24 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t think Sirianni gets fired. The OC and supporting coaching staff will be first to go. But 2024, he is squarely on the hot seat. He signed a 5 year contract that runs through the 2025 season. They certainly aren’t extending him if he doesn’t fix this next year and I doubt he enters 2025 as a lame duck. 2024 he will be coaching for his job. 

I doubt we'll break .500 next year, so he'll most definitely be on his way out within a years time. 

24 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t think Sirianni gets fired. The OC and supporting coaching staff will be first to go. But 2024, he is squarely on the hot seat. He signed a 5 year contract that runs through the 2025 season. They certainly aren’t extending him if he doesn’t fix this next year and I doubt he enters 2025 as a lame duck. 2024 he will be coaching for his job. 

They are going to promote Mariota to OC just to piss me off.

21 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

This is the moment my FF money league team has been waiting for ever since I drafted him in the 7th round.

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Call me cold, but no player over 30 should matter at all.  They're not part of the Eagles' future, and that includes Kelce.  

The way the roster is currently built the nucleus is Hurts, Brown, Smith, Goedert (who turns 29 tomorrow), Mailata, Dickerson on offense and Davis, Carter, Reddick, Sweat on defense.  That's your nucleus starting next season.  Notice no LBs or DBs currently part of your nucleus going forward. 

They should matter, you want feedback from everyone and you look for what's consistent in the feedback.  We have veterans who have played for different regimes and know what it takes to win, including the Super Bowl win.

You have young guys who came from some of the top college programs who also know great coaching and what it takes to win, and won championships.  So all of it is valuable.  If the young guys are feeling like their NFL coaches aren't as disciplined or quality as their college coaches, ouch.  If the veterans who have seen it all are pointing out issues with the coaching that's valuable info.

I just hope Lurie is really paying attention and seeing all the red flags and will take necessary action.  Siri will likely have another year, but he needs quality coordinators and to right this ship.

13 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Baldy on PHLY basically called Jordan Davis unplayable right now. Said he's overweight and can't move and essentially by playing him are a man short in their DT rotation.

😬

He was bad as a rookie.  Lots of excuses getting thrown around, but he was bad.  He was a true force early this year.  He wasn't really a game wrecker, but he was a steady relentless force towards the backfield.  Despite the defense's inability to get off the field, he has been in a heavy rotation with light snaps.  And he's just gassed now.  He's not doing anything that 34 year old Linval Joseph wasn't doing this time last year.  

7 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

As far as the roster for next year, here is where I am at:

QB -- Let Mariota walk and have McKee and a cheap vet battle for the backup spot. Tyrod Taylor makes sense to me. 

RB -- Unless he is cheap, let Swift walk and go bargain shopping again. Gainwell is under contract, and Scott would be cheap. If Swift takes a 2 year, ~$8mm deal, then OK. Otherwise, spend cap dollars elsewhere. 

WR -- Extend Smith. Draft a #3 WR prospect. I wouldn't HATE Zaccheus on the cheap. Assume Julio retires.

TE -- Draft/sign a competent backup for when Goedert misses games.

OL -- Kelce is likely gone, so Jurgens moves to center and Steen is the RG. I don't see Lane walking away, but look for his replacement in the draft. Bring Opeta back if he is cheap enough. Extend Dickerson.

DE -- Either first round pick or splash FA signing (or both). Short extensions for Reddick and Sweat maybe. Graham is likely gone (if he wants to come back for peanuts to get his 15th year he has talked about...OK). Biggest need on team.

DT -- Let Williams play out his contract. If the number is low enough...bring back Fletch. He is still playing well. Give Ojomo more of a chance.

LB -- FA splash signing, along with real competition for Dean at the other spot. At close to the vet minimum, I'd consider Cunningham.

CB -- Bradberry post June 1 cut. Slay is back (contract), let the kids fight for CB 2. Draft

S - Reed and a FA

Agree mostly.  I'd like to bring back Swift but not for too much money.

I don't think they'll draft a corner, they'll go with Slay and feel good about Ricks, Ringo and with Isaiah Rodgers coming off suspension.  They can bring back Roby on a cheap deal.

Safety they also have Brown, I think they'll slate him and Blankenship as starters.  Byard, not sure if they keep him as a backup or cut him but then you just have to sign someone else.  

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

He was bad as a rookie.  Lots of excuses getting thrown around, but he was bad.  He was a true force early this year.  He wasn't really a game wrecker, but he was a steady relentless force towards the backfield.  Despite the defense's inability to get off the field, he has been in a heavy rotation with light snaps.  And he's just gassed now.  He's not doing anything that 34 year old Linval Joseph wasn't doing this time last year.  

What Baldinger is saying makes no sense. He played 40 of 76 snaps this past game. If he was "unplayable," Marlon would have ben active and Davis wouldn't have payed more than Carter.

Just now, NOTW said:

Agree mostly.  I'd like to bring back Swift but not for too much money.

I don't think they'll draft a corner, they'll go with Slay and feel good about Ricks, Ringo and with Isaiah Rodgers coming off suspension.  They can bring back Roby on a cheap deal.

Safety they also have Brown, I think they'll slate him and Blankenship as starters.  Byard, not sure if they keep him as a backup or cut him but then you just have to sign someone else.  

Byard is 100% getting cut as it frees up over $13mm in cap

9 minutes ago, Birdman said:

I doubt we'll break .500 next year, so he'll most definitely be on his way out within a years time. 

What??? Not even I'm that negative.If they get an inventive OC alone they won't be that bad.

Just now, vikas83 said:

Byard is 100% getting cut as it frees up over $13mm in cap

Ah, didn't know that cap number.  yep, he's gone.

Double team both DTs, let the edges run wide, dare the LBs to make a play. Rinse and repeat.

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

Agree mostly.  I'd like to bring back Swift but not for too much money.

I don't think they'll draft a corner, they'll go with Slay and feel good about Ricks, Ringo and with Isaiah Rodgers coming off suspension.  They can bring back Roby on a cheap deal.

Safety they also have Brown, I think they'll slate him and Blankenship as starters.  Byard, not sure if they keep him as a backup or cut him but then you just have to sign someone else.  

Brown slipped my mind...

Amazingly, the roster is in OK shape, other than DE and LB. On offense, there are no major needs. I agree at CB they may roll with Ringo, Ricks, Rodgers and Jobe. Cutting Maddox would have $2.3mm -- no way he stays on the roster with a $10mm cap hit (either cut or restructure). But you have to replace Slay at some point.

If you can get DE, LB and WR3 in FA, you can focus on BPA in the draft with 3 picks in the 1st 2 rounds.

1 hour ago, paco said:

Sure you could do that.  

 

Or you can do what the eagles do and throw a few of these guys in the middle of the field

One of those might at least knock down a pass. 

22 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

You asked what happens if they fire Sirianni and his replacement is worse. It was a loaded question. I gave you the reality of what happens. What happens is nothing. That's the risk of hiring coaches, there's nothing you can do about that. You get some right and you get some wrong. I don't know how you expected me to answer that question. If they decide they don't want to keep Sirianni, what are they supposed to do... keep him anyway because they're afraid they'll hire a worse coach? If that's their mentality and they aren't confident they can hire a good coach, then they should never be in charge of the hiring process ever again.

Where did I say they shouldn’t fire him because he couldn’t find a better coach? but your response to people of it’s a given we’d get him harbaugh or Ben Johnson if we fire sirianni and if we don’t and managed to miss out and be worse we’ll at least we tried. that’s tough luck. No, it would be tough luck. It would be poor management.

I also don’t believe after Sirianni probably overachieved in 2021, and definitely overachieved in 2022 (as nobody before the season thought Jalen hurts was gonna be an MVP candidate or they get to the Super Bowl besides RTK— we all thought they’d be better but need a franchise Qb at the end of 2022 and that’s why howie accumulated picks) everyone in that locker room is out on him. So after one frustrating year, the entire locker room has not given up on Nick Sirianni? I have a hard time believing that especially when you see players frustrate. If players were showing apathy, I would think they give it up on him. But they’re not. The only one that is a WR that’s likely diva cause most are. They’re frustrate. I think the players are willing to still believe in Nick Sirianni, I don’t think the players are willing to believe in Brian Johnson, or Matt Patricia/Desai to fix the problem. It’s why I think they’re going to fire the offensive and defensive coordinators and hire a completely different guys.

let me just tell you about Jim Harbaugh, the reason things didn’t work out in San Francisco is because he wanted more power in player personnel. Do you think that’s Fing happening here? Yeah I don’t see that either. As howie runs the show. So he is not Fing coming here. So one of your solution is a bs pipe dream .

again, your response is well that’s a tough work is a BS response. You can say that about any Fing thing in life as a response to a bad decision. If you are smart, rational and think it through, you should get yourself into that bad of a position. I guess it’s just been tough luck for the commanders bad decision after bad decision. Or maybe be smart enough not to put yourself in that position.

 

 

8 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Agree mostly.  I'd like to bring back Swift but not for too much money.

I don't think they'll draft a corner, they'll go with Slay and feel good about Ricks, Ringo and with Isaiah Rodgers coming off suspension.  They can bring back Roby on a cheap deal.

Safety they also have Brown, I think they'll slate him and Blankenship as starters.  Byard, not sure if they keep him as a backup or cut him but then you just have to sign someone else.  

I wouldn't bring back Roby for free. No more 32 year old CB's. IF you have to sign him Week 3 or whatever in an emergency, ok, but he shouldn't be a part of the offseason plan. Besides you have Maddox and Rodgers as slot CB's. Don't need Roby as a 3rd and I don't want to see him outside.

Byard is getting cut for sure. He would likely get cut if he was great. We aren't paying him a roster bonus of $4M and a $10M base salary.

27 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

As far as the roster for next year, here is where I am at:

QB -- Let Mariota walk and have McKee and a cheap vet battle for the backup spot. Tyrod Taylor makes sense to me. 

RB -- Unless he is cheap, let Swift walk and go bargain shopping again. Gainwell is under contract, and Scott would be cheap. If Swift takes a 2 year, ~$8mm deal, then OK. Otherwise, spend cap dollars elsewhere. 

WR -- Extend Smith. Draft a #3 WR prospect. I wouldn't HATE Zaccheus on the cheap. Assume Julio retires.

TE -- Draft/sign a competent backup for when Goedert misses games.

OL -- Kelce is likely gone, so Jurgens moves to center and Steen is the RG. I don't see Lane walking away, but look for his replacement in the draft. Bring Opeta back if he is cheap enough. Extend Dickerson.

DE -- Either first round pick or splash FA signing (or both). Short extensions for Reddick and Sweat maybe. Graham is likely gone (if he wants to come back for peanuts to get his 15th year he has talked about...OK). Biggest need on team.

DT -- Let Williams play out his contract. If the number is low enough...bring back Fletch. He is still playing well. Give Ojomo more of a chance.

LB -- FA splash signing, along with real competition for Dean at the other spot. At close to the vet minimum, I'd consider Cunningham.

CB -- Bradberry post June 1 cut. Slay is back (contract), let the kids fight for CB 2. Draft

S - Reed and a FA

Agree completely on RB.  Too much work to do to worry about a position that is both short-lived and easily replenished.  Mid-round pick if the right guy is there, late round pick in a trade, 2nd tier FA...whatever, options abound.

Agree on QB/WR/TE/OL.  I think they need to show some urgency in getting Lane's replacement before it costs them an entire season.

DE: We drafted Smith to replace Reddick.  He'll be pissed, but I'd let Reddick play out his last year.  Sweat is more disappointing but less imminently replaceable.  We're going to need him in 2025...so I may look for a 1 year extension there.  He'll want 2, but I'd prefer 1.  Splash FA signing is probably too pricey for an edge rusher with our cap commitments, so I think this is a big draft priority.

LB: Agree on the splash FA.  They can afford that at this position.  I don't know, however, that they can afford real competition for Dean.  They may have to find the competition off the scrap heap.

CB: Since I wouldn't make a splash at DE, this is the other area I'd look to make one.  We need lots of help here and a young, reliable, long-term vet would be much needed.

S: Brown isn't playing well, despite the incredible INT (punt) return.  But I think you need to throw some kids into the fire when you have limited resources.  He is talented and I would just turn safety over to Blankenship and Brown.

I think the FA priority should be CB/LB (we don't draft those) and the 1st/2nd round draft priority should be OT/DE (We love drafting those).  Mid round draft I'd be looking at WR/TE/CB/RB.  

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

Brown slipped my mind...

Amazingly, the roster is in OK shape, other than DE and LB. On offense, there are no major needs. I agree at CB they may roll with Ringo, Ricks, Rodgers and Jobe. Cutting Maddox would have $2.3mm -- no way he stays on the roster with a $10mm cap hit (either cut or restructure). But you have to replace Slay at some point.

If you can get DE, LB and WR3 in FA, you can focus on BPA in the draft with 3 picks in the 1st 2 rounds.

I agree, the roster isn't as bad as some make it out to be...the biggest issues I also agree are LB and DE.  They basically only have 1 starting DE because BG plays rotational part-time now, and they try to just get pass rush from DTs and pass rush specialists in Reddick and Smith.  And the LBs are mainly garbage.  You can't sign scraps in August and trade deadline has beens and expect to perform.  

Get a DE who sets the edge and disrupts the QB and LBs who are quality enough to stop the run and not allow automatic catches on short passes and that's already a big improvement.  I think the secondary can perform with a better DC coaching them.

9 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

What Baldinger is saying makes no sense. He played 40 of 76 snaps this past game. If he was "unplayable," Marlon would have ben active and Davis wouldn't have payed more than Carter.

Unplayable was an exaggeration, but he is an immobile object right now.

If the enormous man I saw chase down Josh Allen was overweight, I fear for anyone trying to block him one on one when he's at his optimal weight.

Jordan Davis looks like the least of the worries I saw 

8 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Double team both DTs, let the edges run wide, dare the LBs to make a play. Rinse and repeat.

Davis really doesn't get pushed back against a double team....good.

Bad: In contrast to Cox...who is already an old man...his feet almost literally never even move on the play until he turns towards the RB moving through the gap.  Not a single step off the snap.  He stood there.

 

9 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Brown slipped my mind...

Amazingly, the roster is in OK shape, other than DE and LB. On offense, there are no major needs. I agree at CB they may roll with Ringo, Ricks, Rodgers and Jobe. Cutting Maddox would have $2.3mm -- no way he stays on the roster with a $10mm cap hit (either cut or restructure). But you have to replace Slay at some point.

If you can get DE, LB and WR3 in FA, you can focus on BPA in the draft with 3 picks in the 1st 2 rounds.

I think if Maddox is a post June 1 cut there is a $7.5M cap savings in 2024.  Get him gone; he's not that great in the slot to compensate for how bad he is at outside CB and how often he is injured.

Jordan Davis actually played really well last year in limited snaps...against the run.  Every fan talked about how awful the run defense was when Davis got hurt.  We knew conditioning was an issue and he never played all the snaps in college.  They need to work with him in the offseason on conditioning.  If Cox doesn't return it will be Carter with Davis and Williams giving Davis a rest.  Davis isn't playing like a guy they traded up to #13 to get, giving up 3 draft picks to do it.  Have to hope he improves next year to solidify the position next to Carter.

Not to pile on Davis, who I very much wanted them to draft and who I still have high hopes for...but I'd have Milton Williams in there over him all things being equal.

17 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

As far as the roster for next year, here is where I am at:

QB -- Let Mariota walk and have McKee and a cheap vet battle for the backup spot. Tyrod Taylor makes sense to me. 

RB -- Unless he is cheap, let Swift walk and go bargain shopping again. Gainwell is under contract, and Scott would be cheap. If Swift takes a 2 year, ~$8mm deal, then OK. Otherwise, spend cap dollars elsewhere. 

WR -- Extend Smith. Draft a #3 WR prospect. I wouldn't HATE Zaccheus on the cheap. Assume Julio retires.

TE -- Draft/sign a competent backup for when Goedert misses games.

OL -- Kelce is likely gone, so Jurgens moves to center and Steen is the RG. I don't see Lane walking away, but look for his replacement in the draft. Bring Opeta back if he is cheap enough. Extend Dickerson.

DE -- Either first round pick or splash FA signing (or both). Short extensions for Reddick and Sweat maybe. Graham is likely gone (if he wants to come back for peanuts to get his 15th year he has talked about...OK). Biggest need on team.

DT -- Let Williams play out his contract. If the number is low enough...bring back Fletch. He is still playing well. Give Ojomo more of a chance.

LB -- FA splash signing, along with real competition for Dean at the other spot. At close to the vet minimum, I'd consider Cunningham.

CB -- Bradberry post June 1 cut. Slay is back (contract), let the kids fight for CB 2. Draft

S - Reed and a FA

EDIT: Yup, totally forgot about Sydney Brown

There's a few quality young safeties hopefully hitting the market this year. Same for DE. I'd definitely look to sign a safety like Winfield and if you can afford a top DE then I'd do that as well.
In the draft, one of those second rounders need to be a ILB, there's a few coming out that should be there. Starting with ax man jr and Edgerrin Cooper. The outside spot I'd address in FA. There's a few there that could fit the bill, Queen, Brooks, Jewell, Tranquill, Cashman... I'd finally be, fine there, at linebacker with a combo like this.