3 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Jobe had some struggles - but Slay playing off coverage was nearly as damaging… where on the spectrum is the fault with the player vs. the scheme. Dunno.

Scheme

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

What is accurate is Edmunds is consistently late arriving on help.  His instincts and angles are bad.  Jobe is #28 and Edmunds is #26.  I do wonder if sometimes Jobe is getting blamed when Edmunds is the late arrival.  Evans has played better than Edmunds albeit not by much.  The deep drop really doesn’t help any of them.  Yesterday the lining up in zone was too deep.  Take the Jets, for example.  Their drop rarely got deeper than eight yards. 

Agreed.  2nd safety is shabby.  There is no doubt that part of the Eagles passing D priority is to prevent big plays downfield.  Sometimes the underneath stuff becomes a big play, but they don't want stuff over the top.  If they were better defensively in the Redzone I wouldn't mind as much.

3 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Because Reddick and Graham are playing better. I think the plan was to get Smith more snaps yesterday, but Smith played early and had a couple mistakes. The game remained too close throughout and I think they just wanted to lean on the vets. 

Smith is unable to seal the edge.  That is the main duty of an edge in this defense and has been since Schwartz (folks don’t remember the Wide 9 was designed as a run D).  

I’m not really into conspiracy theories, but the Chiefs are going to be an extremely tough out the remainder of the season and into the playoffs. They’re a good enough team where 1-2 calls their way can tilt the difference in a game. There is just too much money in this partnership for them to not have them go as far as they can. 
 

 

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Part of me wonders if they are holding back his running to when they get to the gauntlet of their schedule. Feel as if they believe they are better than these teams and can win without exposing him more. Then again that’s a good way to lose a game you are supposed to win and be in dogfights like Washington and New England that really shouldn’t be 

Holding players back is beyond stupid IMO and I hope they aren't doing that even though it looked like they did with Swift

24 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Considering motion caused all sorts of issues for this team in the superbowl, you would think they would have a better communication process in place. Maybe it's because Bradberry is in there, but washington killed them with motion and it consistently confused the secondary.

To me it looks like a lot of the issues in the secondary are communication. I'm not quite ready to give up some assets to bring in another nickel/DB, because I don't feel that will solve the problem. People are way too quick to move onto the next player. Jobe has 2 starts under his belt and there's several on here that have already declared he's not good and want to move onto Ricks/Ringo, who have taken a combined total of 2 snaps in a meaningful game. I don't see any plays out there where Jobe looked like Bradley Fletcher.

It would warm my cockles to see our offense use motion more effectively as well.  Get some designed roll outs, get some receiver mismatches....

3 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Reddick/Sweat are going to get ~65% of the snaps , BG playing 35% isn’t a problem… so of the snaps that remain to be allocated (35% or 25-30 snaps) what does Barnett provide that Nolan doesn’t? Pro experience and better size against the run… otherwise not much.

Barnett does a good job of sealing the edge and collapsing it toward the QB.  

4 hours ago, bpac55 said:

What did Boston Scott do to get erased from the offense? I've always thought they could upgrade from him but I think he offers a lot more juice and pop than Gainwell does. I know he was coming off a concussion but if you're cleared, you're cleared. He played 17 ST snaps so it's not like they were concerned about him getting injured.

Also, dressing 4 TE to have TE2/3/4 play a grand total of 9 offensive snaps is not a good use of roster spots. Heck, Calcaterra and Stoll didn't even play 50% of the ST snaps so they aren't eve core teamers. 

 

The Eagles only had three wide receivers dressed. Four if you count Covey. Dressing an extra tight end absolutely made sense, even if they had no intention of using him. You need to be able to run some semblance of an offense if Brown and Smith get hurt.

I don't get the angst over this.

I get it’s not his throwing hand. Credit to herbert having a really great season so far 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I get it’s not his throwing hand but that’s pretty tough. Credit to herbert having a really great season so far 

He's being wasted away with Chargers

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

He's being wasted away with Chargers

Yeah staley is gonna waste his career. He should’ve already been fired. Similarly to how they wasted rivers career. Also the chargers always seem to have a roster that manages to have a ton of starters get hurt every year. Maybe they are cursed for leaving SD 

2 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

I like her music because she's got a nice voice but they are overdoing it big time. Could have been coincidence but they showed a trailer for her concert in theaters during the commercial break directly after talking about her during the game. They were showing her even when it wasn't Kelce catching a pass. I'm sure they're getting a lot of complaints on twitter

NFL taking advantage of Swift to possibly broaden the market.  If 10% of the Swifties continue to follow football after she has moved on, that’s a win for the NFL and right now, it’s a commercial grab as evidenced by the movie trailer.  More commercial revenue is good for the NFL when negotiating TV contracts. Also good for the broadcast where she is.  For me, it’s no different than Mike Trout at an Eagles game.  Grabbing audience is the name of the game.

So after 4 weeks what’s everyone’s top 5 in the nfl and who’s your SB prediction? 

 

52 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Now...

Here is a list of CBs who will have contracts ending soon and who are on bad teams:

Young:
AJ Terrell (2020 #16, Falcons)
Jaylon Johnson (2020 #50, Bears)
Jeff  Okudah (2020 #3, Lions -> Falcons)
CJ Henderson (2020 #9, Jaguars -> Panthers)

Old:
Steven Nelson (Texans, UFA next year)
Shaquill Griffin (Texans, UFA next year)
Marcus Peters (Raiders, UFA next year)

Aspirational:
Patrick Surtain (2021 #9, Broncos)
 

The old guys have no upside, but probably represent immediate improvement/stability, and will cost next to nothing at the deadline.  I can't say I know much about the younger guys and how much they'd offer as immediate help, although it doesn't seem they'd cost much.

And Surtain...he's already in trade rumors.  He's immediate help, long term help...I'd be willing to give up quite a bit for that one.

 

What about Jaycee Horn? 

2 hours ago, mr_hunt said:

sorry if this was already posted....

 

 

 

   

Such drama over nothing -- were they actually watching the game?  Hurts was WAY over the line to gain.

However, I also hated this play call.  You need 3 yards and the best you can dial up is a WR screen?  C'mon, man...

On the bright side, with how our defense is constructed and how Sunday went, playing the Chiefs isn't going to go much differently.  We already had to win multiple games this year with QB's scoring at will.  Honestly, Mahomes isn't going to torch the defense THAT much worse than Howell did...mostly because it can't get much worse.  And the Chiefs D is actually going to be much easier sledding than that Commander DL.  

The Eagles have already figured out how to win games with the opposing QB scoring at will.  So I'd say we are as ready as we'll be for Allen/Mahomes/Tua.

Just now, eagle45 said:

On the bright side, with how our defense is constructed and how Sunday went, playing the Chiefs isn't going to go much differently.  We already had to win multiple games this year with QB's scoring at will.  Honestly, Mahomes isn't going to torch the defense THAT much worse than Howell did...mostly because it can't get much worse.  And the Chiefs D is actually going to be much easier sledding than that Commander DL.  

The Eagles have already figured out how to win games with the opposing QB scoring at will.  So I'd say we are as ready as we'll be for Allen/Mahomes/Tua.

optimistic. i like it

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So after 4 weeks what’s everyone’s top 5 in the nfl

 

Niners

Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce

Bad Officiating 

Tush Push should be illegal

Red October

7 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Agreed.  2nd safety is shabby.  There is no doubt that part of the Eagles passing D priority is to prevent big plays downfield.  Sometimes the underneath stuff becomes a big play, but they don't want stuff over the top.  If they were better defensively in the Redzone I wouldn't mind as much.

I agree with that sentiment.   Bend but don't break only works as a philosophy when you can actually get more stout in the red zone.  This defense isn't.

 

Second, as a general rule, I get the bend but don't break philosophy, but there needs to be discernment on where and when to use it.   The final drive of the Super Bowl, and the final drive in regulation yesterday were situations where you don't play bend by don't break, you play uber aggressive, and if you are going to get beat, you are going to get beaten quickly... giving the ball back to your offense with enough time to answer.    This is EXTREMELY important for the future as the playoffs can often come down to a situation of 'last team with the ball wins'.  We saw it with the Bills Chiefs where there were 3 scores in under 2 minutes... and KC scored the go ahead FG with something like 16 seconds but 3 timeouts in their pocket.  

If the Eagles brought the house on Howell in that final drive, there's a chance they never get to the point where they tie it up.  3rd and 17 sits there as a glaring moment where they could have brought the house, play tight coverage and make the tackle short of the sticks.   As it was, they played back and let them pick up 16 yards on that play IIRC.  

Our old friend Jim Schwartz understood this and as much as he drove some folks crazy, he told Doug Pederson on the drive where Brady fumbled in SB LII that he was going to be aggressive on D so that the Offense would get the ball back with time left to work with.   That's how you have to attack the situation at the end of the game, and perhaps even at the end of the half.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So after 4 weeks what’s everyone’s top 5 in the nfl and who’s your SB prediction? 

 

AFC will come down to Chiefs-Bills, and NFC appears to be Eagles-49ers again.

1.  PHI

2.  SF

3.  KC

4.  BUF

5.  DET

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I get it’s not his throwing hand. Credit to herbert having a really great season so far 

And this highlights why I am anti-tush push.   You are just asking defenders to take shots at your QB with impunity.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So after 4 weeks what’s everyone’s top 5 in the nfl and who’s your SB prediction? 

 

We have the talent to be #1 in the NFC but play calling and execution will be a problem if they don't it fixed. I don't think Purdy is good enough. 49ers could end up sliding into the SB if we F up though

AFC seems like a dogfight still

12 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

The Eagles only had three wide receivers dressed. Four if you count Covey. Dressing an extra tight end absolutely made sense, even if they had no intention of using him. You need to be able to run some semblance of an offense if Brown and Smith get hurt.

I don't get the angst over this.

I didn't think of it that way. Makes more sense with Watkins down. Would be nice if they had a competent WR they could call up though.

13 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So after 4 weeks what’s everyone’s top 5 in the nfl and who’s your SB prediction? 

 

I think the NFL is a 6 horse race this year.

Chiefs.  The defending champs with a GOAT QB.  They are probably going to upgrade WR at the deadline and will once again be the scariest team in the league heading into the playoffs.

Bills.  Consistency is an issue.  Trusting them in the playoffs will be an issue, specifically a defense that typically comes up small on that stage.  But their win against Miami was the strongest statement any team in the NFL has made so far this year.  Their peaks have been the most dominant of any team in the NFL.

SF.  Undefeated and, over 4 weeks, playing the best football in the NFL.  

Eagles.  Of the elite 6, the Eagles have played the worst football through 4 weeks.  No doubt about it.  And yet...we are one of 2 unbeatens at 4-0.  I'm inclined to say the Eagles are the most talented out of all of them, but the multitude of holes on defense makes me question that now.

Miami.  Just got sent back to earth, but that offense is still terrifying.  

Dallas.  Bringing up the rear of the top 6.  No one really trusts them in the playoffs.  I just don't see the same upside for this team on offense as the other elites.  But their well distributed talent on offense and tenacious defense deservedly put them in this conversation.

 

I see the Eagles dropping the NFCCG to SF after an exhausting, emotional divisional win over Dallas.  Buffalo comes up short to Miami in a revenge playoff game.  Tua isn't ready to outgun Mahomes in the playoffs.  Mahomes and Taylor Swift repeat in the SB over SF.  And everyone involved makes an insane amount of money.

2 hours ago, RLC said:

https://www.ftnfantasy.com/nfl/tools/team-total-dvoa

The Eagles are such a bad team that we're 6th in DVOA. We're also 2nd!!!! in ST DVOA

Yeah, but that means there are FIVE teams better than us. Unacceptable, especially after as many as four whole games.