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12 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I know we technically need them to win but I feel this is a ban hammer offense

Rooting for the tie

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Swift over 110 yards

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

What is the serious answer?

Sirianni does many of the same things Doug did; he manages the players, locker room, media and sets the tone for the overall culture for everyone in uniform.  Doug won the Eagles only Super Bowl with that skill set; he was not a "scheme” head coach either.

Neither was Ditka, or Tomlin, or Harbaugh, or Coughlin …. or lots of other Super Bowl winners 

Damn was hoping the Sixers were going to land Anunoby

6 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

What is the serious answer?

He sets, cultivates and maintains the culture.  That is leadership.  He creates an environment of accountability.

6 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Sirianni does many of the same things Doug did; he manages the players, locker room, media and sets the tone for the overall culture for everyone in uniform.  Doug won the Eagles only Super Bowl with that skill set; he was not a "scheme” head coach either.

Neither was Ditka, or Tomlin, or Harbaugh, or Coughlin …. or lots of other Super Bowl winners 

This is true...and it's a lot to mention Siri in that same breath.  And Doug washed out as soon as he lost those SB winning coordinators.  And all of those things are plastered all over as not going well right now.

3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

He sets, cultivates and maintains the culture.  That is leadership.  He creates an environment of accountability.

That sounds like it was copied off one of those motivational books, 7 habits of successful people or something.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

That sounds like it was copied off one of those motivational books, 7 habits of successful people or something.

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8 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

That sounds like it was copied off one of those motivational books, 7 habits of successful people or something.

 

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11 minutes ago, mattwill said:

He sets, cultivates and maintains the culture.  That is leadership.  He creates an environment of accountability.

Not so sure about that last one 

42 minutes ago, metal said:

Couple of player updates for tomorrow

 

Not great that Cunningham had a very obvious setback after 2 limited practices.

Goes without saying but 

 

ESP is right.  This is the chance for all Eagles fans to put on the Cowboys gear and root for the Cowboys.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Cardinals 23 eagles 16

Bonus: Hurts throws under 200 and is sacked 5 times as Gannon blitzes relentlessly and this coaching staff still has no idea how to beat it.

17 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

That sounds like it was copied off one of those motivational books, 7 habits of successful people or something.

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3 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

ESP is right.  This is the chance for all Eagles fans to put on the Cowboys gear and root for the Cowboys.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No. The eagles as they're currently playing can lose to any team. We shouldn't be counting any win as guaranteed, so we should be rooting for the cowboys to lose until we clinch the division. We're no longer in a position to focus on seeding, win the division and then root for other outcomes 

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Still not confident in picking an Eagles victory… 

Anyhow:

Eagles: 27

Cardinals: 17

 

Bonus: Swift 2 TDs 

I'll accept the fact that a Dallas win is not the worst thing in the world, but to me, I see a much bigger difference between the Lions winning, increasing our chances of being the 3 seed as opposed to 2 seed, and Dallas winning, increasing our chances of being the 2 seed, or possibly dropping to the 5 seed if we drop one of the next 2, which is not impossible.

I have little confidence in this team doing much damage in the playoffs beyond the WC round anyway, and even a home WC loss is not unfathomable. My happiness now lies in Dallas being eliminated ASAP, and the best way for that to happen, is for them to be on the road as much as possible.

Plus, rooting for Dallas makes me feel dirty.

 

Go Lions!

Root hard against DAL, laugh heartily if they choke, and recognize the silver lining if they don’t 

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Well maybe that's the point.  What does Siri bring to the table?  Incredible offensive scheme...nope.  Play calling (good or bad)...nope.  Defensive insight?  Nope.

 

His scheme seemed pretty good last year.

Its funny. When we had a good offense he is not being credited for it. Now that the offense stinks, all we hear over and over is that this is his offense. And how we should have brought Reich back as a consultant. And how Steichen is doing incredible things with the Colts.

Well was it good because of Steichen? Or is it Sirianni's?

The narrative conveniently changes to fit any pre-conceived notion someone has. 

56 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Damn was hoping the Sixers were going to land Anunoby

Me too, but not enough to be disappointed about today. It was a risky proposition. Seeing the players the Knicks gave up, Barrett and especially Quickley are 2 solid young players. Also gave up Aichuwa and whatever draft picks are involved.

If OG maintains his current level of play, then the 6ers having to give up guys like Melton, Batum and Covington or something along those lines, plus draft picks is a significant loss for the 76ers. We are better off with what we have.

Who knows if OG is going to regain the form he had in his career year, or if it was an anomaly. 

There are a lot of potential trade targets out there who can help the 6ers this year. He was just 1. 

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

His scheme seemed pretty good last year.

Its funny. When we had a good offense he is not being credited for it. Now that the offense stinks, all we hear over and over is that this is his offense. And how we should have brought Reich back as a consultant. And how Steichen is doing incredible things with the Colts.

Well was it good because of Steichen? Or is it Sirianni's?

The narrative conveniently changes to fit any pre-conceived notion someone has. 

I don't have any pre-conceived notions on Siriani.  We had a great offense last year, still have a very good one this year, but clearly regressed.  

This is 2017 Doug rinse and repeat.  

If these guys were Andy Reid, or Mcvay, or Shanahan, we wouldn't be wringing our hands over the OC like this.

There's no narrative here, I'm just concerned that Siri isn't one of those self sufficient coaches who can maintain their own system.

Eagles - 31

Cardinals - 17

Bonus: Pascal has his revenge game against everyone that kept calling him Pascale last year. He has 1 catch and breaks a tackle. 

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13 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

His scheme seemed pretty good last year.

Its funny. When we had a good offense he is not being credited for it. Now that the offense stinks, all we hear over and over is that this is his offense. And how we should have brought Reich back as a consultant. And how Steichen is doing incredible things with the Colts.

Well was it good because of Steichen? Or is it Sirianni's?

The narrative conveniently changes to fit any pre-conceived notion someone has. 

Seems like Nick has regressed and/or he’s missing Shane’s input with game planning. 

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don't have any pre-conceived notions on Siriani.  We had a great offense last year, still have a very good one this year, but clearly regressed.  

This is 2017 Doug rinse and repeat.  

If these guys were Andy Reid, or Mcvay, or Shanahan, we wouldn't be wringing our hands over the OC like this.

There's no narrative here, I'm just concerned that Siri isn't one of those self sufficient coaches who can maintain their own system.

I dont think we actually know if he has an offense or not. Or the better question is- if we are running his offense or not.

He came here and one thing we expected a lot of was RBs in the passing game since the colts utilized Hines so much. We didnt get that at all. 

We had a sub-par QB trying to find a way to stick as a starter in the NFL and converted to an offense full of RPOs and read options. Im not sure this was Siri's original system. It seems to be a system developed to best help Hurts succeed in the only way that he can. Hurts regressed, and so the offense built around his skillset has suffered.

 

It really doesnt make sense for a HC to have his own offense, and then be completely hands off with play calling with two different OCs. The current one being someone who seemed, and is proving to be underqualified. Why would this happen? Why would a HC with his own system leave HIS offense completely up to his assistants? The logical answer is because this isnt Siri's offense. So hes letting the college offense guys, RPO/Read Option guys call it because its their schtick, not his.

 

How do you get a good coordinator who will stick around? Find a smart offensive mind who failed as a HC and isnt a top candidate for teams anymore. Schwartz was that kind of DC for a bunch of years. Zimmer was a DC like forever. There have to be guys on the offensive side that fit the profile. But if you get a real offense, you may also need a real QB. 

 

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I dont think we actually know if he has an offense or not. Or the better question is- if we are running his offense or not.

He came here and one thing we expected a lot of was RBs in the passing game since the colts utilized Hines so much. We didnt get that at all. 

We had a sub-par QB trying to find a way to stick as a starter in the NFL and converted to an offense full of RPOs and read options. Im not sure this was Siri's original system. It seems to be a system developed to best help Hurts succeed in the only way that he can. Hurts regressed, and so the offense built around his skillset has suffered.

 

It really doesnt make sense for a HC to have his own offense, and then be completely hands off with play calling with two different OCs. The current one being someone who seemed, and is proving to be underqualified. Why would this happen? Why would a HC with his own system leave HIS offense completely up to his assistants? The logical answer is because this isnt Siri's offense. So hes letting the college offense guys, RPO/Read Option guys call it because its their schtick, not his.

 

How do you get a good coordinator who will stick around? Find a smart offensive mind who failed as a HC and isnt a top candidate for teams anymore. Schwartz was that kind of DC for a bunch of years. Zimmer was a DC like forever. There have to be guys on the offensive side that fit the profile. But if you get a real offense, you may also need a real QB. 

 

That's all fair and I don't disagree...but it comes back to the unfortunate and likely reality that either Siri or Hurts simply aren't good enough.  Either Hurts is still an elite franchise QB and is being hamstrung by a terrible offensive scheme with predictable routes and targets...which may be directly on Brian Johnson but is just unacceptable for Siri.  Or Hurts fooled everyone with smoke and mirrors last year and the coaches are scrambling to cover for him playing like crap this year.

It's one.  It's the other.  Or it's a little bit of both.  But it's not good for this franchise either way.

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