2 minutes ago, hputenis said:

I hope Jerry lives until he's 120 and never sells the team.  I love having a division with some of the worst owners in sports.  Already lost Snyder.  Can't lose another.

I don’t see Jerry selling them. I see him passing it down to his son. I think some of the financial stuff is more due to circumstance. Not sure he wants to give Dak an extension in the midst of an investigation. That’s a bad PR look even if it turns out Dak is correct that the woman is just exploiting him. 

30 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

How many Howie's? I know most won't love DT but think he provides some serious upside and too good to pass up.  Like Washington in the slot a nice big prospect for Stout and some solid LB's for depth.

9 out of 10 Howies, going for a DT in the 1st round and BYU player in the 2nd is an all-time Howie draft.  -1 Howie for drafting a LB in the 2nd round  

17 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

New England at 3 is ideal trade partner if they are willing to move back to 11 and stockpile picks. They apparently are willing to trade out of 3 if Daniels isn’t there. However been some rumors on twitter they might trade for fields and then just draft Marvin Harrison jr. Which likely makes the cardinals at 4 a trade partner. 

Absolute malpractice for any of those top 3 teams to trade out, but stupid teams will be stupid teams.  I wouldn't put it past NE -- I just realized they haven't even given anyone a General Manager title there...  

Justin Fields is hot garbage, and Drake Maye is a solid QB prospect.  

6 minutes ago, hputenis said:

I hope Jerry lives until he's 120 and never sells the team.  I love having a division with some of the worst owners in sports.  Already lost Snyder.  Can't lose another.

Lucky for us, Washington's new owner is almost as bad.  

5 minutes ago, judunno said:

I'm absolutely certain CMC was not considered a 3rd or 4th round pick. I'm absolutely certain he was considered a minimum bottom of the 1st round at the least. That's why the Eagles were hopeful to possibly grab him.

McCaffrey was never considered a 3rd or 4th round pick. You are correct on that. It also was not implied here, ever. 

He wasnt always a sure 1st rounder though. @NCiggles did the work of going back through previous mock drafts and rankings to show how his stock skyrocketed, closer to the draft. 

15 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Carton becoming the new skip!!!

 

That dude is 100% on amphetamines 

18 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

This doesn't make me feel better about White.  

Bad words in there.   "Needs motivation."     
"Lousy tackler."   
"Game declined..."  💀

Yeah... that's pretty much what I thought before free agency began... and seeing a beat down there confirm.  That's discouraging.  

 

Now, we can try to convince ourselves that our LB situation can't be worse than last year with White, and maybe that's true.  But, the hope was to see improvement, not just holding serve with the LB play.   We can also try to convince ourselves that the team can find a young LB in the draft who can be a difference maker and sure up the middle of the field.   Of course, there's not a ton of support for that being realistic.   And we can convince ourselves that in this organization, White will feel motivated to put it all out there and use his athleticism to fix what he's struggled at in the past.   Then again, if this organization was so great at motivating folks, we wouldn't have seen the meltdown that we saw last year.  Just dysfunction at every level on the defense.   Maybe that's due to the change from Desai to Patricia, but it sure looked like a lot of business decisions were made by the Eagles' defenders, especially in the last 6 or 7 games.

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Absolute malpractice for any of those top 3 teams to trade out, but stupid teams will be stupid teams.  I wouldn't put it past NE -- I just realized they haven't even given anyone a General Manager title there...  

Justin Fields is hot garbage, and Drake Maye is a solid QB prospect.  

If New England doesn’t love Maye or McCarthy then they probably should trade out. Might ultimately backfire on them as Maye might be a franchise Qb. But i don’t see them taking a Qb just cause they need a QB. Kind of see them trying to pull off something like what Chicago did last year with Carolina. Probably gonna get 11, 23 and 2025 first rounder if they trade back with Minnesota. If I’m New England I’d probably also try to sweeten the deal and ask for Addison. 

38 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

First step to move up for a QB. 

Only way I'm doing that deal is if a 2025 1 is on the table. Wonder why HOU thought it couldn't do better.

On 3/13/2024 at 3:47 PM, Diehardfan said:

What holes are you speaking of? LB? S? CB? DT? OG/OT? That's not a ton of holes considering 3 picks in the top two rounds. DL/OL/CB should be addressed early. That only leaves safety and LB and at this point. Maybe it is too late with who has signed but they could have addressed more, but Howie is being stubborn.

 

he's not stubborn, it's called cap space, and you have to keep your own players too.

Think the approach to ILB is White, Dean and VanSumeren provide upside, then they'll bring in a veteran as an insurance policy and draft a LB. And look at Baun at ILB in camp.

They're definitely faster and more athletic, whether that translates to production remains to be seen. But after Cunningham and Leonard, at least they can run.

Problem at WR is with Brown and Smith and Goedert hogging the throws, and Barkley likely to get a major role in the passing offense, what talented WR would want to sign here to be #3? This might be where you draft slot WRs in the middle rounds and bring in UDFAs (a lot of top slot WRs have been UDFAs or late round picks, average RAS but good hands and routes and short area quickness).

Brown getting hurt complicated safety, what can you expect from him this season?

 

 

11 minutes ago, hputenis said:

I hope Jerry lives until he's 120 and never sells the team.  I love having a division with some of the worst owners in sports.  Already lost Snyder.  Can't lose another.

Unfortunately for DAL fans Jerrah is too proud to sell his pet project...it is his family legacy at this point. Carton does get it right though, the fans have had enough.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

This doesn't make me feel better about White.  

Bad words in there.   "Needs motivation."     
"Lousy tackler."   
"Game declined..."  💀

Yeah... that's pretty much what I thought before free agency began... and seeing a beat down there confirm.  That's discouraging.  

 

Now, we can try to convince ourselves that our LB situation can't be worse than last year with White, and maybe that's true.  But, the hope was to see improvement, not just holding serve with the LB play.   We can also try to convince ourselves that the team can find a young LB in the draft who can be a difference maker and sure up the middle of the field.   Of course, there's not a ton of support for that being realistic.   And we can convince ourselves that in this organization, White will feel motivated to put it all out there and use his athleticism to fix what he's struggled at in the past.   Then again, if this organization was so great at motivating folks, we wouldn't have seen the meltdown that we saw last year.  Just dysfunction at every level on the defense.   Maybe that's due to the change from Desai to Patricia, but it sure looked like a lot of business decisions were made by the Eagles' defenders, especially in the last 6 or 7 games.

Said yesterday this has a lot of Ernie sims to it. A young athletic linebacker who was drafted super high so you hope you can get him on track and untap his potential. but like sims, the more and more years past the more he wound up looking like a bust. 

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

McCaffrey was never considered a 3rd or 4th round pick. You are correct on that. It also was not implied here, ever. 

He wasnt always a sure 1st rounder though. @NCiggles did the work of going back through previous mock drafts and rankings to show how his stock skyrocketed, closer to the draft. 

You're talking mocks. I'm talking the reality of what we learned after the draft about how many NFL teams had a first round grade on CMC (including the Eagles who were trying to trade up for him with Carolina in the top 10). I CAN GUARANTEE... No NFL team will have Will Shipley as a 1st round prospect on their board.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Said yesterday this has a lot of Ernie sims to it. A young athletic linebacker who was drafted super high so you hope you can get him on track and untap his potential. but like sims, the more and more years past the more he wound up looking like a bust. 

Lets just hope he doesn't take out his own teammates 

2 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Only way I'm doing that deal is if a 2025 1 is on the table. Wonder why HOU thought it couldn't do better.

Guessing Minnesota wanted to keep that 1st in 2025 in order to move up to 3-4 area. 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Lets just hope he doesn't take out his own teammates 

Sharks in the water 

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

McCaffrey was never considered a 3rd or 4th round pick. You are correct on that. It also was not implied here, ever. 

He wasnt always a sure 1st rounder though. @NCiggles did the work of going back through previous mock drafts and rankings to show how his stock skyrocketed, closer to the draft. 

Not really specific to draft stock, and I don't like seeing anyone get injured, but McCaffery is a long term injury waiting to happen.  He missed a big chunk of 2020 and 2021 because of two years of overuse, and the Niners have overused him just as CAR did.  329 touches in 2022 and 339 touches in 2023.  

Boz Scaggs might as well have wrote this great song about him:

 

 

14 minutes ago, judunno said:

I understand that he's comparing a 1st RD prospect in CMC to a 3rd or 4th rd prospect in Will Shipley who has had no where near the success that CMC had.

So you don't understand at all what he was saying. Got it.

7 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Think the approach to ILB is White, Dean and VanSumeren provide upside, then they'll bring in a veteran as an insurance policy and draft a LB. And look at Baun at ILB in camp.

They're definitely faster and more athletic, whether that translates to production remains to be seen. But after Cunningham and Leonard, at least they can run.

Problem at WR is with Brown and Smith and Goedert hogging the throws, and Barkley likely to get a major role in the passing offense, what talented WR would want to sign here to be #3? This might be where you draft slot WRs in the middle rounds and bring in UDFAs (a lot of top slot WRs have been UDFAs or late round picks, average RAS but good hands and routes and short area quickness).

Brown getting hurt complicated safety, what can you expect from him this season?

 

 

With Brown getting hurt late in the season, it still makes sense to go after Justin Simmons. Justin Simmons is 31 years old, so any contract he’s getting is probably only a two year deal. With brown he’s likely not returning until midway through the year. He had his ACL at the end of last year. He’s probably not his full self until 2025. Add on CJGJ doesn’t exactly stay healthy either. He’s missed a ton of time over the past couple years. Simmons gives you a veteran who’s still playing at a high level. Allows you to use CJGJ in the slot more, use 3 safeties and allows you to bring brown back slowly in 2024. 

This is quietly a year for the Vikes where the HC and GM need to move forward. The Cousins band aid is no more and they have a prime WR looking to run his contract down and have the option of moving on if things stay as they are.  Trading up for a QB makes a ton of sense, as does the Texans moving down a little. 

 

10 hours ago, Saltpeter said:

No one signed is a clear band-aid. White probably is, but he's still young. Hennessy and Parker are depth so who cares. Baun is a backup for Reddick/Smith; I don't know where people are getting off-ball LB from.

Barkley, Huff, and CJGJ are multi year guys.

I have mixed feelings on the haul. If they get a good, healthy version of Barkley, what they think Bryce Huff is, and 2022 CJGJ, it'll be a worthwhile group. I'd rather have splurged on McKinney or Queen, but I'm in the minority.

White just signed for one year.  Hennessy is a one year back up bandaid.  Parker is a camp body.  Baun, if he sticks, is on a one year deal.  Albert O, one year.  Okwara, one year. 

 So back up C is a need next year unless Poe develops.  Back up OLB is a need next year (right now, Reddick’s deal expires next year as does Patrick Johnson’s).  ILB becomes a need next year.  Hence my bandaid and draft for the future comments.  

Watch the Baun presser.  He referred to his experience off ball, said he would on ball, off ball, wherever they wanted.  Can’t believe he would highlight the off ball if there hadn’t been some off ball conversations with the Eagles.  

McKinney’s missed tackles makes his contract overvalued.  About this time last year there was speculation the Ravens might cut Queen loose.  Hilarious that White is valued less than Queen on here.   I am happy Howie didn’t bite on those.  

7 minutes ago, judunno said:

You're talking mocks. I'm talking the reality of what we learned after the draft about how many NFL teams had a first round grade on CMC (including the Eagles who were trying to trade up for him with Carolina in the top 10). I CAN GUARANTEE... No NFL team will have Will Shipley as a 1st round prospect on their board.

and why does that matter at all in relation to what I said initially? You still arent getting it....