57 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

You know you are a redneck when...

 

40 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

You'll have to weigh the money saved on TP vs the increased amount spent on pinkeye drops from all the poop covered fingers. 

 

49 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

 

55 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

You sound like someone who tells the kids going to the Camden Aquarium is a vacation. 

1 hour ago, TEW said:

He can play guard until Lane is gone.

Or fullback... maybe middle linebacker.

43 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

Not really

2023: Thuney, Martin, Smith, Lindstom. 3 1st rounders + Thuney in RD3.
2022: Bitonio, Thuney, Martin, Lindstom. 2 1st rounders + high RD2 (35 overall) + RD3
2021: Bitonio, Nelson, Martin, Teller. 2 1st rounders + high RD2 + RD5,
2020: Nelson, Bitonio, Scherff, Teller. 2 1st rounders + high RD2 + RD5

In the past 4 years. One all pro OG on day 3. Most are 1st rounders.

I shouldn’t have said all pro, I think that’s an subjective vote . I mean high level guards. Many more high level guards in the NFL than high level tackles, which the NFL is kind of starved of right now.

WR in 1st rd is a bad idea. I can be talked into a WR in the 2nd though 

9 hours ago, RLC said:

Great trade for Buffalo. Diggs was flat out bad in the 2nd half of last year.

He’s the sole reason they lost to KC in the playoffs.  He straight quit in that game.

1 hour ago, TEW said:

The question is which individual player would make us better?

You don’t draft positions, you draft players, and there is a VERY good chance a WR will be the best prospect on the board.

There is a school of thought that says you should use your high draft picks at positions that are most expensive to replace outside of the draft.  Since drafted players slot into a predetermined salary level per the CBA regardless of position, there is cap value on using high draft picks on QB, EDGE, WR, DT, OT — the highest paid positions — into a cost-controlled contract for 4 years (plus 5th year option for first round picks).

Not saying the Eagles strictly adhere to this rationale necessarily, but it’s a logical reason why we don’t see them using first round picks on LB, RB, TE, S, etc.  Of course, you ideally want to draft the best player available at your draft position, but many teams (including the Eagles) have a tier system of rating prospects.  If there are two or more prospects of the same tier, that positional value can be the deciding factor 

9 hours ago, paco said:

IMO, I feel like he quit on them.

I touched this above…he straight up quit in the playoffs.

If they use one of the 2’s on wr I’m fine with it 

11 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

WR in 1st rd is a bad idea. I can be talked into a WR in the 2nd though 

Exactly 

17 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

If they use one of the 2’s on wr I’m fine with it 

If they do he better not be exclusively a slot guy. Better be a guy who starts in the slot with WR1 upside.

Quick poll:

If Brock Bowers falls to 22 do you take him? I say no.

1. Don't usually like going TE in round 1

2. To me unless you're a generational TE(a la Gronk or Kelce) the difference between like the 6th best NFL TE and the 13th best NFL TE is pretty negligible. And just based on pure odds, Bowers isn't going to be generational. Most players aren't. Heard the same thing about Pitts and Vernon Davis. I've seen too many TEs not pan out with mega hype.

3. Eagles have a championship window and too many other needs.

4. Rightly or wrongly, the "there's only one football" issue is a thing. You bring in another guy who's going to demand targets. Him, Devonta, AJ, Goedert, Barkley, possibly a day 2 WR. That's a lot of egos to keep happy every week.

5. Probably will be some team willing to trade up for him.

6. And this is just a personal one. I'm sick of Howie's just drafting people from Georgia shtick. Enough, dude. We get it, you got burned for years passing on the SEC. Find a new slant.

Howie is going to go interior OL, DT and QB with his first 3 picks just the annoy all of us. 

2 hours ago, hputenis said:

@vikas83 Need your transparency here. My wife recently saw a hack on her Instagram where some wife chopped all her paper towel rolls in half to save money. I recently did it to appease her, and it definitely saves us more paper towels, especially with 2 daughters.  We both spend money carelessly at all times and both have lucrative careers. However, does this make me financially responsible, or am I amongst the poorest of the poor? 

You may or may not have sparked a debate on if we use too many towels or not enough. 

31 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Quick poll:

If Brock Bowers falls to 22 do you take him? I say no.

 

To be honest, I’d probably say yes

He’s gone in top 10-12 picks though

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

There is a school of thought that says you should use your high draft picks at positions that are most expensive to replace outside of the draft.  Since drafted players slot into a predetermined salary level per the CBA regardless of position, there is cap value on using high draft picks on QB, EDGE, WR, DT, OT — the highest paid positions — into a cost-controlled contract for 4 years (plus 5th year option for first round picks).

Not saying the Eagles strictly adhere to this rationale necessarily, but it’s a logical reason why we don’t see them using first round picks on LB, RB, TE, S, etc.  Of course, you ideally want to draft the best player available at your draft position, but many teams (including the Eagles) have a tier system of rating prospects.  If there are two or more prospects of the same tier, that positional value can be the deciding factor 

Of course, but WR is clearly a premium position that they value. We’ve used multiple first round picks on WR in recent years (Reagor, Smith, trade for Brown — before that you can go all the way back to Maclin and Mitchell, Reggie Brown was a high 2nd as well).

 

57 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Quick poll:

If Brock Bowers falls to 22 do you take him? I say no.

1. Don't usually like going TE in round 1

2. To me unless you're a generational TE(a la Gronk or Kelce) the difference between like the 6th best NFL TE and the 13th best NFL TE is pretty negligible. And just based on pure odds, Bowers isn't going to be generational. Most players aren't. Heard the same thing about Pitts and Vernon Davis. I've seen too many TEs not pan out with mega hype.

3. Eagles have a championship window and too many other needs.

4. Rightly or wrongly, the "there's only one football" issue is a thing. You bring in another guy who's going to demand targets. Him, Devonta, AJ, Goedert, Barkley, possibly a day 2 WR. That's a lot of egos to keep happy every week.

5. Probably will be some team willing to trade up for him.

6. And this is just a personal one. I'm sick of Howie's just drafting people from Georgia shtick. Enough, dude. We get it, you got burned for years passing on the SEC. Find a new slant.

No.

1)  I can’t think of a first round pick at TE who was worth it.

2) Bowers does not add anything as a receiver that an actual WR does not add.

3) Bowers is not a transcendent blocker which would give us mismatch advantages if teams went small to defend him in the passing game.

4) There are tons of good TE prospects every year who can be found in rounds 2-5.

36 minutes ago, paco said:

You may or may not have sparked a debate on if we use too many towels or not enough. 

Never mind towels; my dad once told us we should never be using more than 3 sheets of toilet paper.  I never shook hands with him again after that.

18 minutes ago, TEW said:

No.

1)  I can’t think of a first round pick at TE who was worth it.

2) Bowers does not add anything as a receiver that an actual WR does not add.

3) Bowers is not a transcendent blocker which would give us mismatch advantages if teams went small to defend him in the passing game.

4) There are tons of good TE prospects every year who can be found in rounds 2-5.

Did you watch him play. I’m running to the podium at 22 and would trade up to 17 or 18 to get him

Just now, uncphillyfan said:

Did you watch him play. I’m running to the podium at 22 and would trade up to 17 or 18 to get him

Yep. It shouldn't even be a question. He would be FAR AND AWAY the best player available, and while not a need we don't have depth at the position and Goedert is 29. For those saying they wouldn't take him at 22 I have to question whether or not they have ever seen him play.

18 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Yep. It shouldn't even be a question. He would be FAR AND AWAY the best player available, and while not a need we don't have depth at the position and Goedert is 29. For those saying they wouldn't take him at 22 I have to question whether or not they have ever seen him play.

I actually think Bowers will be on the short list of trade up targets

TE almost seems on par with RB in terms of value.

27 minutes ago, uncphillyfan said:

Did you watch him play. I’m running to the podium at 22 and would trade up to 17 or 18 to get him

Yeah — great college player for sure. Will probably be a good receiving TE in the NFL.

The fact remains that he is a 6’3” 240 pound TE with good but not freakish athleticism. 

This draft has down right sensational OT prospects, and I can't help but want one at 22.

With that said I don't want a first rounder to sit on the bench for at least 2 years.

Lane is still out there being the best RT in the game and I don't see him retiring anytime soon.

3 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

You can get all pro guards in other rounds though. It’s kinda like RBs just to a lesser extent, it’s a position you can get high level guys later. The purpose of the draft is to come away with the most quality players and the best overall draft. If you take an OG with your first pick that means you’re going to have to take OT, CB, EDGE, etc with your other picks. Much harder positions to nail outside the first round. I’d much rather take my chances at guard in day 2 or 3 and try to get OT/CB/edge in round 1.

Lane Johnson is making $18 Million the next 3 years.  Don't need a RT.  Do need a swing tackle.  Is it worth a 1st round pick for a swing tackle who might be a starting RT for one year in 2027?   Shouldn't Stoutland be able to coach up a more raw day 3 pick for swing tackle duties.  I like Tylan Grable for that. 

Steen was just drafted in the 3rd round last year.  Most people expect him to be the starting Right Guard.  But maybe he isn't good?   The Eagles lost their starting RG to Center,  the backup RG to free agency,  so,  they should be getting a player,  day 3 maybe, who played right guard in college.  Ideally, he's the bigger type of guard.   The Eagles have Hennessy if they want the smaller type like Jurgens,  they have Steen for the larger type and they could add practiced right guard if they want believed competence.

It seems right that the Eagles spend 2 day 3 picks on the OL, one raw hi ras swing tackle, one more polished right guard.  

EDGE - last year EDGE wasn't the problem,  whether it was DE or OLB.
DE was Sweat and Graham,  this year,  Sweat and Graham.  Graham, being older, was still good with a 80 PFF.  Sweat was ok, with a down 2nd half. 
OLB was Reddick and Nolan,  this year it's Bryce Huff and Nolan.  Presumably Nolan will get more snaps,  closer to 50/50.  

CB - last year the Eagles did not have a single good CB.  Slay was slightly above average, Ringo was close to average.,  the rest were below that,  most below 60 PFF.   If the idea is that a 1st round pick might be great right away,  the Eagles could really benefit by the addition of someone really great at CB.  I like Cooper DeJean,  but arguments can be make for others. 

4 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Aaron Rodgers played 4 snaps and was out for the season. The Eagles' WRs didn't get hurt because they played a few more snaps than the next guy. They got hurt because players get hurt in football. The Smith injury was very minor and he was just rested for the final meaningless game. Brown's was more severe from a hip-drop tackle. Stuff like that can happen on the first play as easily as on the last play. 

There's nothing wrong with having better depth. I just don't believe WR depth is the reason we lost in the playoffs. 

AJ Brown was the Eagles best WR last year,  an All Pro,  and he was out in the playoffs.

And you're saying the Eagles didn't lose because of that?

Why bother spending $20 Million a year on a guy who wouldn't have made a difference in the playoffs?

I'm not a big fan of paying WRs a ton of money,  but I'm also not a big fan of only having 2 WRs you like enough to play.