May 5, 20205 yr 14 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: Black kid goes out for a jog, three hillbillies plan an ambush for him and execute him. All caught on tape. When confronted by the police they claimed the kid was a burglar and that they had tried to talk with him. Trump's America. The 911 calls show the dispatcher was asking the men what Arbery is doing that was of criminal concern, Merritt said. "They didn't give any answer for that, they said, 'He's a black man running down our road,'" First racially motivated murder in Us history huh? Why did trump start that?
May 5, 20205 yr Just now, Ride the Walrus said: Charged? They should be given the death penalty. Just disgusting. Bakari Sellers had the best take. A little more than 50 years ago fathers and sons in Deep South used to go out at night lynching any vulnerable black people they could find. It wasn't just a murder. It was a modern day, father-son lynching.
May 5, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: First racially motivated murder in Us history huh? Why did trump start that? I know you get your feelers hurt when someone ties racist behavior to a racist president. Don't cut your wrists over it. We'll be on to the next topic soon.
May 5, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, mayanh8 said: I know you get your feelers hurt when someone ties racist behavior to a racist president. Don't cut your wrists over it. We'll be on to the next thing soon. My feeling are never hurt by criticism of Trump, but to suggest he's responsible for that young man's murder is ridiculous. Those idiots' racism exists independent of trump. I know you get your feelers hurt when people won't blame trump for every person's wrongdoing in the country. Don't cut your wrists over it. We'll be on to the next thing soon.
May 5, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: Bakari Sellers had the best take. A little more than 50 years ago fathers and sons in Deep South used to go out at night lynching any vulnerable black people they could find. It wasn't just a murder. It was a modern day, father-son lynching. It was. Even if he was a robber, you aren't the cops. This isn't Soviet Russia as much as these Cons what it to be. He is innocent until proven by a court of law he is guilty. He right to life was stolen by a bunch of racist hicks. If he did a crime, which I doubt, he'd been punished by the system society that you agree to be part of has. People like this just disgust me and should get the ultimate punishment. There is 0 reason on any planet that this should happen. There is a police force that these dopes probably worship with their whole Blue Lives Matter, so let them do their job. I went to undergrad in North Carolina and thankfully have never seen anything like this. Georgia, granted, is an entirely different place. I remember going through Mississippi as a kid and spending a night at some fancy house/hotel thing. It was weird and sad like the overt racist from the white heads to the black workers.
May 5, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: My feeling are never hurt by criticism of Trump, but to suggest he's responsible for that young man's murder is ridiculous. Those idiots' racism exists independent of trump. I know you get your feelers hurt when people won't blame trump for every person's wrongdoing in the country. Don't cut your wrists over it. We'll be on to the next thing soon. "Trump's America" certainly means Trump killed these kids. And definitely doesn't mean he's representative of racist behavior in America. Both coherent and salient points that I never considered.
May 5, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: "Trump's America" certainly means Trump killed these kids. And definitely doesn't mean he's representative of racist behavior in America. Both coherent and salient points that I never considered. Since you have tied the murderous behavior of these racist animals to trump, how exactly is he responsible for their actions?
May 5, 20205 yr 15 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: Since you have tied the murderous behavior of these racist animals to trump, how exactly is he responsible for their actions? Considering the notion that Trump is responsible is, in fact, your own narrative... I'll have to put some thought into my answer. It's a tough one. But it's always the questions you'd never actually think to ask that are always the most challenging. I'll get back to you.
May 5, 20205 yr Anyway. Back to the topic at hand before the rando with reading comprehension issues started positing on weird culpability theories of the case...
May 5, 20205 yr 33 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: Anyway. Back to the topic at hand before the rando with reading comprehension issues started positing on weird culpability theories of the case... That explains why they weren't immediately arrested even though they should have been.
May 5, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, mayanh8 said: "Trump's America" certainly means Trump killed these kids. And definitely doesn't mean he's representative of racist behavior in America. Both coherent and salient points that I never considered. Ugh, the left is the absolute worst.
May 5, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Ride the Walrus said: Charged? They should be given the death penalty. Just disgusting. Im sick from that.
May 6, 20205 yr While Trump is certainly the catalyst for a lot of the renewed bravado from these types of scumbags, I'd venture a guess that these hillbillies were racist animals long before the dotard started shining his orange light under their rocks. You guys should take a look at what happened in Shenandoah back in 2008. Hate crime mixed with a little bit of police corruption.
May 6, 20205 yr 13 minutes ago, L.E said: While Trump is certainly the catalyst for a lot of the renewed bravado from these types of scumbags, I'd venture a guess that these hillbillies were racist animals long before the dotard started shining his orange light under their rocks. You guys should take a look at what happened in Shenandoah back in 2008. Hate crime mixed with a little bit of police corruption. What do you expect from Obama’s America?
May 6, 20205 yr 10 hours ago, Kz! said: What do you expect from Obama’s America? Do you think Trump and Biden should both face their accusers?
May 6, 20205 yr 12 hours ago, PoconoDon said: That explains why they weren't immediately arrested even though they should have been. There has been extreme backlash about the fact that they weren't charged immediately. That explains why. But it still sucks. It's feeding the idea that this kid and his family aren't going to get a fair shake in a hillbilly safe haven.
May 6, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, mayanh8 said: There has been extreme backlash about the fact that they weren't charged immediately. That explains why. But it still sucks. It's feeding the idea that this kid and his family aren't going to get a fair shake in a hillbilly safe haven. One of the benefits of social media is that widespread attention can be brought to incidents like this one, and those involved can't hide like they used to. The D.A.'s recusal is a good step and the special prosecutor is a good step, but the need for a "County" grand jury is nonsensical. If that area is a lingering hotbed of old racist ideas, then that grand jury likely won't find enough to charge even with the video evidence. Bring in an outside grand jury if you're a scaredy cat prosecutor or here's a novel idea: quit passing the buck on the decision, finish the investigation and arrest these men for what they've done. Given what we know, it's probably a case where you could arrest now and finish while they're in custody. Generally you have 180 days to bring them to trial from arrest and this investigation would be 99% over in about 2 weeks...just waiting on some lab results at that point. Watching inept or disingenuous law enforcement and prosecutors always bothers me. That crime shouldn't happen any more, but since it did, i say quit messing around and do the job right.
May 6, 20205 yr 16 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: One of the benefits of social media is that widespread attention can be brought to incidents like this one, and those involved can't hide like they used to. The D.A.'s recusal is a good step and the special prosecutor is a good step, but the need for a "County" grand jury is nonsensical. If that area is a lingering hotbed of old racist ideas, then that grand jury likely won't find enough to charge even with the video evidence. Bring in an outside grand jury if you're a scaredy cat prosecutor or here's a novel idea: quit passing the buck on the decision, finish the investigation and arrest these men for what they've done. Given what we know, it's probably a case where you could arrest now and finish while they're in custody. Generally you have 180 days to bring them to trial from arrest and this investigation would be 99% over in about 2 weeks...just waiting on some lab results at that point. Watching inept or disingenuous law enforcement and prosecutors always bothers me. That crime shouldn't happen any, more but since it did, i say quit messing around and do the job right. Right before Barnhill recused (the second DA assigned to the investigation), he gave his legal opinion that he'd decline to bring charges on the following grounds... 1. The victim was mentally ill. Barnhill did not elaborate on this accusation. (There has been zero evidence that Ahmaud had any mental health issues) 2. The shooter was well within his rights to be armed and confront someone he suspected of breaking the law (seems to be a gray area based on local laws) 3. The victim had a prior shoplifting conviction. His priors validated the shooter's claims that the victim was the aggressor. (I mean, we all saw the video).
May 6, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: Right before Barnhill recused (the second DA assigned to the investigation), he gave his legal opinion that he'd decline to bring charges on the following grounds... 1. The victim was mentally ill. Barnhill did not elaborate on this accusation. (There has been zero evidence that Ahmaud had any mental health issues) 2. The shooter was well within his rights to be armed and confront someone he suspected of breaking the law (seems to be a gray area based on local laws) 3. The victim had a prior shoplifting conviction. His priors validated the shooter's claims that the victim was the aggressor. (I mean, we all saw the video). Barnhill is a racist idiot trying to protect the suspects. Glad he's off the case. his rationale is a pile of poop. Let's hope the State A.G. or, if needed, the federal govt. ensures justice is done.
May 6, 20205 yr 36 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: Right before Barnhill recused (the second DA assigned to the investigation), he gave his legal opinion that he'd decline to bring charges on the following grounds... 1. The victim was mentally ill. Barnhill did not elaborate on this accusation. (There has been zero evidence that Ahmaud had any mental health issues) 2. The shooter was well within his rights to be armed and confront someone he suspected of breaking the law (seems to be a gray area based on local laws) 3. The victim had a prior shoplifting conviction. His priors validated the shooter's claims that the victim was the aggressor. (I mean, we all saw the video). #3 is fake right ?
May 6, 20205 yr 13 hours ago, Kz! said: What do you expect from Obama’s America? I get this isn't a serious reply, but Obama became president in 2009. Attributing specific killings to the sitting president is always going to be an exercise in partisanship. That said, if you don't think Trump's election and subsequent rhetoric relating to white nationalists and specifically Charlottesville has made latent racists louder and more overt in their actions I think you're being naive. And I do think that has some measurable effect in aggregate on rates of crimes such as this. So while it's foolish to try and tie this egregious act of violence fueled, at least in large part, by racist attitudes to the behaviors of this president, it's also reasonable to discuss in connection with these acts the effect this president's ascendancy may have had on race relations and empowerment of racist worldviews.
May 6, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I get this isn't a serious reply, but Obama became president in 2009. Attributing specific killings to the sitting president is always going to be an exercise in partisanship. That said, if you don't think Trump's election and subsequent rhetoric relating to white nationalists and specifically Charlottesville has made latent racists louder and more overt in their actions I think you're being naive. And I do think that has some measurable effect in aggregate on rates of crimes such as this. So while it's foolish to try and tie this egregious act of violence fueled, at least in large part, by racist attitudes to the behaviors of this president, it's also reasonable to discuss in connection with these acts the effect this president's ascendancy may have had on race relations and empowerment of racist worldviews. Right and Obama's criticism of police emboldened the man who committed the BLM attack in Texas that killed 5 officers and injured 9 others. While I think it'd be foolish to tie that egregious act of violence fueled, at least in large part, by anti-police attitudes to the behaviors of Obama, it's also reasonable to discuss in connection with these acts the effect Obama's ascendancy may have had on anti-police sentiment and the empowerment of anti-police worldviews.
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