1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

How’s the CB talent in this upcoming draft? 

Below average. Much worse than last year. There are always good nickels though 

IMO SF has a easy route to the SB.

Philly sucks, Dallas can't win on the road and Detroit isn't good enough.

SF is head and shoulders better than anyone in the NFC.  If they don't at least make the SB that's a big choke job.

There are players running WIDE ASS OPEN all game in our "simplistic" offense. Adding complexity is like #984 down on the priority list. People, watch the game. Actually watch it. The problem is we're OVERCOMPLICATING the offense. The Eagles win when they run the ball because and limit what Hurts has to do with his arm and his mind. The second we stop running the ball our drives collapse. 

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

How’s the CB talent in this upcoming draft? 

Doesn’t matter because the Eagles won’t draft one. They’ll draft a third round project wr because he’s fast and had one hell of a combine. They’ll compare him to Watkins.

46 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The offense i think has a play calling and personnel problem. It’s that your OC isn’t doing any favors to your Qb and the offense when dialing up randomness, hurts is playing like crap and been a Turnover machine/inconsistent all year and your run blocking one play will look good and the next we have guys not blocking the right guy or blocking no one. Second to last offensive possession we had the ball run blocking showed what it’s been like all year. Swift gains 11 yards. Guys blocked well. Next play on first down, not great blocking blocking and swift gets 3 yards. Swift took what he could get. They run again on 2nd down and they get absolutely  nothing cause the Seahawks DL just worked them. Their running game issues aren’t just swift not hitting a right hole. They’re inconsistent with their run blocking play to play. 

Hurts being a turnover machine and making bad decisions is on Hurts for continuously making bad decisions and careless with the ball. Having quez Watkins and garbage behind aj brown and smith is a personnel problem. Having Stoll and Calcaterra being basically useless behind goedert is a personnel problem. Run blocking being inconsistent play to play goes back to your players not playing well. Can attribute OC and sirianni for some of that. But some of this falls on personnel not doing their jobs but getting paid like they are.  

don’t get me wrong i don’t think on offense personnel is the biggest issue with the offense. Unless we are considering hurts turnovers and inconsistency as a personnel issue. Sirianni and Brian Johnson routinely look lost as the season has carried on with game plan and situational football.

That said also heard what dgunn talk about the Dc. 100% was a shot at the eagles for doing what they did and having similar end results in the second half on defense. 

Its fair to take a swipe at the Eagles for the DC move.   BUT, at the same time, it isn't just the personnel either.  Both can be bad.  And both ARE bad.

41 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The offensive coaching needs to start treating Hurts as a rookie or struggling backup.  
 

They need to simplify the game for him.  Don’t give him the free rein to change calls at the LOS.  Stop going for deep plays when every one is a disastrously bad throw.  Short stuff to TEs, Slants to AJ, digs to Smith.

He can’t handle a complex passing offense right now, so call the game you’d call if Mariota was playing.

He doesn't have the arm for it.  

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Yep, going to be some work to turn it around but the gauntlet has finally ended and the final three are against much weaker competition and at home or one hour north up the highway.  Totally doable and not a stretch.

At least one person has faith.

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

That’s part of the problem yeah. Another part of the problem is this insistence of the big play. Even in situations where actually that isn’t what the game situation calls for. Swift yesterday showed what the game called for. He slide down in bounds to avoid stopping the clock.

Swift was smart on that play to slide. It’s something we’ve seen other backs that have been here not do and run out of bounds to stop the clock. Issue was their next two play calls their run blocking was subpar then absolutely awful on second down. That’s been the story of the eagles run blocking (when we actually commit to running the ball) since after the buccaneers game. 

@mattwill

Eagles 17

Giants 23

Bonus: Hurts sucks again.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Swift was smart on that play to slide. It’s something we’ve seen other backs that have been here not do and run out of bounds to stop the clock. Issue was their next two play calls their run blocking was subpar then absolutely awful on second down. That’s been the story of the eagles run blocking (when we actually commit to running the ball) since after the buccaneers game. 

Completely agree. Swift recognised the situation and realised the clock at that point was more important had a few more yards. Shame Hurts didn’t appreciate the same just a couple of plays later.

1 minute ago, mayanh8 said:

There are players running WIDE ASS OPEN all game in our "simplistic" offense.

They really aren't. The two big examples are Smith on a blitz (that's on coaching for not making this the hot route in the progression). The 2nd one was Gainwell on the 2nd Love INT. Hurts was too aggressive and should have checked it down given he had the timeout. 

5 snaps for OZ, 36 for Quez. It's the coaching.

Just now, Saltpeter said:

5 snaps for OZ, 36 for Quez. It's the coaching.

I mean that’s disgraceful! You can’t have Quez out there because he offers nothing. He’s there to stretch the field but you can’t throw him the ball because it’ll be intercepted.

I just don’t get the bombs. First one you are driving to try and end the game, you throw a bomb and it’s picked off. Watkins shows zero effort. The second one again 20 seconds left, 2 timeouts, you have a shot to get in fg range but instead throw a bomb and it is again picked off.

36 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Who has more passing yards Monday…Hurts or Devito?

Mariota.   

 

27 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I know you build your team through the draft but FA has gutted this team. Howie has not done a good job at all when it comes to replenishing players lost. The 2023 class is alarming but they've lost key players and contributors every year and have done a poor job in replacing.

 

2021- Joe Flacco, Anthony Harris, Hassan Ridgeway, Andrew Adams, Ryan Kerrigan, Le'Raven Clark

2022- Hasson Reddick, Greg Ward, Andre Chachere, Anthony Harris, Boston Scott, Zach Pascal, Derek Barnett, Kyzir White, Devon Allen, Jaquiski Tartt

2023- Terrell Edmunds, Nick Morrow, Justin Evans, Marcus Mariota, Greedy Williams, Fletcher Cox, James Bradberry, Boston Scott, Rashaad Penny, Jason Kelce, BG, Brett Toth, Kentavious Street, Dan Arnold

 

2021 FA losses- Jalen Mills, Rudy Ford, Cam Johnston, Duke Riley, Nate Sudfeld, Nate Gerry, Vinny Curry, Jason Peters, Cr'evon LeBlanc

2022 FA losses- Steven Nelson, Rodney McLeod, Alex Singleton

2023 FA losses- Javon Hargrave, Marcus Epps, Kyzir White, TJ Edwards, Miles Sanders, CJGJ, Robert Quinn, Andre Dillard, Isaac Seumalo, Zach Pascal, Gardner Minshew

 

 

I’ll just flat out say it. Howie is not a good talent evaluator. He should handle contracts. That’s it. 

Just now, xxeaglesfanxx said:

I just don’t get the bombs. First one you are driving to try and end the game, you throw a bomb and it’s picked off. Watkins shows zero effort. The second one again 20 seconds left, 2 timeouts, you have a shot to get in fg range but instead throw a bomb and it is again picked off.

It’s poor situational football. Hurts has to recognise there that first and foremost you need to get in to FG range. From there see what time you have and see if there’s a shot to win it.

Howie seems to live and die off of his trades and FA signings. Over the past year…. 

Bradberry - I get why they re-signed him but he sucks

Byard - hasn’t really made a difference 

Julio - nothing 

Leonard - Hopefully he changes his name back to Darius 

 

2 minutes ago, Westbrook#36 said:

@mattwill

Eagles 17

Giants 23

Bonus: Hurts sucks again.

How many turnovers will he have this week? I’ll say 3. They are -7 as a team now with Hurts having 16 of them. He might have more turnovers himself then the d has combined.

2 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

5 snaps for OZ, 36 for Quez. It's the coaching.

At least OZ can block.

Just now, EaglePhan1986 said:

Howie seems to live and die off of his trades and FA signings. Over the past year…. 

Bradberry - I get why they re-signed him but he sucks

Byard - hasn’t really made a difference 

Julio - nothing 

Leonard - Hopefully he changes his name back to Darius 

 

It worked last year so they assumed it would again. It has not.

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

It’s poor situational football. Hurts has to recognise there that first and foremost you need to get in to FG range. From there see what time you have and see if there’s a shot to win it.

It really makes you wonder about the league sometimes. Like is there someone in his ear telling him what to do?

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Howie seems to live and die off of his trades and FA signings. Over the past year…. 

Bradberry - I get why they re-signed him but he sucks

Byard - hasn’t really made a difference 

Julio - nothing 

Leonard - Hopefully he changes his name back to Darius 

 

Come on, Julio had one play where he ran 8 yards straight and then just turned around and stood still.

 

Lurie could have made that catch.

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

They really aren't. The two big examples are Smith on a blitz (that's on coaching for not making this the hot route in the progression). The 2nd one was Gainwell on the 2nd Love INT. Hurts was too aggressive and should have checked it down given he had the timeout. 

2 timeouts I think 👎

3 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Howie seems to live and die off of his trades and FA signings. Over the past year…. 

Best move Howie did was trade up for Carter. The Cunningham signing was good.

More misses than hits for sure.