3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Not to pile on Davis, who I very much wanted them to draft and who I still have high hopes for...but I'd have Milton Williams in there over him all things being equal.

If you wanted to play Milton Williams more, the guy I wouldnt want to take out is Davis. I would take out Josh sweat on run downs. Josh sweat is absolutely dreadful on run plays right now.

I do think it's important to not think about LB as a first round need.

There is a reason most teams invest less in off-ball LBs.  It's not good 1st round value.  BUT...we do need immediate help there.  And you can't bank on immediate help from any rookies unless they are a 1st round pick (and even that is a bit dicey).  So that's just an overpay for need.  The solution for reliable, immediate help is FA.  But it's going to cost TJ Edwards money and then some to get a really good, reliable guy.

 

7 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Jordan Davis actually played really well last year in limited snaps...against the run.  Every fan talked about how awful the run defense was when Davis got hurt.  We knew conditioning was an issue and he never played all the snaps in college.  They need to work with him in the offseason on conditioning.  If Cox doesn't return it will be Carter with Davis and Williams giving Davis a rest.  Davis isn't playing like a guy they traded up to #13 to get, giving up 3 draft picks to do it.  Have to hope he improves next year to solidify the position next to Carter.

It's disappointing hearing this. Cox took personal responsibility to keep Davis and Carter in check and from everything reported, both had excellent off seasons and Davis lost quite a few pounds and worked hard on his conditioning... What the hell happened? Has he been sneaking out at 2am for cheesesteaks on the daily??? 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If you wanted to play Milton Williams more, the guy I wouldnt want to take out is Davis. I would take out Josh sweat on run downs. Josh sweat is absolutely dreadful on run plays right now.

True.  But to be fair, we can say that about Reddick too.

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t think Sirianni gets fired. The OC and supporting coaching staff will be first to go. But 2024, he is squarely on the hot seat. He signed a 5 year contract that runs through the 2025 season. They certainly aren’t extending him if he doesn’t fix this next year and I doubt he enters 2025 as a lame duck. 2024 he will be coaching for his job. 

I don't think Brian Johnson will go as the OC this offseason.  I think the offense is an issue but it's not totally dysfunctional. This team can move the ball and score. They have problems with situational football.  The defensive coaching staff needs a massive overhaul.  I don't think the assessment is going to be that the defense just lacked talent.  

The root issue of defense is the organizational philosophy around it.  Until that changes the crappy defense will just continue.

33 minutes ago, paco said:

This is the moment my FF money league team has been waiting for ever since I drafted him in the 7th round.

 

 

 

Howie should bring this guy in for a workout immediately. Is he completely washed up? If not, he'd make a fine 1-2 punch with Swift. Then Siri and his dunce coordinator are told to implement this guy, or else.

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If you wanted to play Milton Williams more, the guy I wouldnt want to take out is Davis. I would take out Josh sweat on run downs. Josh sweat is absolutely dreadful on run plays right now.

I think a true DE is a need.  Reddick and Sweat are both classified as speed-ball EDGE players and don't hold up great against the run.  There are edge rushers and there are defensive ends.  The Eagles need one of the latter IMO.

I mean...it can't really be this stupid and simple, right?

The Eagles are 10-2 with Zach Cunningham, and 1-3 without him. 

With him, the defense surrenders 3.72 yards per carry to RBs, and without him it is 4.88. So we are over 30% worse against RB runs with him out. 66 yards per game with him, 129 without. It's not the whole reason, but...damn.

37 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

He was bad as a rookie.  Lots of excuses getting thrown around, but he was bad.  He was a true force early this year.  He wasn't really a game wrecker, but he was a steady relentless force towards the backfield.  Despite the defense's inability to get off the field, he has been in a heavy rotation with light snaps.  And he's just gassed now.  He's not doing anything that 34 year old Linval Joseph wasn't doing this time last year.  

He wasn't bad when he started last season.  He didn't look the same when he came back after the injury.  He also didn't make the case for playing time over Suh and Joseph.  He has flashed at times but I think the scheme is just off.  He isn't getting manhandled but they are running around him.  Teams also are able to make quick throws so the coverage scheme doesn't give time for interior pressure.  DT is also a position that takes awhile to learn.  My sense is that they don't have a cohesive plan of attack from the d-line.  They seem to often just make a straight push from the interior.  They don't walk LB's up to shift protection calls.  They rarely show blitz and when they blitz it's usually a deep safety.  They don't move him around to get a favorable match  up.  There's no cohesion and plan.  

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I don't think Brian Johnson will go as the OC this offseason.  I think the offense is an issue but it's not totally dysfunctional. This team can move the ball and score. They have problems with situational football.  The defensive coaching staff needs a massive overhaul.  I don't think the assessment is going to be that the defense just lacked talent.  

I can see him coming back too. I just think Johnson would go before Sirianni in any situation.

7 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Howie should bring this guy in for a workout immediately. Is he completely washed up? If not, he'd make a fine 1-2 punch with Swift. Then Siri and his dunce coordinator are told to implement this guy, or else.

This is Howie we are talking about.

 

He'll trade them a 2025 6th rounder so bypass waivers.

Add a quality DE & LB with a new hire at DC, would change things pretty quick. 

7 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I think a true DE is a need.  Reddick and Sweat are both classified as speed-ball EDGE players and don't hold up great against the run.  There are edge rushers and there are defensive ends.  The Eagles need one of the latter IMO.

They either need to find the fountain of youth for Brandon Graham, or they need to find themselves another Brandon Graham. That’s a reality. I think they believed that Milton Williams could be a Vinny curry type player. I just don’t think Milton Williams is ever going to get to Graham’s level. So they need that type of guy. It’s why i wouldn’t be shocked if howie makes a splash in free agency on one. 

If they go out in the WC round there's no way Lurie tolerates it. That doesn't mean Sirianni is gone, but there would definitely be major changes. It would be one of the worst, if not the worst collapse of a 10-1 team in NFL history. At a minimum Sirianni stays and the rest of the staff is gutted.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I can see him coming back too. I just think Johnson would go before Sirianni in any situation.

Brian Johnson is likely going to be the fall guy.

"So you're saying there's a chance?"  😄

 

9 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I think a true DE is a need.  Reddick and Sweat are both classified as speed-ball EDGE players and don't hold up great against the run.  There are edge rushers and there are defensive ends.  The Eagles need one of the latter IMO.

They should have never released Barnett. 

5 minutes ago, NOTW said:

"So you're saying there's a chance?"  😄

 

Jason Kelce just has to murder someone and get away with it for this to work.  

7 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Add a quality DE & LB with a new hire at DC, would change things pretty quick. 

Think they need either brown to become like CJGJ or they need to find another CJGJ. I think Blankenship is closer to a Marcus Epps type guy. I also think relying on 33 year old slay to stay healthy and bradberry next year is a recipe for disaster 

Just now, NCiggles said:

Jason Kelce just has to murder someone and get away with it for this to work.  

Can we make a list for him? 

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If they go out in the WC round there's no way Lurie tolerates it. That doesn't mean Sirianni is gone, but there would definitely be major changes. It would be one of the worst, if not the worst collapse of a 10-1 team in NFL history. At a minimum Sirianni stays and the rest of the staff is gutted.

I think the Eagles had nearly unprecedented luck getting to 10-1 and the roulette wheel just started going in the other direction.  So I don't think of it as a collapse...they just aren't that good and eventually settled in towards the right record for them.

If a butterfly flaps it's wings in a different direction from Thailand, they EASILY could have lost to NE week 1, one of the Washington games, and beaten AZ and SEA...that doesn't mean much, but it'd be viewed as less of a late season collapse.