54 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

As far as cheesesteaks go, I’ve heard (haven’t tried them yet) that there’s a few new good places in the Suburbs - Gazzo’s steaks (Pottstown) Jay’s steaks (Royersford) and Steaks (West Chester). 

I'll have my brother-in-law check out Jay's.  He and his wife just moved to Royersford.

We'll miss Elliss on ST. We won't miss him on defense.

He had everything opportunity to win a job and couldn't take it.

58 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

When I suggested a couple of days ago that Elliss might be the guy they released and that he might actually be claimed if they did so because of his special teams productivity, I don't recall a single Eagles fan getting upset about the idea. So all this angst about losing him now seems a bit hollow to me.

Also when you listen to Sirianni's press conference and hear his answer about Elliss, it is pretty obvious that they were not taken by surprise by the claim. They weren't caught with their pants down like they were with Casey Toohill. They would have added him to the PS if things had broken that way, but they weren't really expecting it. They seem satisfied with the addition of Leonard on defense, and they apparently like what they've seen from VanSumeren on special teams.

Also, can you imagine the outrage if they had released Albert O. ("Oh my GOD, they traded a draft pick for him! How could they do that!") or Penny ("He's our power back!") instead. Two days ago no one gave an ish about releasing Elliss and now suddenly he's irreplaceable and Howie is a moron.

That's a nice straw man.  Never said Howie was a moron, or that Elliss was irreplaceable (though finding that guy to replace him right now is unlikely).  BUT, I do disagree with the move and they don't have anyone on the roster that can fill his role as effectively as him, unless they anticipate that Leonard will be taking ST reps now (which seems highly unlikely).  

I didn't expect that they'd actually release Elliss because of his ST contributions, and I thought they'd have better options to choose from (and still do).  They can't cut VanSomething and use him still because he'd already hit his max PS elevations, so it couldn't be him.   BUT, this team is carrying Penny on the roster, getting zero contribution.  Carrying Alex O. and getting zero contribution.  Neither one is likely to be back next year, or if they are, still unlikely to contribute.  So, they released a contributor to hold on to non-contributors.  Sure.  It makes sense.  ST doesn't matter anyway... until it does, like in the SB.  But, we don't want to keep a coverage guy on the roster when we can get a guy that will likely be inactive again this week, as we match up against the most dangerous returner they are likely to see this season.  

 

I look forward to the inactive list for Sunday to once again include Alex O.

The Eagles need to invest in LB in the offseason though. Not major money or a 1st rounder, but a day two pick and a couple mid level guys in free agency. Can't go into next season this barren at the position.

44 minutes ago, Esage said:

2011Giants 25th

2006 Colts 23rd

2009 Saints 20th

2007 Giants 17th

Points allowed in the SB

2011 Giants: 17

2006 Colts: 17

2009 Saints: 17

2007 Giants: (against the best offense the NFL has ever seen) 14

Yeah, real mediocre...

Those teams may have been ranked "below average" during the regular season but played top 5 defense in the playoffs, so no they weren't below average

8 minutes ago, RLC said:

We'll miss Elliss on ST. We won't miss him on defense.

He had everything opportunity to win a job and couldn't take it.

No one is arguing anything to the contrary.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

they don't have anyone on the roster that can fill his role

Does Blankenship play ST? I assume he does some, but if not I could see him filling that role. Sorry in adance for my lack of knowledge on the regular PHI ST players.

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

https://jaydpauley.medium.com/analysis-of-the-offensive-and-defensive-ranks-for-super-bowl-champions-2dbb354ebb60#:~:text=The 5 worst defenses to,to win a Super Bowl.

 

see my last post, those teams didn't have below average defense play in the Superbowl. Just like the Eagles, played awful defense in the superbowl...the season ranking has nothing to do with the performance 

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

The Eagles need to invest in LB in the offseason though. Not major money or a 1st rounder, but a day two pick and a couple mid level guys in free agency. Can't go into next season this barren at the position.

You mean like adding Nicholas Morrow and drafting Nakobe Dean, Davion Taylor, etc. in the 3rd round?   The Eagles have done exactly as you suggest... and it has hit sometimes and missed a lot of other times.   

1 hour ago, RLC said:

Super Bowl winning teams with below-average defenses?

Saints, Colts, 2011 Giants,.

Then you have the previous two champs (Chiefs, Rams) that had average defenses. 

Now how many of those teams allowed more than 20 points in the Superbowl? 

Again, I'm talking about performance wise...not rankings...obviously we wouldn't know unless the Eagles are in the SB again if they play better than their "below average" label

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Better hope Darius Slay doesn't see this tweet or he'll comment that it's Slay.

3 minutes ago, RunItBAck said:

Points allowed in the SB

2011 Giants: 17

2006 Colts: 17

2009 Saints: 17

2007 Giants: (against the best offense the NFL has ever seen) 14

Yeah, real mediocre...

Those teams may have been ranked "below average" during the regular season but played top 5 defense in the playoffs, so no they weren't below average

The fact that those teams tightened up for the SB or playoffs, doesn't change the fact that they were all rated mediocre throughout the season and still won the SB. 

 

 

1 minute ago, Joe Ball said:

Does Blankenship play ST? I assume he does some, but if not I could see him filling that role. Sorry in adance for my lack of knowledge on the regular PHI ST players.

Blankenship has taken some ST snaps, but he's so valuable as a safety, I'd rather have the non-contributors pick up the slack.

Just now, Ipiggles said:

The fact that those teams tightened up for the SB or playoffs, doesn't change the fact that they were all rated mediocre throughout the season and still won the SB. 

 

 

ok? and last years Eagles loosened up in the SB so what's your point? That's when it matters if you tighten or loosen is my point. You want to see it come together during the playoffs..

1 minute ago, RunItBAck said:

ok? and last years Eagles loosened up in the SB so what's your point? That's when it matters if you tighten or loosen is my point. You want to see it come together during the playoffs..

I believe your point was that our defense is below avg, and therefore incapable of Winning a SB. Now you want to say the opposite, that your season ranking dont count, only the play in the games itself? Well no kidding? 

 

Just make up your mind. 

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Blankenship has taken some ST snaps, but he's so valuable as a safety, I'd rather have the non-contributors pick up the slack.

He is a stud...yeh, don't risk him getting hurt, I get it. DAL O better have their head on a swivel for him this weekend.

5 hours ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Like I said, I don't agree with who the other poster said should do it. At all. I just do think a FB would help us immensely. Preferably one with some experience.

You got a name? From the 53 or the practice squad?

15 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

Does Blankenship play ST? I assume he does some, but if not I could see him filling that role. Sorry in adance for my lack of knowledge on the regular PHI ST players.

He does, while he also plays every snap on Defense to go along with it. Against Buffalo he had 116 total snaps which is insane. Given that he has already missed time twice this year and there's 0 depth behind him, an increased role for him on ST's would be a bad idea. 

 

13 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Eagles need to invest in LB in the offseason though. Not major money or a 1st rounder, but a day two pick and a couple mid level guys in free agency. Can't go into next season this barren at the position.

I don't want a stop gap veteran LB or a cheap ST guy that they try to put in a starting position.

I want them to invest in a guy who's in or entering his prime. Give me Patrick Queen or Kenneth Murray. I don't see Devin White getting out of TB but he would be incredible too. Those 3 are all 26 and I'd love them on a 3-year deal.

Mack Wilson is a guy who I think is ready to flourish too. Get him out of NE. 

I really thought Jabril Cox was going to turn in to a very solid pro but after his knee injury Dallas gave up on him and he hasn't done a think with WFT. I'd take a flier on him as depth/ST athlete. 

26 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

You mean like adding Nicholas Morrow and drafting Nakobe Dean, Davion Taylor, etc. in the 3rd round?   The Eagles have done exactly as you suggest... and it has hit sometimes and missed a lot of other times.   

Someone of more prominence than Morrow, but not at the level of a high level guy. And yes, like investing in Dean and Taylor in the 3rd. Saying they need to invest a day two pick at the position isn't an implication that they haven't done so in the past. It's an implication that they have, have failed, and need to continue to invest because the LB group sucks.

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Someone of more prominence than Morrow, but not at the level of a high level guy. And yes, like investing in Dean and Taylor in the 3rd. Saying they need to invest a day two pick at the position isn't an implication that they haven't done so in the past. It's an implication that they have, have failed, and need to continue to invest because the LB group sucks.

They definitely suck... and might actually need to invest MORE, in at least 1 LB.  They've invested primarily as half measures at LB.  They need to do better.

@mattwill

I think offense bounces back this week, but defense will crap the bed 

Cowboys - 36

Eagles - 30 

Bonus: Penny gets a rushing TD, Lamb goes for over 200 with 2 TD's 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They definitely suck... and might actually need to invest MORE, in at least 1 LB.  They've invested primarily as half measures at LB.  They need to do better.

They fixed their WR problem by continuing to invest in it over and over. When you aren't great at evaluating certain positions, that's the best way to solve it. The difference though is they're more likely to do that at WR since they value that position in the top 4 of positions to value and they value LB nowhere close.

But it would be nice to have at least one young stud LB even if the rest of the unit is meh.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s a fullback thing 

someone is trying to say that it's somehow VanS fault, but he was out of call ups.