Dalass won which is always bad but we got a shot at 2 seed at least. Now just hope for the slim chance 69ers lose another game.

8 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

He was uncovered.

If he was an eligible receiver , which is why he reported, he can't be covered, or else he's ineligible again.  

8 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

That didn't even matter, he needed to be covered by an eligible receiver off the line. 

Why would he need that, if he was an eligible receiver ON the line?

7 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I just watched the play again. Reynolds was off the LOS so Decker wasn't uncovered like I thought. It wouldn't have been illegal formation after all.

Correct.   Officials screwed up... and should have thrown a flag at the snap for an illegal formation as well, if he hadn't reported which they didn't.

 

The NFL officiating issues are getting worse, not better.   I will never say that a game is completely decided by an official because there are points in a game which can change the outcome in either team's favorite.  (Missing an easy safety that immediately becomes a 92 yard TD, for example)... but, the NFL has a real problem, because two 10+ teams met in a nationally televised game, played a great game that went to the wire, but the story isn't about the game, but about an official's decision.  That is BAD for the NFL and leads to the conspiracy theory stuff we hear about.  How could NY not call and say that the rules stipulate that there is NO limit to the number of players that can report... which is obvious on punt downs where a bunch of eligible numbers report as ineligible...  same mechanic, but in reverse.  Bad NFL... very BAD.

7 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Well the Eagles road to the SB just got much easier.  They may not take that road, but it’s there nonetheless.

2 crap teams and then a NFCCG in SF where there isn’t much HFA.  That’s easier than a bye, Dallas, and SF.

I wouldn’t bet on the Eagles beating the last seed at home, but they still are going to end up with a nice path.

Gotta seal the deal themselves first by winning the next 2.  I don't take that for granted.

7 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I think Schwartz is wrong there, technically it would've been ineligible receiver down field, not illegal formation. 

 

Nevermind, the rule does state the receivers on the end must be eligible. Yeah so it did all come down to who reported. What a shitshow.

Would have been both.  The old #68 was uncovered on the end of the line, making him eligible BY FORMATION. 

 

 

Interestingly the rigging of the system for Dallas stops outside of Texas though. Lol.  Can't buy a road game it seems.

7 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Maybe three needs to be a more objective and less asynchronous way to report eligibility. Can you imagine if this was how a playoff game ended?

It essentially was a playoff game... massive implications for the playoffs.  Knocked Lions out of the hunt for HFA, and a loss for Dallas would have essentially knocked them out of the division title hunt.

Massive seeding implications. 

@mattwill

Eagles: 27

Cards: 23

Bonus: Michael Wilson breaks his 2 game 0 catch streak with a 100+ yard game.

1 hour ago, Bebop56210 said:

Dalass won which is always bad but we got a shot at 2 seed at least. Now just hope for the slim chance 69ers lose another game.

For the next two weeks I'm the biggest R-word fan.

 

F'n shoot me.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Game today

Oh yeah? Who's playing?

 

Oh yeah, Miami and Baltimore at 1 PM.  That should be a great game.  Miami could wrestle the lead for the 1 seed away from Baltimore if they win.  But if they lose and then lose next week to the Bills, they could fall all the way to the 6 seed.  Massive swing.  Miami has a brutal schedule to end the year.

Eagles for whatever reason always seem to have some struggles with the Cardinals. We have beaten them more of late, though.

I saw rigged trending on X this morning, had a look and laughed. It had to be the Cowboys getting a favourable call at home to win a game. 

That one play is why I'm not wasting my time on the NFL, apart from Eagles games, at the moment. Why bother investing time in watching a game when something like that happens?  It's desperately poor and will have repercussions across the whole playoffs now.  Because 1 official didn't listen closely enough.

I love the NFL and college football so much but both products are internally flawed and going in the wrong direction fast. IMO, nothing better than a disaster bowl season and clear as day referee mistakes might be needed to right the ships for both of these sports. The NFL CAN'T ignore this? Can they? They have to make changes. Just like NCAA needs to get the transfer portal and opt outs under control. If they don't we know they don't give s flying you know what about the integrity and direction the game is going. 

FYI, the QB fined was Hurts for his tackle after his INT last week.

 

5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I love the NFL and college football so much but both products are internally flawed and going in the wrong direction fast. IMO, nothing better than a disaster bowl season and clear as day referee mistakes might be needed to right the ships for both of these sports. The NFL CAN'T ignore this? Can they? They have to make changes. Just like NCAA needs to get the transfer portal and opt outs under control. If they don't we know they don't give s flying you know what about the integrity and direction the game is going. 

They care about the money, in both cases.  So, until the fans of both stop paying for crap, they won't care.   Its why I don't watch Thursday Night Football (and I already had a Prime Membership, so it would have cost me nothing to tune in).   Until people start to refuse to watch and refuse to pay for the inferior product that is being paraded around, nothing will change.  I haven't tuned in to more than maybe a quarter of any bowl game this year.   Why would I?  One of the major things I would look for was how the highly rated prospects performed on a bigger stage, against better competition.... but now these guys almost all skip the bowls.  And now, they have the transfer portal open BEFORE the bowls, and players skip because of that too.   I started calling players out when they first started skipping bowl games in order to 'prepare for the draft'.  McCaffrey did it, and I don't like him because of it.  One of the Bosa brothers decided to skip about half to 2/3rds of the season because of it.   And we've seen what these players have ended up winning at the next level.  McCaffrey has a shot this year, but he plays for a guy that's known for regular season successes only to crumble in crunch time, including one of the worst crumbles in the history of the Super Bowl.   I'll believe in the 49ers when I see it actually happen, and not a moment sooner.   Their track record is what it is.  

The products, right now, are still raking in huge sums of money.   When that golden goose starts to taper off, that is when we will see meaningful change.   With the NFL, instead of looking at fixing the bad officiating, they are looking to change rules in the NFL that will be even harder to properly AND CONSISTENTLY enforce properly.  They want to ban the Shove/Push.  They want to change the touchback rule for a fumble in the end zone... etc.    How about they work on getting better officials and make the mechanics of the game better WITHOUT changing rules.  

With the NCAA, they are just expanding the playoff, but still doing nothing about the rest of the bowl games, in fact, they might be making them worse in the process.  

49 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

It essentially was a playoff game... massive implications for the playoffs.  Knocked Lions out of the hunt for HFA, and a loss for Dallas would have essentially knocked them out of the division title hunt.

Massive seeding implications. 

I didn’t watch the game and was hoping for a Lions win. 
Not that it matters or would’ve mattered, but did the Lions not throw a fit after that call? Did Campbell not throw a challenge flag to talk to the refs?! I know,  flags can’t be challenged, but sometimes the coaches do it anyway?

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Frankfurteagle89 said:

I didn’t watch the game and was hoping for a Lions win. 
Not that it matters or would’ve mattered, but did the Lions not throw a fit after that call? Did Campbell not throw a challenge flag to talk to the refs?! I know,  flags can’t be challenged, but sometimes the coaches do it anyway?

Can't throw a challenge flag at that point in the game (inside of 2 minutes)... would have been another flag, not sure if 5 or 15 yards... and they still would have needed a PAT but were going for 2 to win te game regardless.  A flag would have killed them.   AND... if over the PA, the referee announced that it was #70, not #68 that reported eligible, it means that what he understood was mistaken, and no argument would have mattered.  The referee screwed up.   And he should be held accountable... like, he should be suspended without pay for the remainder of the season and in eligible for the playoffs.   But, he'll probably get a WC game anyway.  

 

I'd love to know what the NFL does to hold officials accountable when they make egregious errors (like this one).   Whatever it is, it isn't enough, because the issues are increasing, not decreasing.

Meanwhile, I am secretly happy that the officials did what they did and tried to force the hand of the Lions to just take the PAT and get the game to OT... because I really wanted a tie.   And they were...

@mattwill

Eagles - 37

Cards - 17

Swift, Smith, and Brown each over 100 yards 

The NFL will do what most sports do. Ignore the issue, hope it goes away and if needed, throw some new meat onto the grill for people to look at to move the story along.  They will not change nor make anyone on the officiating side accountable.

Dan Campbell not throwing his toys out of the pram did them no favours. They can't fine him, can't fine Decker to brush it under the carpet.  They have to own it, but they won't

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Can't throw a challenge flag at that point in the game (inside of 2 minutes)... would have been another flag, not sure if 5 or 15 yards... and they still would have needed a PAT but were going for 2 to win te game regardless.  A flag would have killed them.   AND... if over the PA, the referee announced that it was #70, not #68 that reported eligible, it means that what he understood was mistaken, and no argument would have mattered.  The referee screwed up.   And he should be held accountable... like, he should be suspended without pay for the remainder of the season and in eligible for the playoffs.   But, he'll probably get a WC game anyway.  

 

I'd love to know what the NFL does to hold officials accountable when they make egregious errors (like this one).   Whatever it is, it isn't enough, because the issues are increasing, not decreasing.

Oh ok - thanks for the explanation.👍

 

I just saw the refs statement on Sportscenter, where he stated that Nr. 68 did not report eligibility. Saw the play as well. Wtf, why lie about it! It’s there for all to see!! Man up and say you made a damn mistake. Why can’t people just admit mistakes they made?! Geez 🤦🏼

1 minute ago, Frankfurteagle89 said:

Oh ok - thanks for the explanation.👍

 

I just saw the refs statement on Sportscenter, where he stated that Nr. 68 did not report eligibility. Saw the play as well. Wtf, why lie about it! It’s there for all to see!! Man up and say you made a damn mistake. Why can’t people just admit mistakes they made?! Geez 🤦🏼

Because in this instance, the outcome was more severe than we've maybe ever seen and would be a bad, bad look for the NFL 

Not saying you're wrong, but they're gonna sweep this under the rug and deny, deny, deny 

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Meanwhile, I am secretly happy that the officials did what they did and tried to force the hand of the Lions to just take the PAT and get the game to OT... because I really wanted a tie.   And they were...

Was hoping for a tie as well, but kind of knew, that wasn’t going to happen. 
 

Still don’t understand them going for it from the 7 yard line. Take the extra point.

 

Too many coaches get to cute with these constant risky 4th downs etc.. They refuse to take easy points like it was in the old days. Now it’s all about analytics.

5 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

The NFL will do what most sports do. Ignore the issue, hope it goes away and if needed, throw some new meat onto the grill for people to look at to move the story along.  They will not change nor make anyone on the officiating side accountable.

Dan Campbell not throwing his toys out of the pram did them no favours. They can't fine him, can't fine Decker to brush it under the carpet.  They have to own it, but they won't

Campbell took the extreme high road despite his anger.   I would have said something along the lines of, "They TOLD ME, that this guy reported and not that guy... and that only one guy can report.  These are all false narratives and we practiced this a million times and even told the refs about it pregame so that when the situation arose, they'd be prepared and not screw it up."  Take the fine.  And when the fine comes, ask if this money will be used to reward the "incompetence" of the refs or if it will be used to get them the training they so desperately require.   And then pay the SECOND fine.   

1 minute ago, Swoop said:

Because in this instance, the outcome was more severe than we've maybe ever seen and would be a bad, bad look for the NFL 

Not saying you're wrong, but they're gonna sweep this under the rug and deny, deny, deny 

Doesn’t it already look extremely bad?! I think people would/could go easier on it if they would just admit they messed up. People make mistakes and refs do it all the time. Be man enough to admit you screwed up. It’s not thaaaaat hard. But I guess deny, deny, deny - reflect has entrenched itself in more places than just the NFL.😅