7 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'm going to guess that Sirianni is taking the bullet for Hurts here.  That's what good coaches do.   What he says to Jalen behind closed doors and what he says publicly are likely two very different things.

 

6 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup. I am not asking for pro bowlers behind pro bowlers. But really Watkins, Oz, julio, Calcaterra and Stoll aren’t nearly good enough to be a serviceable 3rd option if goedert, smith or brown get hurt. It’s an issue. They need to draft and develop some guys or hit on some FA that want to win a ring and would come for less and still have some juice left. 

I think that they could try throwing to them some time.   Instead of just assuming they suck.

Oz was the 2nd WR option in Atlanta last year.

AJ Brown yells at Hurts if Brown isn't thrown at enough.  Brown has 118 targets.  
All WRs and TEs not Brown, Smith, Goedert have a total of 39 targets the whole season.

I like Covey - Zero targets.  I like Tyree Jackson - Zero targets. 

Tyreek Hill is better than any Eagles WR but he only plays 66% of the snaps.

Put other players in there and throw to them.

22 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

 

I think that they could try throwing to them some time.   Instead of just assuming they suck.

Oz was the 2nd WR option in Atlanta last year.

AJ Brown yells at Hurts if Brown isn't thrown at enough.  Brown has 118 targets.  
All WRs and TEs not Brown, Smith, Goedert have a total of 39 targets the whole season.

I like Covey - Zero targets.  I like Tyree Jackson - Zero targets. 

Tyreek Hill is better than any Eagles WR but he only plays 66% of the snaps.

Put other players in there and throw to them.

How much time do you want me to give quez Watkins? It’s been four years. What am I gonna wait a Fing decade to realize he’s not Fing good enough as a no. 3? They have thrown to him in the past two years. When he gets thrown to like the SB he drops a perfect pass. Or last week he doesn’t come down with it or get the PI. Or he gets a screen then completely misses the hole  

how good was Atlanta’s offense last year? Not very good. There’s a reason why they let him go. He’s been in the league 4 years and yet when he became a free agent teams weren’t exactly lining up like oh he can be a top 3 wr on a team. It’s why he signed as late as he did in free agency (April 20th). If most organizations thought he was anything more than a fourth wide receiver he probably would’ve signed before a month and a half into free agency or for as little as he got

I know it is a hard to accept, but usually after 4-5 years in the league you are what you are. Oz is a 4th wide receiver, which is exactly the role he’s playing here. Watkins has gotten worse since 2021. That’s not just aj and smith being here. That’s him dropping passes, running bad routes and bad as a blocker when asked too. and he’s has multiple chances to prove worthy of no  3 wr. He isn’t 
 

 

 

7 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I am not sure how you can read Sheil's comments as being racially biased especially given Carr's comments. Sheil isn't accusing Carr of being racially biased.  I think the way to read his comments is as advisory.  Sheil rightly points out that criticism of black QB's may be viewed as rooted in racial bias.  Before you call for a QB, that was the MVP frontrunner last week, to be benched, maybe explain what you mean in detail.  In fairness, Carr did explain why he made the comment and framed it as wanting Hurts to get healthy.  He also did criticize Hurts' ability to read defenses.  Carr's suggestion that the Eagles should "bench" Hurts for Mariota at this point in the season is ridiculous. 

 

I'd rather have Hurts with a 100% healthy knee and ready to run - with a 2 or 3 seed,  than a banged up Hurts,  and banged up WRs and TEs  and no backup WRs or TEs with any game experience,  yet the 1 seed.  A lot of players should sit, and a lot of players should get reps.

Yes, Hurts, Brown, Smith and Goedert are all good.   But the Eagles are better in the playoffs if there are more players with some experience than just those 4,  and those 4 are as healthy as can be.   Getting off to a 10-2 start is good because it allows you to get your key players healthy and your less key players some experience.   And it helps you get the 1 seed.  the 1 seed gets you rest, Dallas and the 9ers.   The 2 or 3 seed gets you some lesser wild card team, then Lions, then Dallas or 9ers.   It's easier with the 2 or 3 seed.   They might have rust if they sit the players going against the wild card team. But the wild card game is easier.  They would have rust if they're the 1 seed and then against the Cowboys.   I'd rather have a little bit of rust against some Vikings or Packers or Seahawks level wild card team than the Cowboys.   I

 

 

Official gave juju an awfully nice spot. He was a good yard and a half to 2 yards not mere inches.  

8 minutes ago, NOTW said:

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, NOTW said:

 

 

Kind of hope Dallas tries to do the 49ers "blueprint” and the eagles wind up going off on it. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Kind of hope Dallas tries to do the 49ers "blueprint” and the eagles wind up going off on it. 

44-6 part II

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Kind of hope Dallas tries to do the 49ers "blueprint” and the eagles wind up going off on it. 

Hopefully. Apparently Siri is going to change things up.

 

 

Steelers burning more timeouts is always good. Somewhere bacarty is punching a kid in the parking lot. 

tomlin punting when it was 4th and 3 with 1 timeout and 5 mins is a pretty dope decision to begin with. 

New England has nothing to lose. Get the first you win. Don’t, the Steelers win and you get a higher draft pick. Should go for it on 4th down. 

BREAKING NEWS:

Looks like half of the players in college football entered the transfer portal today. 

Why’d you throw the ball 40 yards downfield on a 4th & 2?

Just being aggressive, enough said.

Unimpeachable logic.

24 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

 

If the blueprint is giving Hurts 6+ seconds to throw the ball, like he had all day on Sunday, I’m in! 

Everyone keeps trying to run the brotherly shove but can’t run it like we do…so the league wants to ban it.  What a joke. 

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Ok right… WR is a more valuable position than it was 20 years ago. Justin Jefferson had no problem standing out right away. Neither did Chase. Look at the difference AJ Brown made to this offense. A WR should be MVP this year. 

This is why I miss Shocker and prefer chatting about my bowel movements with @hputenis

Way to understand the point nincompoop 

38 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Hopefully. Apparently Siri is going to change things up.

 

 

talk is cheap lets see if it actually happens. 

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

Hopefully. Apparently Siri is going to change things up.

 

 

Patricia calling the plays?

45 minutes ago, BirdGang45 said:

talk is cheap lets see if it actually happens. 

Yup. They keep talking about their standard, playing to their potential, etc. They need to show the adjustments. 

Time to sheet or get off the pot Sirianni.

I’m curious how many long drives by Eagles opponents this year have ended in field goal attempts. It sure doesn’t seem like many. It seems like every time the other team mounts something, the defense caves at the end and surrenders the touchdown. 

14 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

How much time do you want me to give quez Watkins? It’s been four years. 4!!!!!. What am I gonna wait a Fing decade to realize he’s not Fing good enough as a no. 3? When it’s 2026 and we definitively know he’s not then guess it’ll be ok to move on from him? 

how good was Atlanta’s offense last year? Not very good. There’s a reason why they let him go. He’s been in the league 4 years and yet when he became a free agent teams weren’t exactly lining up like oh he can be a top 3 wr on a team. It’s why he signed as late as he did in free agency (April 20th). If most organizations thought he was anything more than a fourth wide receiver he probably would’ve signed before a month and a half in the free agency or for as little as he got

I know it is a hard to accept, but usually after 4-5 years in the league you are what you are. Oz is a 4th wide receiver, which is exactly the role he’s playing here. Watkins has gotten worse since 2021. That’s not just aj and smith being here. That’s him dropping passes and running bad routes. and he’s has multiple chances to prove worthy of no  3 wr. HE ISNT  

 

 

All the stuff you're saying about Watkins sucking and OZ not being great is fine.

Use Covey.  Get Tyree Jackson back.

I'm not saying that Watkins or OZ are good.

What I'm saying is that every single NFL team except the Eagles throws to more than 2 WRs and 1 TE.

The Eagles barely won a couple of games where they got a lead, had a bad 4th Q offense and had to punt a lot. The Eagles could use a big back to carry the ball.  Maybe he can run a wheel route instead of someone the Eagles rarely throw to,  like Watkins, OZ, Albert Ok, Stoll.

Nolan Smith or Ben VanSumeren could do that job.   How hard must practices be currently if all we've seen on the field are 1) targets to AJ Brown 2) targets to D Smith 3) targets to Goedert 4) Hurts running / Shove 5) Swift/Gainwell doing normal rb things sometimes well, sometimes not?  Not that hard. 
The Eagles  can spend some time teaching Nolan Smith and/or VanSumeren the basic stuff.  Getting the ball into Nolan Smiths hands should yield large dividends.   238 pounds and 4.39 40.   A short dump off pass behind the line of scrimmage becomes a big play when the guy runs a 4.39 at 238,  with a 1.47 10 split.  You also might want to give Reddick some rest so that he'll be 100% for the playoffs. Nolan Smith can do that.  VanSumeren can also play ILB.  He should be playing some ILB.   So many snaps he gets could be determined by how he does compared with other ILBs,  some have been injured.

VanSumeren was a Fullback for the Michigan Wolverines,  mostly a backup behind Ben Mason.  Did score a rushing TD, had a few other carries.  In high school, he was a rural area star,  and set a Michigan state receiving record for receptions a year.   You'd have to think that a 1000+ receiving yards in a season, 80+ catches in a season who was a Michigan Fullback, could fill a blocking and running and pass protection and catch short passes role.   He's there on the active roster right now.  Some LB in HS,  then 3 years of LB at Michigan then Michigan State, after 2 as a FB at Michigan.   He's smart,  got offers from Harvard and Yale,  so I think that he'd be able to pick up new things,  which are often similar to what he's already done.  The Eagles could just look at what he did in high school, and see if he can still do that, now that he runs a 4.45 40.    Look at what he did with the Michigan Wolverines at Fullback, and see if he can still do that.  There are youtubes and hudls that show these things.  Look at Keaton Mitchell over in Baltimore.  A guy with a 4.37 40 makes big gains.  who knew?

It's difficult to look at 4 or 5 choices in 2 or 3 seconds,  and when no one is open, far downfield, roll right and hope that someone gets open, or run.   How about 3 downfield guys - Brown, Smith,Goedert?  And 3 backfield guys.   How about Hurts, Nolan Smith, Ben VanSumeren?   Just in a line in the backfield? They're there  to pass protect. Hurts will have plenty of time to throw a long developing route. And then what? Hurts could run with 2 235 pound 4.4 speed lead blockers. Either one could take a handoff or pitch.   Plan that, practice that.   Give 2wrs and 1 te 5 seconds to get open,  then plan B,  which would often be a Jalen run, but could be a planned play, with Jalen, Nolan, VanSumeren.  You could just have Nolan and VanSumeren doing the things they've already done.  You could have Nolan at running back running for long tds.  VanSumeren running routes.   His receiving is more advanced than the typical fullback, and at 4.45, much faster than the typical fullback. And extremely strong.  So, physically, I think he could pass protect very well.   VanSumeren would be a FB lead blocking for RB Nolan at times.  Perhaps a speed option?  a typical zone read that adds on a speed option

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/5370246/59de1187ab9d431f74f519c8
VanSumeren doing stuff, running for TDs, catching TDs, in HS.

7 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

All the stuff you're saying about Watkins sucking and OZ not being great is fine.

Use Covey.  Get Tyree Jackson back.

I'm not saying that Watkins or OZ are good.

What I'm saying is that every single NFL team except the Eagles throws to more than 2 WRs and 1 TE.

The Eagles barely won a couple of games where they got a lead, had a bad 4th Q offense and had to punt a lot. The Eagles could use a big back to carry the ball.  Maybe he can run a wheel route instead of someone the Eagles rarely throw to,  like Watkins, OZ, Albert Ok, Stoll.

Nolan Smith or Ben VanSumeren could do that job.   How hard must practices be currently if all we've seen on the field are 1) targets to AJ Brown 2) targets to D Smith 3) targets to Goedert 4) Hurts running / Shove 5) Swift/Gainwell doing normal rb things sometimes well, sometimes not?  Not that hard. 
The Eagles  can spend some time teaching Nolan Smith and/or VanSumeren the basic stuff.  Getting the ball into Nolan Smiths hands should yield large dividends.   238 pounds and 4.39 40.   A short dump off pass behind the line of scrimmage becomes a big play when the guy runs a 4.39 at 238,  with a 1.47 10 split.  You also might want to give Reddick some rest so that he'll be 100% for the playoffs. Nolan Smith can do that.  VanSumeren can also play ILB.  He should be playing some ILB.   So many snaps he gets could be determined by how he does compared with other ILBs,  some have been injured.

VanSumeren was a Fullback for the Michigan Wolverines,  mostly a backup behind Ben Mason.  Did score a rushing TD, had a few other carries.  In high school, he was a rural area star,  and set a Michigan state receiving record for receptions a year.   You'd have to think that a 1000+ receiving yards in a season, 80+ catches in a season who was a Michigan Fullback, could fill a blocking and running and pass protection and catch short passes role.   He's there on the active roster right now.  Some LB in HS,  then 3 years of LB at Michigan then Michigan State, after 2 as a FB at Michigan.   He's smart,  got offers from Harvard and Yale,  so I think that he'd be able to pick up new things,  which are often similar to what he's already done.  The Eagles could just look at what he did in high school, and see if he can still do that, now that he runs a 4.45 40.    Look at what he did with the Michigan Wolverines at Fullback, and see if he can still do that.  There are youtubes and hudls that show these things.  Look at Keaton Mitchell over in Baltimore.  A guy with a 4.37 40 makes big gains.  who knew?

It's difficult to look at 4 or 5 choices in 2 or 3 seconds,  and when no one is open, far downfield, roll right and hope that someone gets open, or run.   How about 3 downfield guys - Brown, Smith,Goedert?  And 3 backfield guys.   How about Hurts, Nolan Smith, Ben VanSumeren?   Just in a line in the backfield? They're there  to pass protect. Hurts will have plenty of time to throw a long developing route. And then what? Hurts could run with 2 235 pound 4.4 speed lead blockers. Either one could take a handoff or pitch.   Plan that, practice that.   Give 2wrs and 1 te 5 seconds to get open,  then plan B,  which would often be a Jalen run, but could be a planned play, with Jalen, Nolan, VanSumeren.  You could just have Nolan and VanSumeren doing the things they've already done.  You could have Nolan at running back running for long tds.  VanSumeren running routes.   His receiving is more advanced than the typical fullback, and at 4.45, much faster than the typical fullback. And extremely strong.  So, physically, I think he could pass protect very well.   VanSumeren would be a FB lead blocking for RB Nolan at times.  Perhaps a speed option?  a typical zone read that adds on a speed option

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/5370246/59de1187ab9d431f74f519c8
VanSumeren doing stuff, running for TDs, catching TDs, in HS.

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I mean he's right that the Eagles probably need a fullback. I don't really agree with who he suggests, but again. That was SF's whole plan. They lead blocked to the edge and attacked the weakness between the corners on the ground and LBs. All game. Literally that's all they did. They didn't even try to throw near the corners. They ignored them. Brock didn't throw deep. He didn't play NFL QB. They spend the entire game attacking one specific aspect of the defense, in exactly the same way the Eagles should because the Eagles with a lead blocker of some kind would be BETTER at it.

So while I don't really agree with the personnel suggested, I do think the Eagles need to think about lead blockers besides Kelce. It's time to run more than one honestly.