2 hours ago, T-1000 said:

I predict that one of Justin Simmons or Stephon Gilmore will be Eagles before the draft. I refuse to believe that they are done adding to a secondary that was so horrible last year. It sure would be nice if they used 22 on a corner but we all know they are going OT.

Cooper DeJean

23 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

3 cone and shuttle are running.  running + turning.  running + stopping.

Mahomes is a running QB. 

However,  there is math involved.  2 groups of QBs   "running" and "non running".

Running QB are best.  Correct.

However,  that doesn't mean that the worst running QB is better than the best non running QB.

You add them up and divide.  Running QBs are best.

 

24 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I think Pickett is quite a bit better than what Mariota showed last season.

I think your conclusion is a) unsupported by any statistical category in the sport apart from interceptions per throw and b) is like being crowned tallest pygmy on the island / hottest chick in the STD clinic / smartest idiot in the village anyway.

32 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I think Pickett is quite a bit better than what Mariota showed last season.

Neither are much at throwing long but Pickett gets blamed for some of Canada’s failings just like Hurts bore the blame for Nick’s and Johnson’s failings (and Howie’s too).  But Mariota has always been a bit erratic and is a step down from what Washington had last year. Howell and Brissett. That said I would take Pickett and second year McKee over last year Mariota and first year McKee.  And certainly for the price DC paid.  

That said, the gnats write up sounds like the expect Lock to start over Jones and view that as an upgrade.  That had me .

6 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

I think your conclusion is a) unsupported by any statistical category in the sport apart from interceptions per throw and b) is like being crowned tallest pygmy on the island / hottest chick in the STD clinic / smartest idiot in the village anyway.

It might become quite important if Hurts doesn't start protecting himself better.  He's been injured to some extent every season so far; hopefully that will be a benefit of the Barkley signing.  Mariota hasn't contributed anything in the NFL since 2018, other than quitting and walking out on the Falcons in 2022.  He was a rather bad Howie signing last year.  Pickett will be more capable and more motivated if he's called upon this season.

I wouldn't really want either one starting more than 1-2 games, but Pickett IMO would give the Eagles a chance to win, whereas Mariota would be an automatic loss.

11 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

That said, the gnats write up sounds like the expect Lock to start over Jones and view that as an upgrade.  That had me .

The Giants should be in the JJ McCarthy market at #6.  No one ever said they make wise drafting decisions, though.

I just think he's turned in to a terrific teammate. He's got a super authentic and genuine personality that I think players gravitate towards. I would have loved him on this team as a backup. He's the BG of backup QBs. Happy, friendly, team oriented. Yes, he made some mistakes in college but it's hard to deny the work he's put in. I look at the video below and think Russell Wilson would have made that feel cringy as hell. 

 

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The Giants should be in the JJ McCarthy market at #6.  No one ever said they make wise drafting decisions, though.

I was amazed they signed Jones long term after turning down his 5th year, I'm even more amazed if Daboll is hitching his career wagon to him.

9 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

It might become quite important if Hurts doesn't start protecting himself better.  He's been injured to some extent every season so far; hopefully that will be a benefit of the Barkley signing.  Mariota hasn't contributed anything in the NFL since 2018, other than quitting and walking out on the Falcons in 2022.  He was a rather bad Howie signing last year.  Pickett will be more capable and more motivated if he's called upon this season.

I wouldn't really want either one starting more than 1-2 games, but Pickett IMO would give the Eagles a chance to win, whereas Mariota would be an automatic loss.

As bad as Mariota is, he still threw more TD passes 13 starts in Atlanta than Kenny has in his entire career of 24 starts.  And just as Mariota quit and walked out on the Falcons when he was benched, Pickett did the same thing at the end of last season with the Steelers.

As @Cochis_Calhoun pointed out, your confidence in Pickett is backed buy nothing of substance.

9 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

As bad as Mariota is, he still threw more TD passes 13 starts in Atlanta than Kenny has in his entire career of 24 starts.  And just as Mariota quit and walked out on the Falcons when he was benched, Pickett did the same thing at the end of last season with the Steelers.

As @Cochis_Calhoun pointed out, your confidence in Pickett is backed buy nothing of substance.

Passer rating 2023

Mariota - 82.5
Pickett - 81.4

Rushing yards per carry 2023

Mariota - 6.5
Pickett - 1.3

Passer rating Career

Mariota - 89.2
Pickett - 78.8

Rushing yards per carry Career

Mariota - 5.8
Pickett - 3.0

Cost

Mariota - more
Pickett - less

Just now, paco said:

That’s brilliant! But also given I visit Chicago at least once a year I’m glad they’ve decided to stay downtown.

2 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

Passer rating 2023

Mariota - 82.5
Pickett - 81.4

Rushing yards per carry 2023

Mariota - 6.5
Pickett - 1.3

Passer rating Career

Mariota - 89.2
Pickett - 78.8

Rushing yards per carry Career

Mariota - 5.8
Pickett - 3.0

Cost

Mariota - more
Pickett - less

Career stats mean little today. Mariota was never a good QB and now he's a straight up bum. Today's Pickett >> Today's MM. Also supporting cast matters. 

10 minutes ago, paco said:

When the last great QB you had played 75 years ago .... you may want to consider building a domed stadium.  

1 hour ago, Random Reglar said:

3 cone and shuttle are running.  running + turning.  running + stopping.

Mahomes is a running QB. 

However,  there is math involved.  2 groups of QBs   "running" and "non running".

Running QB are best.  Correct.

However,  that doesn't mean that the worst running QB is better than the best non running QB.

You add them up and divide.  Running QBs are best.

 

Someone let Tom Brady know that he's not the best.   Or Montana.  Or Manning (Peyton, not Archie or Eli).   

 

Just so I know... what am I adding, and what am I dividing by?    Add their 40 time, shuttle time and 3 cone, then divide by their height in cms added to their mass in kg?   And what does that mean?  What's the best score they could hope to achieve?

 

 

Absolutely in play at 22. 

5 minutes ago, RLC said:

Absolutely in play at 22. 

If we draft an EDGE at 22 and hold on to Reddick I will be thoroughly annoyed 

Even if they don't it would be annoying. That would meant they spent their biggest free agent signing and best draft pick to fill a hole they themselves created. And people wonder why the back 7 always sucks.

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

If we draft an EDGE at 22 and hold on to Reddick I will be thoroughly annoyed 

They are accumulating Edge assets... and by blocking anyone else from acquiring any, they will corner the market.

 

Step 1 : Steal all the Edges.

Step 2:   🤷‍♂️

Step 3:  Profit!

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They are accumulating Edge assets... and by blocking anyone else from acquiring any, they will corner the market.

 

Step 1 : Steal all the Edges.

Step 2:   🤷‍♂️

Step 3:  Profit!

You added them up but forgot to divide! 

If they draft an EDGE in the top 50...

2024: Smith, Huff, Sweat, Graham, Reddick, Rookie
2025: Smith, Huff, Rookie, ???, ???, ???

It's not that hard to envision.

12 minutes ago, RLC said:

If they draft an EDGE in the top 50...

2024: Smith, Huff, Sweat, Graham, Reddick, Rookie
2025: Smith, Huff, Rookie, ???, ???, ???

It's not that hard to envision.

Long term, sure. But for 2024 you have:

Sweat/Reddick unhappy playing limited snaps in contract years.

Huff unhappy still being a rotational pass rusher.

Smith not getting enough snaps to grow.

Graham getting unnecessary nostalgia snaps because he wants a farewell tour.

Rookie deactivated on game days 

24 minutes ago, RLC said:

Absolutely in play at 22. 

Eagles are about to employ a 6-1-4 defense

It's not hard to envision, but if you want an improved back 7 eventually you have to start investing your best picks into it. And this edge draft isn't great.

The 4th best edge in this draft would be like the 6th best in a good edge class. Something to keep in mind as well.