays to Johnson what type of play he wants to run. ie pass or run, conservative or aggressive, and then Johnson calls the play. If Sirianni wanted them to be aggressive there, they would have been.

Can't say for sure though, but I believe that's how it works.

It's odd because they're conservative in that spot with awful run calls, but turn around and go for it on 4th and 1 on their own side of the field in the game with the tush push. No consistency.

There seems to be a weird lack of trust in Hurts this season so far. And I'm starting to wonder if him looking slow is him being afraid to be hit because the team demanded in the offseason when he signed that contract to not take physical contact anymore.

Considering motion caused all sorts of issues for this team in the superbowl, you would think they would have a better communication process in place. Maybe it's because Bradberry is in there, but washington killed them with motion and it consistently confused the secondary.

To me it looks like a lot of the issues in the secondary are communication. I'm not quite ready to give up some assets to bring in another nickel/DB, because I don't feel that will solve the problem. People are way too quick to move onto the next player. Jobe has 2 starts under his belt and there's several on here that have already declared he's not good and want to move onto Ricks/Ringo, who have taken a combined total of 2 snaps in a meaningful game. I don't see any plays out there where Jobe looked like Bradley Fletcher.

3 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Regarding the call on Sauce last night:

I hear people say that officials should be consistent with their calls and how they let players play all game.  However when a game is close and coming down to the end don't you want the correct call to be made?  Like it was mentioned by I think @e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! if that was AJ or Devonta us Eagles fans would be losing our minds if that wasn't called.  So while I agree officials need to be consistent, if a penalty is obvious it has to be called.

You can't compare it to Bradberry's penalty in the SB.  He gave a little tug of the jersey where Sauce is practically giving the WR a hug past 5 yards of the LOS.

There were also a lot of panties in a bunch about the flag being thrown late.  Like it or not, the officials have the discretion to throw the flag if an obvious infraction leads directly to a game-turning INT.  The "ticky-tack" call becomes a necessary call when it leads directly to a turnover.  It's not about making the timely call; it's about making the correct call.   

4 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Regarding the call on Sauce last night:

I hear people say that officials should be consistent with their calls and how they let players play all game.  However when a game is close and coming down to the end don't you want the correct call to be made?  Like it was mentioned by I think @e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! if that was AJ or Devonta us Eagles fans would be losing our minds if that wasn't called.  So while I agree officials need to be consistent, if a penalty is obvious it has to be called.

You can't compare it to Bradberry's penalty in the SB.  He gave a little tug of the jersey where Sauce is practically giving the WR a hug past 5 yards of the LOS.

I get some people are upset that the official waited to throw the flag until there was an interception. The official should’ve thrown it way sooner. I don’t disagree with that. However, either way it needed to be called cause it was a penalty. you watch the play it is that it is a penalty and it was definitely past 5 yard line of scrimmage.

in the Minnesota game, AJ Brown should’ve got a PI call on a catchable touchdown pass. They didn’t call it. And people were upset And angry about it. 100% if it were the eagles and that play happened people would be yelling for it. And on top of that likely getting on the official for not throwing it sooner even if they got the flag. 

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Johnson will get the blame for it because he's the new guy so he's the low hanging fruit, but I believe that is Sirianni more than Johnson. I believe this is how the play calling dynamic works: Sirianni relays to Johnson what type of play he wants to run. ie pass or run, conservative or aggressive, and then Johnson calls the play. If Sirianni wanted them to be aggressive there, they would have been.

Can't say for sure though, but I believe that's how it works.

It's odd because they're conservative in that spot with awful run calls, but turn around and go for it on 4th and 1 on their own side of the field in the game with the tush push. No consistency.

There seems to be a weird lack of trust in Hurts this season so far. And I'm starting to wonder if him looking slow is him being afraid to be hit because the team demanded in the offseason when he signed that contract to not take physical contact anymore.

Did he say the process changed then Johnson was hired? If not then it's a collaborative group coming up with the gameplan and then the OC calls the plays during the game

https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/sirianni-explains-why-he-gave-up-play-calling/247321/

9 hours ago, Dwide Schrude said:

Think it was noteworthy that when Jurgens went down, Opeta was called up instead of Driscoll. I also take it that Steen is not ready at all. 

I think that may be a faulty take.  Steen may be ready to a very considerable level, but just as Jurgens was last year (with respect to Kelce) Steen may not be as ready as Opeta is.  We have to remember that Opeta is "ready" at both LG and RG.  Steen is probably concentrating a whole lot more on RG than on LG at this point in his development.

 

 

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Did he say the process changed then Johnson was hired? If not then it's a collaborative group coming up with the gameplan and then the OC calls the plays during the game

https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/sirianni-explains-why-he-gave-up-play-calling/247321/

The OC calls the play, but I believe it's based on what Sirianni wants them to do. All major decisions in games are decided by Sirianni. Like when to go for it on 4th down, how they want to approach 2 minute drills, etc.

It's odd how they keep taking the ball out of Hurts' hands in the red zone though. It feels like they don't trust him down there.

2 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Was it noted here yesterday that both the TD to Brown and Intentional Grounding plays were audibles called at the line?

It seems the media was questioning Sirianni and Johnson for calling those plays, when it was Hurts to changed into them.

Hurts saw heavy boxes and did what he is coached to do, check to the 1v1 on the perimeter.  I'd argue that he should be coached to not do that in certain game situations.

 

He saw a match up and put points on the board, if they'd run the ball they could've botched a handoff, had the tailback cough it up on a bad hit at the line or the O line gets called for holding, he had a shot and took it, if Brown doesn't get called for taunting we kick a touchback and it's a different drive. 

He was entitled to expect his defense to be able to hold the Commanders up for a minute and 43 seconds, especially after getting them to 3rd and 17.  The secondary does even a passable job of covering receivers, we win in regulation, we didn't make Howell hit any tight windows, we gave him guys sat in an ocean of space all drive.

Just now, Sack that QB said:

It's odd how they keep taking the ball out of Hurts' hands in the red zone though.

He seems much slower this year.  I can't tell if its an injury or what.

3 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

Tush push was stopped at least 4 other times in other games I watched this weekend (college and NFL)

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

The OC calls the play, but I believe it's based on what Sirianni wants them to do. All major decisions in games are decided by Sirianni. Like when to go for it on 4th down, how they want to approach 2 minute drills, etc.

It's odd how they keep taking the ball out of Hurts' hands in the red zone though. It feels like they don't trust him down there.

I'm curious when the rust will be completely gone from Hurts. Wasn't expecting him to still look rusty in week 4. I think they need to start letting starters play in preseason again

1 minute ago, Khani1 said:

He seems much slower this year.  I can't tell if its an injury or what.

He showed on that one run late in the game that he can still move. It looks like he's running at half speed on purpose and I'm starting to get the feeling the team mandated he do this to avoid getting hit.

Every single game I see wide open lanes for Hurts to run through where last year he'd have picked up 15-20 yards, but this year he'll hit it, slow up, and slide down for like a 2 yard gain. It's really bizarre.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

The OC calls the play, but I believe it's based on what Sirianni wants them to do. All major decisions in games are decided by Sirianni. Like when to go for it on 4th down, how they want to approach 2 minute drills, etc.

It's odd how they keep taking the ball out of Hurts' hands in the red zone though. It feels like they don't trust him down there.

I understand they’re trying to help Hurts become more comfortable as a pocket passer but it doesn’t need to be one or the other.  It’s evident he’s much more conservative running the ball this year (at times too conservative).  
 

They really just need to let him play.   Mahomes was running all over the field last night - if he hadn’t, good chance the Chiefs lose that game.  Like I said, it doesn’t need be one or the other.    Let Jalen play. 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

I understand they’re trying to help Hurts become more comfortable as a pocket passer but it doesn’t need to be one or the other.  It’s evident he’s much more conservative running the ball this year (at times too conservative).  
 

They really just need to let him play.   Mahomes was running all over the field last night - if he hadn’t, good chance the Chiefs lose that game.  Like I said, it doesn’t need be one or the other.    Let Jalen play. 

Part of me wonders if they are holding back his running to when they get to the gauntlet of their schedule. Feel as if they believe they are better than these teams and can win without exposing him more. Then again that’s a good way to lose a game you are supposed to win and be in dogfights like Washington and New England that really shouldn’t be 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Part of me wonders if they are holding back his running to when they get to the gauntlet of their schedule. Feel as if they believe they are better than these teams and can win without exposing him more. Then again that’s a good way to lose a game you are supposed to win and be in dogfights like Washington and New England that really shouldn’t be 

I thought the same thing and maybe that’s what they’re doing but at the same time, you don’t want to develop bad habits (unnatural habits) in the process. 

Does anyone care who AR's OC is?  Does anyone care who any of Belichick's coordinators were?  Mcvay's OC?  Shanahan's OC?

I may not have anything good to say about Brian Johnson, but when you have an offense-minded HC who is supposed to be one of the NFL's best and an elite team, you have to expect and deal with a revolving door at OC.  I blame Siri for the design and play-calling issues on offense....BUT....those issues do seem to be sorting themselves out.