1 hour ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

And if we can get Hurts to play slot too, we can save a bunch of money there

tell me more

10 hours ago, RLC said:

This is a post for @eagle45

A wr who builds their game around contested catches is like a K that builds their game around making sure the ball clanks inside the uprights instead of outside.  

Great when it happens successfully, but let’s aim for a cleaner play.

8 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I think he has a knack for being around the ball. Maybe it's luck, maybe it's a skill, hard to say, but he does seem to always have a knack for making plays. And when you've gone years without having playmakers back there, I'll take it. Whether it's luck or skill, give me a guy who always seems to have a nose for the football.

And he does take bad angles at times, but I think you could probably say the same thing about a guy like McKinney. I'll put it this way. I don't think football ability is the reason McKinney will get paid way more than CJGJ. I think it's injury history and character concerns. In terms of football ability, I think it's not nearly as much of a difference as people think. Now, if we are comparing CJGJ to a guy like Winfield Jr... yeah, major difference there.

But if you can get CJGJ for 2 years 10 million and save 10+ million at safety and get 85% of the production, and use that money saved that you would've spent on McKinney at LB and maybe adding another edge... sign me up.

I think he's worth about 2 years 6 million. Unless you're paying him as a nickel.  Then he can have the Maddox contract we just ripped up. 

A lot of teams are going to need Ss.  Yes, there are a lot of Ss on the market but they came from teams playing them.   Not an awesome draft class at S either.  Fact of the matter is the two positions of most need for the Eagles on D are the positions that don’t have a lot of second contract or draft choices available, off ball LB and S.   Howie may need to chamge his valuation on those positions. 

JJ gonna go Top 5

 

Brock Huard talked JJ McCarthy with Colin Cowherd today. This is quite the praise…

"Which is the single most intriguing prospect of all of those? I think between now and the NFL Draft, it's going to be JJ McCarthy.

I know my buddy Joel Klatt sits next to you, he's anamored with him. I chatted with Chris Petersen on my radio show this morning up in Seattle, he's enamored with him. I know that I'm enamored with him. I know that when we had Michigan-Nebraska this year and we sat in the production meeting with JJ McCarthy and he left the room, and [the producer] Bo looked at me and Benetti looked at me and Allison looked at me and Darren the director looked at me and went, "Wow. That dude is just... How do you not just love that guy and want to play for that guy and with that guy?" I mean he was magnetic.

Colin Cowherd then said he was told by two people that JJ McCarthy was "unbelievable at the Combine on the whiteboard" when meeting  with teams.

2 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

Bradberry has no base salary,  and guaranteed 9 million option bonus.

guaranteed.  He can be a backup if he isn't the best one out there.

He shouldn't be the starter but the Eagles had a lot of CBs last year who were worse than Bradberry.   For the NFL,  Bradberry was below average.  For the Eagles,  Bradberry was average or even above. 

Next year,  Bradberry has a $16M option bonus which is not guaranteed.  I don't think he gets that. 

The Eagles could trade Bradberry right now, and the new team would have to pay that guaranteed $9M.  The Eagles would have to put the old bonuses on the cap immediately.

Bradbury is the single worst DB on the team. He allows for no versatility in play calling and can only play off zone with his back to the sideline. Anything else and he’s BBQ chicken. He can’t run deep, he can’t travel across the field, he can’t press, I’d rather throw young guys to fire than have to watch him hamstring our defense. 

1 hour ago, DaEagles4Life said:

JJ gonna go Top 5

 

Brock Huard talked JJ McCarthy with Colin Cowherd today. This is quite the praise…

"Which is the single most intriguing prospect of all of those? I think between now and the NFL Draft, it's going to be JJ McCarthy.

I know my buddy Joel Klatt sits next to you, he's anamored with him. I chatted with Chris Petersen on my radio show this morning up in Seattle, he's enamored with him. I know that I'm enamored with him. I know that when we had Michigan-Nebraska this year and we sat in the production meeting with JJ McCarthy and he left the room, and [the producer] Bo looked at me and Benetti looked at me and Allison looked at me and Darren the director looked at me and went, "Wow. That dude is just... How do you not just love that guy and want to play for that guy and with that guy?" I mean he was magnetic.

Colin Cowherd then said he was told by two people that JJ McCarthy was "unbelievable at the Combine on the whiteboard" when meeting  with teams.

Future New England Patriot

4 hours ago, GoEagles614 said:

Bradbury is the single worst DB on the team. He allows for no versatility in play calling and can only play off zone with his back to the sideline. Anything else and he’s BBQ chicken. He can’t run deep, he can’t travel across the field, he can’t press, I’d rather throw young guys to fire than have to watch him hamstring our defense. 

the Eagles had a lot of bad/terrible dbs last year.   A lot of 50s, even a lot of 40s.

the Eagles, unless they can get him traded, quickly, have to pay him an option bonus of 9 million for this year.  If the money must be spend,  you might as well have him on the roster.  Maybe the roster is full of terrible cbs this year.  The Eagles should take a cb with the 1st pick.  Add him to the roster,  play him,  and you should have a 70+ PFF corner on the roster, playing, right?  They don't have one now. 

I'm going to go with PFF generally on the weighting,  Bradberry wasn't so bad that the Eagles have to single him out for removal.  I would agree that it would be great to trade Bradberry for anything in order to save having to pay 9 Mil this year.  But if you have to pay it you might as well keep him as a reserve.

1 hour ago, Random Reglar said:

the Eagles had a lot of bad/terrible dbs last year.   A lot of 50s, even a lot of 40s.

the Eagles, unless they can get him traded, quickly, have to pay him an option bonus of 9 million for this year.  If the money must be spend,  you might as well have him on the roster.  Maybe the roster is full of terrible cbs this year.  The Eagles should take a cb with the 1st pick.  Add him to the roster,  play him,  and you should have a 70+ PFF corner on the roster, playing, right?  They don't have one now. 

I'm going to go with PFF generally on the weighting,  Bradberry wasn't so bad that the Eagles have to single him out for removal.  I would agree that it would be great to trade Bradberry for anything in order to save having to pay 9 Mil this year.  But if you have to pay it you might as well keep him as a reserve.

He was that bad though, to say he wasn't is revisionism, he was flat awful all year and by year end it was genuinely a wash between him and rookie project guys with no NFL experience, if we're cutting Byard for looking lousy as Patricia tried to install a new scheme late season, then Bradberry has to be gone because he sucked ass all year, he's lost a yard, his positioning and angles were amateurish and he couldn't tackle. The difference from 2022 to 2023 was like we'd been duped into playing his crap twin.

8 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Jalen Mills

Unpopular opinion, but I could live with Mills on a short deal along with one of the big name safeties as well.

Would be much improved

6 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said:

JJ gonna go Top 5

 

 I know that when we had Michigan-Nebraska this year and we sat in the production meeting with JJ McCarthy and he left the room, and [the producer] Bo looked at me and Benetti looked at me and Allison looked at me and Darren the director looked at me and went, "Wow. That dude is just... How do you not just love that guy and want to play for that guy and with that guy?" I mean he was magnetic.

 

 

I mean this bit, this is just nonsense, no group of heterosexual men have ever sat around and heard one of the group say something this gay about a sportsman and not laughed their asses off about it for the next 10 years.

"Hey Darren, remember that time when you spoke about JJ McCarthy like a 1950's high school girl?"

McCarthy might make it to New York at 6, but I think the Bronco's at 12 are more likely and honestly I could see him sliding to day 2 easily.

1 hour ago, Swoop said:

Unpopular opinion, but I could live with Mills on a short deal along with one of the big name safeties as well.

Would be much improved

Just get 6 or so cheap DBs and let them duke it out for S/slot. 1-2 gotta be halfway decent and problem solved. Theres a ton of available safeties right now

I already forgot how much better Wentz was than Hurts. 

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2 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

I mean this bit, this is just nonsense, no group of heterosexual men have ever sat around and heard one of the group say something this gay about a sportsman and not laughed their asses off about it for the next 10 years.

"Hey Darren, remember that time when you spoke about JJ McCarthy like a 1950's high school girl?"

McCarthy might make it to New York at 6, but I think the Bronco's at 12 are more likely and honestly I could see him sliding to day 2 easily.

He ain't sliding to day 2, that is a bad take. Hell, teams want those 5 year options in QBs more than other positions. 

1 hour ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Just get 6 or so cheap DBs and let them duke it out for S/slot. 1-2 gotta be halfway decent and problem solved. Theres a ton of available safeties right now

 I think you are being facetious but just in case  you aren't this is what we have been doing with failure the result.

8 hours ago, GoEagles614 said:

Bradbury is the single worst DB on the team. He allows for no versatility in play calling and can only play off zone with his back to the sideline. Anything else and he’s BBQ chicken. He can’t run deep, he can’t travel across the field, he can’t press, I’d rather throw young guys to fire than have to watch him hamstring our defense. 

🤔.  That's a close one.    Fortunately, Byard has been cut, so he's out of the running.   But, it would be hard to say that Evans is 'better'.  He couldn't even get on the field at all last year.   Does his absence automatically make him 'better'?   I'd argue the opposite, because he wasn't even available at all.    But, Bradberry is bad and needs to go join Byard.   The one thing I like about Bradberry is his attitude.  He didn't point the finger elsewhere.  He's always been a stand up guy while he's been here and I will miss that about him.   His opposite number seemed to pretend that he played no part in the defense's issues last year.   Very self-congratulatory.  Unflattering and frankly, distasteful.   I'd like to see both go, but Howie's contract extension makes that impossible.

 

I don't know that the young guys are better, but they are definitely cheaper... and there's no long term commitment to any of them.  Find one that can play... and hope to draft another one high this year.

1 hour ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Just get 6 or so cheap DBs and let them duke it out for S/slot. 1-2 gotta be halfway decent and problem solved. Theres a ton of available safeties right now

How did that work at LB last year?

14 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Because if they didn't cut him... they'd be on the hook for the $6.8M salary this year.   (Of course, that makes the contract he got look even worse.)

 

So, the thinking is basically, if they bring him back at any number lower than the $6.8M salary... there is 'savings'.  Of course, the reality is that Howie never intended to pay him that as a salary.  The plan was always to either extend him and kick it down the road more this offseason with some sort of extension... or cut him one way or the other this year.  Either pre-June 1, or post-June 1.   Personally, I'd rather just move on from Mr. Glass.  Frankly, he's not all that great even when he is on the field.

Ok, coming back to this now that I am not on Ellie duty.....

 

Yes, you are correct.  What is\was throwing me off is:  its a net save on the cap of $5.5m but split as 0.5m this year and 5m next year

 

Now I did read that as a result of the cut, which would be incorrect.  But from a perception of where the money would be saved, yes, I then agree.   A lot easier to do this at my desk on my 33" monitor vs my phone with a fussy 2 year old  

13 hours ago, kiwieagle said:

If he plays out the year and we dont resign him next year. His cap numbers are $9.7m this year and $5.2m next year (being the prorated signing bonuses all accelerated into a single year), so 14.9m in total. By cutting him its only a hit of $7.8m (being the $5.2m referred earlier which gets moved from next years cap to this years cap + pro-rated signing bonus for this year) to this years cap and nothing next year. So net savings are about $7.1m which is the $1.9m this year plus the $5.2m to the cap next year. 

Thank you.  And when I re-read your post I see where my misunderstanding was and I agree.

 

I think part of my problem is I have been conditioned to not expect Howie to roll up dead cap and take the hit now    (yeah, yeah, he will make a "cap move" and unstructure someone to create space sometime in September)

12 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Imagine being a Bills fan and this is the cherry on top of all the other moves today 

 

 

And since White is going to be a post June 1st cut, they still have about 10 million they need to clear..... and then some if they want to sign anyone, including draft picks.  Or maybe they just clear 10 million and become the first team to trade all current picks for future picks  

12 hours ago, Dwide Schrude said:

If 

If I’m reading it correctly Eagles are set to have 73 mil in cap space next year

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/cap/2025/

 

12 hours ago, Dwide Schrude said:

Nevermind I think I read it wrong 

Also only 43 players under contract.  The rookie class will help bump that up though.

Who knows about DT free agent Justin Jones, 27 years old. Jones matched fletcher cox production with 5 sacks and 17 QB hits playing for the sucky bears.

 

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

33 tackles last season. Nice.

8 hours ago, GoEagles614 said:

Bradbury is the single worst DB on the team. He allows for no versatility in play calling and can only play off zone with his back to the sideline. Anything else and he’s BBQ chicken. He can’t run deep, he can’t travel across the field, he can’t press, I’d rather throw young guys to fire than have to watch him hamstring our defense. 

Year	Age	Base Salary	Prorated Bonus		Workout Bonus	Other Bonus		Guaranteed Salary		Cap Number	Cap %		Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension
			Signing	Option
Total		$3,630,000	$7,865,000	$24,235,000	$450,000	$300,000		$10,015,000		$36,180,000
2023	30	$1,165,000	$1,597,000	$0	$150,000	$300,000		$1,165,000		$3,062,000	1.3%
2024 📝	31	$1,210,000	$1,567,000	$1,528,000	$150,000	$0		$8,850,000		$4,305,000	1.7%		$15,118,000	($10,813,000)
2025 📝	32	$1,255,000	$1,567,000	$4,847,000	$150,000	$0		$0		$7,819,000	3.0%		$4,701,000	$3,118,000
2026 📝	33	Void	$1,567,000	$4,847,000	Void	Void		Void		$20,994,000	7.4%		$3,134,000	$17,860,000
2027	34	Void	$1,567,000	$4,847,000	Void	Void		Void		$0	0.0%		$1,567,000	($1,567,000)
2028	35	Void	$0	$4,847,000	Void	Void		Void		$0	--		$0	$0
2029	36	Void	$0	$3,319,000	Void	Void		Void		$0	--		$0	$0

 

Making Bradberry a post June 1st cut lowers the dead hit to $10 million and makes the 2024 impact a net loss of $6 million.  (2024 and 2025 options trigger 9/1)

 

If Howie is switching gears and taking medicine now, this would be a good time to do it.