Let’s talk OL for a second.  The scenarios everyone is discussing:

1. Jurgens center with Steen vs Hennessy OG

2. New center…Hennessy vs high draft pick with Jurgens staying at RG.

 

I really don’t like option 2.  Jurgens silenced a lot of doubters by playing admirably at RG this year, but he’s a prototypical C, not RG.  He was a high second round pick because of how he projects as a C with our OL philosophy, not because of his traits as a G.  While he’ll be "fine” at RG, I don’t think he’ll play up to that pick status or match his fit as a C.  I see Jurgens at RG as "forcing it” more so than Steen at RG.

1 hour ago, garingovt2000 said:

Could White make a change to 3-4 OLB like Reddick?

 

If so, then who are the middle linebackers? Baun is also better as an outside LB, Burks is a special teamer. That's an awful lot of outside pass rushers. I think White was signed to be in the middle really but who knows. 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Let’s talk OL for a second.  The scenarios everyone is discussing:

1. Jurgens center with Steen vs Hennessy OG

2. New center…Hennessy vs high draft pick with Jurgens staying at RG.

 

I really don’t like option 2.  Jurgens silenced a lot of doubters by playing admirably at RG this year, but he’s a prototypical C, not RG.  He was a high second round pick because of how he projects as a C with our OL philosophy, not because of his traits as a G.  While he’ll be "fine” at RG, I don’t think he’ll play up to that pick status or match his fit as a C.  I see Jurgens at RG as "forcing it” more so than Steen at RG.

I think you need more competition and a higher level of talent at RG. Zak Zinter could be a nice fit there. Jurgens and Steen is just too much of a drop off for my liking. We are used to Kelce and Brooks/Seumalu. That looks really mediocre. I want the elite line we've been accustomed to. 

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Let’s talk OL for a second.  The scenarios everyone is discussing:

1. Jurgens center with Steen vs Hennessy OG

2. New center…Hennessy vs high draft pick with Jurgens staying at RG.

 

I really don’t like option 2.  Jurgens silenced a lot of doubters by playing admirably at RG this year, but he’s a prototypical C, not RG.  He was a high second round pick because of how he projects as a C with our OL philosophy, not because of his traits as a G.  While he’ll be "fine” at RG, I don’t think he’ll play up to that pick status or match his fit as a C.  I see Jurgens at RG as "forcing it” more so than Steen at RG.

I had 0 doubts about him as a center, as a rookie.  After playing RG I have a little doubt. 

But I think he will be a better C than Guard. He's certainly looked it so far. 

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Interestingly Huff is listed as a DE, like Sweat and Graham.

So for now OLB is Reddick and Smith.

Baun's position I think remains in question. 

I don’t want Nolan Smith to be a wasted pick that is buried on the depth chart.  I really like him.  I like Huff a lot too.  Honestly, I’d rather just jump into the future with both as our primary edge rushers.  So I like any listing that promotes their usage and invests less resources into declining assets (Reddick and Sweat).

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t want Nolan Smith to be a wasted pick that is buried on the depth chart.  I really like him.  I like Huff a lot too.  Honestly, I’d rather just jump into the future with both as our primary edge rushers.  So I like any listing that promotes their usage and invests less resources into declining assets (Reddick and Sweat).

If Huff was a double digit Sack guy as a rotational pass rusher,  I have no problem if Smith can become that behind Reddick till Reddick is gone. 

They'll all be used.  How productive Smith can be in his time on the field is up to him. 

10 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Pro Days this week -  Anyone you're looking to see (other than Quinyon Mitchell)?

March 18

• Colorado State
• Fresno State
• Georgia State
• Iowa
• Miami
• Syracuse
• Texas A&M
• Troy
• 
  March 19

• Toledo
• Wyoming

March 21

• California
• Eastern Kentucky
• Florida
• Holy Cross
• Houston Christian
• New Hampshire
• Notre Dame
• Rice
• Stanford
• Utah
• Virginia State

March 22

• Auburn
• Boston College
• Florida State
• Kentucky
• Michigan
• Missouri

 

Today?

Edge Cooper - LB A&M

Darrin Holker - Colorado State TE

Erick All - Iowa TE

 

Can't say I'd have any complaints about this...

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Let’s talk OL for a second.  The scenarios everyone is discussing:

1. Jurgens center with Steen vs Hennessy OG

2. New center…Hennessy vs high draft pick with Jurgens staying at RG.

 

I really don’t like option 2.  Jurgens silenced a lot of doubters by playing admirably at RG this year, but he’s a prototypical C, not RG.  He was a high second round pick because of how he projects as a C with our OL philosophy, not because of his traits as a G.  While he’ll be "fine” at RG, I don’t think he’ll play up to that pick status or match his fit as a C.  I see Jurgens at RG as "forcing it” more so than Steen at RG.

Jurgens is the starting center going into training camp.  They have no interest in starting him a RG.  My guess is that they wanted Hennessy as a back up with starting experience at C. The competition will be at the RG position. I think the battle will be between Steen, Hennessy and a draft pick for the starting role.  

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Jurgens is the starting center going into training camp.  They have no interest in starting him a RG.  My guess is that they wanted Hennessy as a back up with starting experience at C. The competition will be at the RG position. I think the battle will be between Steen, Hennessy and a draft pick for the starting role.  

100% agreed.

18 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Let’s talk OL for a second.  The scenarios everyone is discussing:

1. Jurgens center with Steen vs Hennessy OG

2. New center…Hennessy vs high draft pick with Jurgens staying at RG.

 

I really don’t like option 2.  Jurgens silenced a lot of doubters by playing admirably at RG this year, but he’s a prototypical C, not RG.  He was a high second round pick because of how he projects as a C with our OL philosophy, not because of his traits as a G.  While he’ll be "fine” at RG, I don’t think he’ll play up to that pick status or match his fit as a C.  I see Jurgens at RG as "forcing it” more so than Steen at RG.

I didn't think it was questioned that Cam was starting at center

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

Jurgens is the starting center going into training camp.  They have no interest in starting him a RG.  My guess is that they wanted Hennessy as a back up with starting experience at C. The competition will be at the RG position. I think the battle will be between Steen, Hennessy and a draft pick for the starting role.  

I know some peops in here are pretty anti-Penn State but Caedan Wallace is intriguing to me.  Good size and athleticism ..  Can play both OG and OT

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Jurgens is the starting center going into training camp.  They have no interest in starting him a RG.  My guess is that they wanted Hennessy as a back up with starting experience at C. The competition will be at the RG position. I think the battle will be between Steen, Hennessy and a draft pick for the starting role.  

Hennessy shouldn't be able to beat out Steen; he played OT in high school and switched to C in college.  I think he only played one college game at guard -- mind you, that's one more game than Steen played at guard.  Still, Steen has 15-20 pounds on Hennessy and we would hope Stoutland has spent the past year getting him practice reps at guard.

It'll be interesting to see where these guys slot in.  Steen will either be a starting RG or a swing OT.  Hennessy will be a backup IOL and start at C if Jurgens goes out.  We'll have to see if the Eagles still have any plans to bring Jack Driscoll back.  Apparently, Opeta has signed with Tampa Bay.

We will be drafting two olinemen 

book it 

13 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Today?

Edge Cooper - LB A&M

Darrin Holker - Colorado State TE

Erick All - Iowa TE

 

Tory Horton at Colorado state can help himself a lot too. I don't think he will have a great WR workout.  But if he does...

Steen will be the starting RB, it would take a heck of a rookie performance to beat him out.

But they'll want a rookie OG b/c Steen is probably the first option at RT, and Lane probably won't play 17 games.

Steen moved from LT to RG as a rookie, you know Stoutland will be pushing him to make a jump this year.

No one has signed Driscoll, if he isn't getting decent offers, I can see him returning as depth.

Just now, austinfan said:

Steen will be the starting RB, it would take a heck of a rookie performance to beat him out.

But they'll want a rookie OG b/c Steen is probably the first option at RT, and Lane probably won't play 17 games.

Steen moved from LT to RG as a rookie, you know Stoutland will be pushing him to make a jump this year.

No one has signed Driscoll, if he isn't getting decent offers, I can see him returning as depth.

Forget to log out of your random regular account? Steen a RB?

If you're gonna be selective, what better place than the coordinator you swear by?

26 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Today?

Edge Cooper - LB A&M

Darrin Holker - Colorado State TE

Erick All - Iowa TE

 

How do you feel about Payton Wilson?

Do you think he's too much of an injury risk to pick in the second round? FWIW, if it's between him or Cooper for #50 or #53 I'd pick Edgerrin every time. Just wondering if you'd still pick Payton if Cooper was already selected.

8 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Steen will be the starting RB, it would take a heck of a rookie performance to beat him out.

But they'll want a rookie OG b/c Steen is probably the first option at RT, and Lane probably won't play 17 games.

Steen moved from LT to RG as a rookie, you know Stoutland will be pushing him to make a jump this year.

No one has signed Driscoll, if he isn't getting decent offers, I can see him returning as depth.

Barkley is C and Jurgens stays at RG? 

Devante Parker is speaking today with Kenny Pickett, so he likely signed this morning

@Connecticut Eagle

9 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Steen will be the starting RB, it would take a heck of a rookie performance to beat him out.

But they'll want a rookie OG b/c Steen is probably the first option at RT, and Lane probably won't play 17 games.

Steen moved from LT to RG as a rookie, you know Stoutland will be pushing him to make a jump this year.

No one has signed Driscoll, if he isn't getting decent offers, I can see him returning as depth.

I'd pay to watch Steen play RB for a series.

6 minutes ago, Eagz said:

How do you feel about Payton Wilson?

Do you think he's too much of an injury concern to pick in the second round? FWIW, if it's between him or Cooper for #50 or #53 I'd pick Edgerton every time. Just wondering if you'd still pick Payton if Cooper was already selected.

I'd go Cooper, Wilson, Gray in that order in R2.

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

Barkley is C and Jurgens stays at RG? 

No I saw what Zeke did during his career as a C

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Devante Parker is speaking today with Kenny Pickett, so he likely signed this morning

@Connecticut Eagle

They're never going to be able to separate the two of them.

34 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Let’s talk OL for a second.  The scenarios everyone is discussing:

1. Jurgens center with Steen vs Hennessy OG

2. New center…Hennessy vs high draft pick with Jurgens staying at RG.

 

I really don’t like option 2.  Jurgens silenced a lot of doubters by playing admirably at RG this year, but he’s a prototypical C, not RG.  He was a high second round pick because of how he projects as a C with our OL philosophy, not because of his traits as a G.  While he’ll be "fine” at RG, I don’t think he’ll play up to that pick status or match his fit as a C.  I see Jurgens at RG as "forcing it” more so than Steen at RG.

 

30 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

I think you need more competition and a higher level of talent at RG. Zak Zinter could be a nice fit there. Jurgens and Steen is just too much of a drop off for my liking. We are used to Kelce and Brooks/Seumalu. That looks really mediocre. I want the elite line we've been accustomed to. 

 

30 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I had 0 doubts about him as a center, as a rookie.  After playing RG I have a little doubt. 

But I think he will be a better C than Guard. He's certainly looked it so far. 

Wouldn't be opposed to drafting someone like Cooper Beebe in R2. I haven't looked that much into guards but I think it's a likely pick around there.