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5 minutes ago, NOTW said:

 

 

 

So Eagles told his agent they could seek trade if they want to. Reddick himself did not ask to seek a trade.

Need more on this. Is it because they dont plan to offer him an extension? Or is it so that they can compare offers?

 

42 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

 

There was an article attached to this quote a week or so ago and he hardly hints he wants to play with the Steelers. If I can find it, I'll post it but he more or less says he would have had fun playing along side a guy like Heyward. Nothing in the article makes me think he truly wants to play for the Steelers. 

1 hour ago, greendestiny27 said:

Howie prepping the fan base for a trade while trying to make Reddick look like the bad guy? 

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39 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

 

 

22 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Now the Cox story looks like made up BS. It's not even referencing an article, quote or anything. There's not even a name or "per anonymous sources" attached to it. 

Much ado about nothing. 

Cox was on Heyward's podcast while in Vegas. He asked Cox who he'd like to play with (meaning someone he can't currently play with not being on the same team) and he said "You." It was a friendly chat with respect for each other as players. 

https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/10/pittsburgh-steelers-cam-heyward-fletcher-cox-eagles-nfl/

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The Philadelphia Eagles defensive tackle was a guest with Cameron Heyward on the Feb. 8 episode of the "Not Just Football” podcast and was asked who he’d most like to play with in the NFL.

"You,” Cox replied.

Heyward, recently named the Walter Payton Man of the Year, is still highly regarded as one of the most dominant players at his position heading into his 13th season.

"That’s all love,” Cox said. "Just respect that you got for the game, respect that I have for the game. The way that you play the game, the way that I play the game, like we definitely could. That would’ve been nice.”

Heyward agreed: "We could make some things happen.”

 

 

Posters that try to "break news" like @Mike030270 should really research it before sharing and causing a bunch of overreaction.

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Need more on this. Is it because they dont plan to offer him an extension? Or is it so that they can compare offers?

If they planned to offer an extension, they likely wouldn't have told him to seek a trade.  

1 hour ago, GoEagles614 said:

We have to stop talking about these defensive players and their value after the disaster that was last season. Literally zero players looked good for the majority of the season on defense. I wouldn’t blame or devalue the individual, moreso whoever was coaching them and putting them in awful situations over and over

That's just not true.  Didn't you hear what Darius Slay had to say about his own play?   Dude was stellar.

If you want to understand Howie's moves this offseason, you have to look at Moore and Fangio. Howie is going to sign/draft/trade with their schemes in mind, they were hired to run their units, which means giving them the players they want.

What makes Fangio’s defense the best response to modern offenses? Its two-high (two deep safeties) structure limits explosive plays and forces offenses to stay patient and throw short. The front mechanics allow the defense to slow down the run with light boxes and commit more resources to coverage. Pre-snap, the defense is committed to showing the same Cover 4 shell for as long as possible so quarterbacks have to make reads after the snap. Even after the snap, it’s hard to draw a bead on what the coverage is because of how the defensive backs disperse from the top down.

To get away with playing two safeties deep and lining up light boxes, Fangio and his disciples have their defensive linemen play with a gap-and-half technique. When playing this technique, defensive linemen aren’t aggressively coming up the field as a single-gap team would and they aren’t just trying to stay square on offensive linemen and control two gaps like old-school, odd-front teams would do. Instead, they attack their primary gap with enough control so that they can "fall back” into their secondary gap. The objective isn’t to make a tackle but force the ball to "roll” outside, which gives defensive backs time to come up in run support from depth.

In nickel (five defensive backs) personnel, Fangio and his disciples can play their "Penny front,” with three interior defensive linemen and two outside linebackers on the line of scrimmage and one inside linebacker on the second level. Fangio didn’t use this front as much as other coaches in his tree. This type of system requires run-stuffing interior linemen. If the defense can slow down the run without committing more resources in the box, it can keep lighter bodies on the field and play them farther from the line of scrimmage.

Where the system is susceptible is against teams that run the ball from spread formations or quarterbacks who can be patient and execute consistently in the quick game.

https://theathletic.com/3311028/2022/05/24/vic-fangio-defense-analysis/

https://www.readoptional.com/p/the-book-of-fangio-part-i-the-philosophy

By playing two safeties on the back end, one defender is taken away from the run-support box. However, these safeties still are close enough to support the run defense as they do not line up as deep as safeties usually do in other schemes. This allows the safeties to immediately contribute if there is a handoff, but the safeties must also be athletic enough to recover from run reads, if there is a passing play.

Fangio’s defense uses a lot of Cover-4 coverage and zone reads, which means every player in the secondary has to train their eyes on their responsibilities when it comes to the receivers and their routes. In order to combat this, each defender must know when to make or break responsibility of their zone. It takes practice, it takes the defense playing together repeatedly, and it takes communication. Sometimes verbally, but mostly silently.

In Fangio’s system, linebackers typically set up closely behind the defensive linemen in a 4-3 under front (where the defensive tackle is lined up on the weak-side B-gap) in order to quickly combat inside handoffs and outside runs. This type of front uses 3-4 personnel, but slides the linemen to the weak side of the formation, while the strong-side linebacker drops down on the line of scrimmage. This defense calls for athletic outside linebackers. During passing situations, linebackers will give a similar look initially, but will drop into the open space behind them once the ball is snapped.

https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/news/miami-dolphins-defense-will-feature-new-roles-under-vic-fangio

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

He should have just come to the blog.  We would have helped him.  

3 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

If they planned to offer an extension, they likely wouldn't have told him to seek a trade.  

thats not always correct. Sometimes they want to see, or to have the player see what is the fair market value. They want to make sure they are on par with what other teams would pay. This has been done before, and they just did it with Slay last year.

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

He should have just come to the blog.  We would have helped him.  

The blog is probably why he needed therapy 

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

If they planned to offer an extension, they likely wouldn't have told him to seek a trade.  

One of two things:

1) They have no intention of signing him to a big extension so they’re letting him explore options for a trade

or

2) They talked numbers and they’re so far off that they’re letting him shop for a contract from a team so they can find out his market value. If the numbers don’t work for the Eagles and the mystery team is willing to compensate the Eagles fairly, he’s gone. 

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Best player available 

Unless that player is a LB, Safety, Punter, or Placekicker.   Expect the card to be turned in twice as fast if the BPA is an OL or DL.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

What if neither signs 

Then we are no worse off than just trading away Reddick.   Sweat was pretty terrible for most of the year.

1 hour ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

I still can't believe we lost in the f'n wildcard round to Baker Mayfield.   I'm still salty.

 

I could see us go DT again regardless of what happens with Fletch.  Howie loves D-lineman. 

Will it be a DE?  How about Chop Robinson?  I'm no draftnik, but that dude looks big, fast, and mean.

Where do these rumors come from?  I don't see a good reason to move on from Reddick.  

Contract status.

I wonder what kind of money Reddick is looking for.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

One of two things:

1) They have no intention of signing him to a big extension so they’re letting him explore options for a trade

or

2) They talked numbers and they’re so far off that they’re letting him shop for a contract from a team so they can find out his market value. If the numbers don’t work for the Eagles and the mystery team is willing to compensate the Eagles fairly, he’s gone. 

Door #2, Monty:

 

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24 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

My guess would be the "story" was probably just "Cox said something positive about Cam Heyward" and they shoehorned in that headline. 

Cox was on a podcast WITH Cam Heyward, it might have even been Cam Heyward's Podcast, about them doing great things together.  Cox didn't rule out the possibility of going to Pittsburgh, and might have actually suggested it was a real possibility.

8 minutes ago, NOTW said:

 

Much ado about nothing. 

Cox was on Heyward's podcast while in Vegas. He asked Cox who he'd like to play with (meaning someone he can't currently play with not being on the same team) and he said "You." It was a friendly chat with respect for each other as players. 

https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/10/pittsburgh-steelers-cam-heyward-fletcher-cox-eagles-nfl/

 

Posters that try to "break news" like @Mike030270 should really research it before sharing and causing a bunch of overreaction.

I'm not trying to "break news"

I share what I see being shared. It was being discussed before I posted the tweet. I'll keep sharing what I see being shared

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

One of two things:

1) They have no intention of signing him to a big extension so they’re letting him explore options for a trade

or

2) They talked numbers and they’re so far off that they’re letting him shop for a contract from a team so they can find out his market value. If the numbers don’t work for the Eagles and the mystery team is willing to compensate the Eagles fairly, he’s gone. 

I tend to think they want him to play out that last year of his contract, and they don’t want to get into a long-term extension. Due to his age and the amount of money he’s going to command. I think they would give him a small pay increase to smooth it over for a year. Similarly what the Cardinals did with Buddha Baker and giving him a little bit more money so that he was happy. to me,  I don’t see them paying Josh sweat and Hassan Reddick long term. It’s going to be one or the other. so, which ever one gets the contract then I am assuming the other one is gone.

Think the problem with Reddick (and maybe Sweat) is they're more 4-3 rush ends than 3-4 OLBs.

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'm not trying to "break news"

I share what I see being shared. It was being discussed before I posted the tweet. I'll keep sharing what I see being shared

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4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I tend to think they want him to play out that last year of his contract, and they don’t want to get into a long-term extension. Due to his age and the amount of money he’s going to command. I think they would give him a small pay increase to smooth it over for a year. Similarly what the Cardinals did with Buddha Baker and giving him a little bit more money so that he was happy. to me,  I don’t see them paying Josh sweat and Hassan Reddick long term. It’s going to be one or the other. so, which ever one gets the contract then I am assuming the other one is gone.

I think we should pay him just long enough and when he is washed up trade him to Tennessee as a thank you F you back sorta deal for Byard.

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